Shivathedestroyer
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He got arrested
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Gs anyone actually gotten busted with shipments to their house?
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Also you gotta realize 20 years ago was not long after Sept 11th, so customs became extra thorough. There was the anthrax mailing deal. The war on drugs hadn't been lost yet. They had the BALCO scandal. And there was a lot of highly publicized young people committing suicide after coming off steroids which made the DEA make AAS a higher priority. They broke up the labs in Mexico. All the stuff Snowden exposed was going on. So it was a different time. But I also feel that today, just as much as back then, if you're going to get the police knocking on your door it'll be because you ordered bulk from China.
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Pantera
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I was more talking about the extent to which they pursued the charges. If they did even a little bit of homework on steroids then they wouldn't have hit you with an intent to distribute - or maybe they still would have because they're assholes. I tend to lean toward the latter option - that they're assholes.
It's as if they don't care about the effects (both short term and long term) on people's lives.
@Pantera yeah it's their job to be assholes, but also keep in mind that convicting someone of their first felony is no easy task for them. They don't have the resources to take hardly any cases to trial.
So what they do is stack the charges such that your schedule 3 intent to distribute charge carries a max sentence of 20 years in prison and $250,000 fine if you're found guilty by a jury, and they offer to drop that charge if you plead to the steroid possession charge - which is also a felony and wrecks your life but only is 1 to 3 months in jail. And under the letter of the law a cycle of steroids is considered enough on hand to prove intent to distribute.
And the county judges and county prosecutor is often elected based on how tough they are on crime.
So what they do is stack the charges such that your schedule 3 intent to distribute charge carries a max sentence of 20 years in prison and $250,000 fine if you're found guilty by a jury, and they offer to drop that charge if you plead to the steroid possession charge - which is also a felony and wrecks your life but only is 1 to 3 months in jail. And under the letter of the law a cycle of steroids is considered enough on hand to prove intent to distribute.
And the county judges and county prosecutor is often elected based on how tough they are on crime.
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malfeasance
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That really, really depends on the jurisdiction.
malfeasance
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Was this due to a shipment to his house?
Shivathedestroyer
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No. He was arrested in the express mishap earlier this month
malfeasance
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Sorry, Shiva, I thought I read most stuff on here, but I think I missed that one. Do you have a link? I searched "express" here on the forum, but that did not turn up anything that appeared relevant.
Shivathedestroyer
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Show me a jurisdiction that has the resources to try even 10% of their cases...
We're talking enough court rooms to handle the trials, enough jurors that were handed jury duty notice, the prosecutor who has about 40 cases is tied up in court for a day or two on just one case. You need enough judges. The police who arrested you are called in off their job to testify... And they need enough of a budget.
So in reality, 2% of federal cases end up in trial and up to 5% of cases in some state jurisdictions end up in trial. And the system is set up and worked in a way that they can coerce you into a conviction without a trial.
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This is generally not recommended because instead of bringing it to your doorstep and giving it to whoever opens the door they are now having you come pick it up. So, nowadays there is probably a small GPS tracker in the box. There's a video camera in the building recording you picking it up. Another camera outside recording your vehicle. And an employee who watched you pick it up... plus the package is probably too big to fit in the receptacle so you'll have to ask the employee to get it for you, who then calls the police as instructed. It's really hard to fight charges under those circumstances.
Pineapples4Puss
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Honestly if they want to go to that extent for a few vials of test whatever. Make me feel special. I’ll waste the fuck out of their time with a lawyer and drain my bank account at that point. If I have a felony may as well go out with a bang or get it dropped down.
Raws different story I guess. That’s when it gets dicey and I’d be nervous. I don’t ever plan on brewing tbh. Seems more pain that it’s worth for the extra bucks.
Maybe after I settle down a bit and don’t have so many other obligations.
No it's not much trouble for them. The PO Box, whether you're renting it from the USPS or a private company is going to have security cameras already installed. It's not much trouble to slip a GPS unit in the box. Not much trouble to tell the employee to call them when you ask for the box. The most trouble is they have to test the substance and make sure it is what they think it is before they can get the warrant.
But yeah, like I said coercing you into pleading guilty for your first felony is no easy task. They can also offer a "stay of imposition" where you're a felon under probation for like 5 years and afterwards it becomes a misdemeanor. And the alternative is years in prison if the jury finds you guilty.
Pineapples4Puss
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I meant If they want to be useless and go after a nobody like me so be it. It’s out of my control anyways.
But I don’t think I’d survive in prison.
Which is why people take the deal.
Just order domestic. You don't have to worry about it then. You'll only get busted then if somebody tells on you
combover
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And the biggest factor to helping you get busted, you have to drive with it. There's not many ways to make yourself more vulnerable than to operate a vehicle on a public road.
malfeasance
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I know folks on these forums like to write things like what you wrote, but you are wrong. They do go to that extent, and they will make you feel special. Postal inspectors will wait all day and the next and the next for you to show up and claim your vials, however, long it takes. This is not supposition. They really do this.
The only reason you have not been popped yet is that it is a numbers game. They catch very few parcels of contraband. In terms of sheer numbers, they catch a lot, but in terms of percentages, it is very small, because there is so much contraband being mailed.
But when your number is up, that is, your lottery ticket wins, and they catch your box of roids, you need to know that the postal service will devote resources to catching you. Multiple inspectors will be there waiting for you. The federal prosecutor won't want to touch it, but after he rejects it, they will go to the local police drug squad and drop the case in their lap. If this is a felony in your jurisdiction (as it is in most), then the local drug team and local DA will be all eager to go after this felony neatly wrapped present with a bow, just handed to them with no effort on their part and no expenditure of resources.
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malfeasance
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They catch a small percentage of domestic, too, without anybody telling on anybody. Again, this is not me guessing. They really do catch domestic mail with steroids in it.Which is why people take the deal.
Just order domestic. You don't have to worry about it then. You'll only get busted then if somebody tells on you
Except they need a warrant to open a domestic package and no warrant is needed for customs to open an international package. And in order to get the judge approved warrant for a domestic shipment someone pretty much needs to tell.
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Yeah in my case the feds didn't want to pursue it and probably wasn't even asked so they asked the local drug team. The warrant said a drug sniffing dog alerted them to the package in customs and yeah no drug sniffing dog has ever been trained to sniff out dianabol (what's next? train them on winstrol and halotestin?) so we asked for info about this dog and the feds/USPS never sent the local prosecutors the info so they dropped they case. Makes me wonder if a 500 pill bottle of 5mg dianabol was ever even sent from China to me or it was just a sting.
The drug team spent probably about $4,000-6,000 in salaries for a case the Feds wouldn't even back them up on.
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