Hair Loss

[Ghoul]

I was transplanted with a very high density. And in general, I had almost no hair left in the area where the transplant was done

High density will quickly deplete the donor area and is only suitable when addressing a limited area of loss. How many grafts were used?

In any case, I'm sure you'd agree prevention is preferable to hair replacement, as you end up on finasteride or dutasteride anyway,

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

sadly not all HT hairs are 100% DHT resistant, the procedure itself can fuck HT hair , and can affect the surronding native hair, meaning some hairs that +/- was still holding on, they will gone... thats why its really advice to be on fin/dut etc for try to keep HT result, because if you start to lose native hair you lose lot of density and the more natural look.

high density for one area is like 3000-3200 grafts thats +/- 12.000 hair follicules. (some people have more hair follicules that others per graft)

in average we can safely take 6000 grafts from donor area, equivalent to 20.000-25.000 hair follicules

 

[Clover 0080]

Ive been experiencing TONS of hair shedding from using tirz for 7 months. I don't know if its from lack of protein or nutrients but it got to a point where I couldn't even brush my hair or what little I had left would fall out. Ive been using female Rogain and tons of vitamins and I see the hair growth in my roots.
For reference I had hair down to my butt before starting Tirzepeptide.
Wearing extensions until I can grow it back.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Ive been experiencing TONS of hair shedding from using tirz for 7 months. I don't know if its from lack of protein or nutrients but it got to a point where I couldn't even brush my hair or what little I had left would fall out. Ive been using female Rogain and tons of vitamins and I see the hair growth in my roots.
For reference I had hair down to my butt before starting Tirzepeptide.
Wearing extensions until I can grow it back.

Sorry to hear that, are you taking any other medications or unusual supplements? For example, some anti-depressants can cause hairloss.

How is your daily food intake? Honestly? If you are fasting all day and having a "girl dinner" this could be a major contributory factor especially if you weren't supplementing with other vitamins/minerals until recently. You can see this clearly with Vegans/Vegetarians for example.

I would recommend getting bloodwork to check your thyroid and nutrient deficiencies. Also, ensure you are getting enough protein and fat.

If I were a woman, I would stop the tirz and take oral minoxidil instead of topical minoxidil, but i don't know your BMI history.

 

[Clover 0080]

Sorry to hear that, are you taking any other medications or unusual supplements? For example, some anti-depressants can cause hairloss.

How is your daily food intake? Honestly? If you are fasting all day and having a "girl dinner" this could be a major contributory factor especially if you weren't supplementing with other vitamins/minerals until recently. You can see this clearly with Vegans/Vegetarians for example.

I would recommend getting bloodwork to check your thyroid and nutrient deficiencies. Also, ensure you are getting enough protein and fat.

If I were a woman, I would stop the tirz and take oral minoxidil instead of topical minoxidil, but i don't know your BMI history.

Honestly I really wasn't taking any supplements and lacking on the protein heavily when the hair loss started. Im almost positive If i would have stuck to all the things you mentioned while taking tirz I wouldn't be in this shape. I was really lacking.

Ive stopped tirzepeptide weeks ago because im at goal weight and i tell everyone i have on a glp-1 to not get lazy with the eating especially protein.. Ill try the oral minoxidil. Is taking the oral and topical together a little over kill or would it be fine?

 

[Liter O' Test]

Honestly I really wasn't taking any supplements and lacking on the protein heavily when the hair loss started. Im almost positive If i would have stuck to all the things you mentioned while taking tirz I wouldn't be in this shape. I was really lacking.

Ive stopped tirzepeptide weeks ago because im at goal weight and i tell everyone i have on a glp-1 to not get lazy with the eating especially protein.. Ill try the oral minoxidil. Is taking the oral and topical together a little over kill or would it be fine?

both oral and topical is overkill. the advantage of oral is you don't have to get all that crap in your hair and mess around with applying it. oral is superior because its systemic. I get it pretty cheap from an indian pharmaceutical vendor. I take 5mg a day but I'm a lot bigger than you and most people take 1.25mg-2.5mg.

I still recommend testing your thyroid as drastic weightloss could have caused you to have hypothyroidism, also part of thyroid health is iodine which you can look into because you could have been low on iodine due to a restrictive diet.

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

Honestly I really wasn't taking any supplements and lacking on the protein heavily when the hair loss started. Im almost positive If i would have stuck to all the things you mentioned while taking tirz I wouldn't be in this shape. I was really lacking.

