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EDIT: answered at 1AM, I've used Oxymetholone (drol) and never really checked but then again it may not have been as much as primo if doc's didn't notice.I don't use them can't comment.
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EDIT: answered at 1AM, I've used Oxymetholone (drol) and never really checked but then again it may not have been as much as primo if doc's didn't notice.I don't use them can't comment.
250 - 750 per day is the standard doses . I was at the end of my rope regarding hemoglobin, hematocrit and RBC being out of range so I went full tilt. I honestly did not think it would work like it did. After my iron rebounds I’m going to try 500.Is that the common protocol? Or can someone get a few points off with 500-700mg a day?
Is it possible that your iron/ferritin was depleted from prior blood donations? I've done as often as every 6 weeks with a script from my Dr and it left my iron tanked. It took quite awhile to get it back into range, even with a healthy diet with high iron in it. That's the catch-22 with blood donations on gear. You have to donate frequently to keep the Hemoglobin in check, but that frequency leaves many people with iron deficiency. The grapefruit would be a wonderful workaround, but if it also lowers iron by some mechanism, we wind up with the same issues that blood donation causes.250 - 750 per day is the standard doses . I was at the end of my rope regarding hemoglobin, hematocrit and RBC being out of range so I went full tilt. I honestly did not think it would work like it did. After my iron rebounds I’m going to try 500.
I would be grateful if you show the before and after results. Thanks!Interesting read and data. I’ve heard this a few times before, but honestly never really put any stock into it. I’m getting my bloods done this week and I’ll start implementing 500mg of GSE daily and see how it affects things over the next few months before my next bloodwork.
I got new data.Is the second graph showing a percentage change or change in points?
Was the dosage still 1500mg/day of GSE?I got new data.
HCTView attachment 277282
The man ate grapefruits from January 14 to January 29.
His HCT dropped by 5.8 points in 2 weeks.
So I added a red dot to the 2w graph. Had to stretch the boundaries a lot.
View attachment 277281
After this, the grapefruit was canceled and the HCT increased slightly.
Incredible result. More like an exception.
No bro, I'm still talking about grapefruit )) One per day.Was the dosage still 1500mg/day of GSE?
Did you split it or took it in one administration?
Thank you for sharing the info.
This is a great thread for harm reduction.
Ok mate, i also tried a grapefruit per day but it had no effect on me,No bro, I'm still talking about grapefruit )) One per day.
You've been a new member for 20 years?Is it possible that your iron/ferritin was depleted from prior blood donations? I've done as often as every 6 weeks with a script from my Dr and it left my iron tanked. It took quite awhile to get it back into range, even with a healthy diet with high iron in it. That's the catch-22 with blood donations on gear. You have to donate frequently to keep the Hemoglobin in check, but that frequency leaves many people with iron deficiency. The grapefruit would be a wonderful workaround, but if it also lowers iron by some mechanism, we wind up with the same issues that blood donation causes.
Cool experiments and graph.I got new data.
HCTView attachment 277282
The man ate grapefruits from January 14 to January 29.
His HCT dropped by 5.8 points in 2 weeks.
So I added a red dot to the 2w graph. Had to stretch the boundaries a lot.
View attachment 277281
After this, the grapefruit was canceled and the HCT increased slightly.
Incredible result. More like an exception.
It doesn't work with antiaggregants like aspirin...Ok mate, i also tried a grapefruit per day but it had no effect on me
This is why we need a group and control in dynamics.RSD/method precision on hematocrit can be 2%. Note my experiment.
Thanks! Glad to see you here!Cool experiments and graph.
I lobbied for " Super Sexy Member " but alas, I was denied.You've been a new member for 20 years?
That's got to be some kind of a record, right?
At this point it's actually cooler to stay a new member with the 20 year badge lolI lobbied for " Super Sexy Member " but alas, I was denied.
I honestly don't know why it still lists me as a new member. I did do a bit of the sourcing many years back. I might have been changed and then changed back when I retired. I dunno.
Nope. Do you have a link?have you checked out posts by Dante Trudell?