Gs anyone actually gotten busted with shipments to their house?

[Sampei]

Well, it is you, all 250 pounds of muscle, sitting there in an ill fitting suit looking ridiculous to a jury.

I wonder if they will believe you ordered the steroids?

Come on man you kidding me? They need proof that you ordered those steroids! Or you could send anyone that has muscle to jail, just order few kgs of raws and send it to his/her house. Makes no sense.

So I buy 1kg of fentanyl and send it to your house and you are unluckly a skinny mofo that looks like a drug user and you are gonna be then convicted and found guilty? Without proof? I don't believe it

 

[malfeasance]

I wish the criminal justice system worked like we all want to believe it does.

Proof, and all of that.

If you want to watch how far prosecutors will go to pervert the truth in an attempt to get a conviction, go on YouTube and invest two weeks in watching the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. It will be an education that is well worth the time you invest.

 

[Terra]

I wish the criminal justice system worked like we all want to believe it does.

Proof, and all of that.

If you want to watch how far prosecutors will go to pervert the truth in an attempt to get a conviction, go on YouTube and invest two weeks in watching the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. It will be an education that is well worth the time you invest.

I'm not sure I would compare that to a steroid case.

 

[Country Club Hero]

This might be a dumb question, but how do you avoid trouble? (Besides just being natty obviously)

Research on here for a good, trustworthy source. Use an encrypted email and don’t order raws or tons of vials at a time. I feel it’s safe to order enough gears for you and a buddy to do a nice little blast but I don’t recommend ordering enough to supply your whole posse.

 

[malfeasance]

I'm not sure I would compare that to a steroid case.

You think prosecutors all of a sudden get honest and don't attempt to pervert justice when it comes to a steroid case, even though you can watch them do it in other cases? Why? What is so special about a steroid case that introduces integrity where none existed before?

Their goal is to get convictions, and they do what they have to do to secure a conviction, even if that means misrepresenting things.

Maybe you think your local prosecutors are different than those guys up in Wisconsin, but you would probably find out differently if you found yourself arrested.

Or do you think Melissa Bumstead's case is going to be dismissed? After all, they can't prove @Sampei didn't mail it to her to frame her, right?

 

[Terra]

You think prosecutors all of a sudden get honest and don't attempt to pervert justice when it comes to a steroid case, even though you can watch them do it in other cases? Why? What is so special about a steroid case that introduces integrity where none existed before?

Their goal is to get convictions, and they do what they have to do to secure a conviction, even if that means misrepresenting things.

Maybe you think your local prosecutors are different than those guys up in Wisconsin, but you would probably find out differently if you found yourself arrested.

Or do you think Melissa Bumstead's case is going to be dismissed? After all, they can't prove @Sampei didn't mail it to her to frame her, right?

There is not much motivation for a prosecutor to go full force against some little guy who ordered steroids off the internet.

You don't know the details about Bumstead. She may have made a confession, many do first run in with the law. Most people end up in jail because a friend ratted on them.

Where I live, if you have a good attorney, you have to do a pretty serious crime, or a crime that receives a lot of publicity to worry about it, or pissed off the wrong person.

Some things I worry about, some things I don't. This is one I don't worry about. It's about on the same level as my concern for jay walking

 

[malfeasance]

There is not much motivation for a prosecutor to go full force against some little guy who ordered steroids off the internet.

You don't know the details about Bumstead. She may have made a confession, many do first run in with the law. Most people end up in jail because a friend ratted on them.

Where I live, if you have a good attorney, you have to do a pretty serious crime, or a crime that receives a lot of publicity to worry about it, or pissed off the wrong person.

Some things I worry about, some things I don't. This is one I don't worry about. It's about on the same level as my concern for jay walking

Jay walking is not a felony conviction in any state.

Your analogy is just silly.

Felony convictions have real consequences for those who do not already have one.

 

[1tank1]

Recent USA judgement.

Ringleader and Members of Multi-State Anabolic Steroid Trafficking Network Sentenced

Today, a Richmond man was the sixth and final defendant to be sentenced for his role in a multi-state anabolic steroid conspiracy that operated across the country.

www.justice.gov

 

[malfeasance]

Recent USA judgement.

Ringleader and Members of Multi-State Anabolic Steroid Trafficking Network Sentenced

Today, a Richmond man was the sixth and final defendant to be sentenced for his role in a multi-state anabolic steroid conspiracy that operated across the country.

www.justice.gov

Well, those are dealers, and that was posted in the thread about them here:

The GoldLine Busted

Feds to seek 10 years for, $6.5 million from North Attleboro steroid ring mastermind NORTH ATTLEBORO — Federal prosecutors are seeking a 121-month prison term and $6.5 million from a local man who led a multi-million dollar nationwide steroid distribution ring. David M. Esser, 48, is scheduled...

thinksteroids.com

 

[1tank1]

Well, those are dealers, and that was posted in the thread about them here:

The GoldLine Busted

Feds to seek 10 years for, $6.5 million from North Attleboro steroid ring mastermind NORTH ATTLEBORO — Federal prosecutors are seeking a 121-month prison term and $6.5 million from a local man who led a multi-million dollar nationwide steroid distribution ring. David M. Esser, 48, is scheduled...

thinksteroids.com

Fair enough. It was just a report I found a few days ago. Didn't realise it had already been a topic here.

No big deal bro

 

[malfeasance]

The other thread is worth reading if you are interested in that sort of thing.

 

[1tank1]

The other thread is worth reading if you are interested in that sort of thing.

Cheers for the link bro. I'll read it.
I'm not really that bothered about drug busts etc but charges/fines for buying/importing/selling gear hold some interest for me.

 

[Dondajuan417]

So say I have had previous run in’s with certain individuals in the past. Not so nice letters and phone calls very stressful times. It wasn’t anything to do with gear, but it definitely ruffled some alphabet feathers. Then a month or 2 later the Corona 500 begins. It’s now been 2 years and 1 month of nothing. Silence! Peace! Other than this disgusting ass virus that has me doing cardio with an N95 mask on! No more dumb ass phone calls baiting me to tell on myself. No more letters asking me to claim any prizes! Maybe my guardian agent see’s this maybe not. Either way I’m not getting any younger. My packages are no longer re taped when they arrive. My overnights no longer take 1 month to arrive. Seems to me I wasn’t the evil person they were claiming me to be! Or maybe I post this and get picked up tomorrow by a few one time collegiate athletes who decided being a fed was a better way to serve their country. I already know the answer but maybe I need it re iterated for the 200 time. Think they will catch whatever I’m getting pitched?

 

[hometeam]

I've been busted. Customs saw a whole cycle worth of stuff in the mail and figured I was a dealer. Because if you have 3 months worth of personal use marijuana or cocaine in your possession you'd probably be dealing. So you get the controlled delivery... it was arriving real late for obvious reasons they were setting up a bust so I had cleaned up the house just in case. But they deliver first thing in the morning when you aren't thinking straight so I accepted it when things were not right (was obviously not the postman delivering) and I shouldn't have.

So they arrested me, "tossed up" my place, sent me to jail overnight until an arraignment could be arranged. All the neighbors saw me in handcuffs. Charged with felony drugs possession and felony intent to distribute which also was in the local newspaper. They didn't have much of a case (I never opened the package and it was addressed to someone else, a girl, in my home) so they roomed me with a jailhouse snitch who asked me all kinds of incriminating questions. They then investigated me, talked to everyone in my life (girlfriend, boss at work, friends etc) and came to the conclusion I wasn't a dealer.

They made a couple plea offers but I declined. My lawyer and I had found a part in their warrant where they lied, which will get the case dismissed almost every time if you can prove it. You can't get arrested and charged (even in small part) over a lie. And later I got it expunged, over the objection of the county prosecutor. This was about 20 year ago. Expungement 10 years ago.

 

[Dax]

What's the difference if you send it to your home or get a postal annex box where you have to use your driver's license to rent it out and put a fictious name on the package it can still be traced back to you.

 

[1tank1]

^^^Think about it bro

 

[H&M]

What's the difference if you send it to your home or get a postal annex box where you have to use your driver's license to rent it out and put a fictious name on the package it can still be traced back to you.

Plus one more loop only.

 

[malfeasance]

Plus sometimes fictitious names will not get delivered. If the name is not on the box, sometimes (frequently) they send it back to the sender.

 

[Pantera]

I've been busted. Customs saw a whole cycle worth of stuff in the mail and figured I was a dealer. Because if you have 3 months worth of personal use marijuana or cocaine in your possession you'd probably be dealing. So you get the controlled delivery... it was arriving real late for obvious reasons they were setting up a bust so I had cleaned up the house just in case. But they deliver first thing in the morning when you aren't thinking straight so I accepted it when things were not right (was obviously not the postman delivering) and I shouldn't have.

So they arrested me, "tossed up" my place, sent me to jail overnight until an arraignment could be arranged. All the neighbors saw me in handcuffs. Charged with felony drugs possession and felony intent to distribute which also was in the local newspaper. They didn't have much of a case (I never opened the package and it was addressed to someone else, a girl, in my home) so they roomed me with a jailhouse snitch who asked me all kinds of incriminating questions. They then investigated me, talked to everyone in my life (girlfriend, boss at work, friends etc) and came to the conclusion I wasn't a dealer.

They made a couple plea offers but I declined. My lawyer and I had found a part in their warrant where they lied, which will get the case dismissed almost every time if you can prove it. You can't get arrested and charged (even in small part) over a lie. And later I got it expunged, over the objection of the county prosecutor. This was about 20 year ago. Expungement 10 years ago.

Wow, ain't that some bullshit.

 

[Dax]

I include the name in the contract as "this guy" or "my friend" will also be getting his mail here as well but still try to worm your way out of that if you get caught.