Ive stopped tirzepeptide weeks ago because im at goal weight and i tell everyone i have on a glp-1 to not get lazy with the eating especially protein.. Ill try the oral minoxidil. Is taking the oral and topical together a little over kill or would it be fine?

Hair loss has been reported as a common side effect of tirzepatide clinical studies. semaglutide users can also eperience hair loss.
Hair loss Probably will stop a few weeks after cessation of Tirz, but almost sure with will take several months for you to notice improvement.
any hormonal change can disrupt hair cycles , and its "always" fast to lose hair and slow to gain back,

sudden weight loss can also start telogen effluvium hairloss, that is temporay

About topical minox if you are already using it stay in that protocol for 6months a see form there.
every new treatment add to hair loss could make us shed, not to mention with oral minox the effect is more overall, i mean you probably will notice much more bodyhair face, legs arms etc. Topical minox have more target effect , and despite that y still can notice more facial hair , and even more arms or hands cuz u need to rubb the topical minox .

u can also do bloodwork checkup , to see if your lacking Iron or vit d

 

[Liter O' Test]

oral minox will be much better for a woman with diffuse shedding, topical is more for the hairline for men

 

[iris]

Real

oral minox will be much better for a woman with diffuse shedding, topical is more for the hairline for men

Really?
I know a couple of women who saw a trichologist for their hairloss, but both were advised not to take it orally.
They were given the topical solution.
I don't know what sides they may have been warned about.
Maybe it just was not suitable in their circumstances.
But for one, the hairloss had been quite significant, from what she said.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Real
Really?
I know a couple of women who saw a trichologist for their hairloss, but both were advised not to take it orally.
They were given the topical solution.
I don't know what sides they may have been warned about.
Maybe it just was not suitable in their circumstances.
But for one, the hairloss had been quite significant, from what she said.

well, topical only affects where its put, women suffer from mostly diffuse thinning, so they'd have to apply it everywhere which just doesnt seem practical or realistic. where men are usually more concerned with just the hairline.

im sure you know most doctors are retards that dismiss anything that wasn't shown in their textbook and also just the 'rogaine' effect on the culture that promotes topical.

 

[iris]

well, topical only affects where its put, women suffer from mostly diffuse thinning, so they'd have to apply it everywhere which just doesnt seem practical or realistic. where men are usually more concerned with just the hairline.

im sure you know most doctors are retards that dismiss anything that wasn't shown in their textbook and also just the 'rogaine' effect on the culture that promotes topical.

Fair enough.
If I see them and it's not too awkward, I shall ask what they were actually told by the trichologist.
Thank you for your reply.

 

[Clover 0080]

Fair enough.
If I see them and it's not too awkward, I shall ask what they were actually told by the trichologist.
Thank you for your reply.

I'm curious what the side effects the dr was worried about also. I'm thinking maybe because most woman will have an issue with growing more body hair and that might deter them from continuing to use it. I do see a difference with topical so far. Maybe a half an inch of dark regrowth coming in and I haven't been using it that long

 

[iris]

I'm curious what the side effects the dr was worried about also. I'm thinking maybe because most woman will have an issue with growing more body hair and that might deter them from continuing to use it. I do see a difference with topical so far. Maybe a half an inch of dark regrowth coming in and I haven't been using it that long

Thank you for writing.
Yes, I should see one of them, at some point.
I will ask her and will remember to write it here, if I manage to find out.
Glad it is working for you.

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

oral minox will be much better for a woman with diffuse shedding, topical is more for the hairline for men

dont know if oral is better or not for women and diffuse thining. topical is used for hairloss in general if you have difuse ofc you need to cover more area, topical is more target and less systemic. BUT even just for applying the topical with bare hands you can gain more hands/arms hair.

oral and topical have +/- the same results, but Oral have more sides and for sure more bodyhair is one of them and being a women, im just saying....
Ofc some will have more gains on Oral than topical, or vice-versa, but usually you always start with topical. Also i think the only 2% minoxidl is approved for women, but the use in women of 5% minoxidil is a lot common.

and for what i understand she´s already using for some time, at least enough time to seeing results, so there is no point on start another treatment.

 

[Liter O' Test]

dont know if oral is better or not for women and diffuse thining. topical is used for hairloss in general if you have difuse ofc you need to cover more area, topical is more target and less systemic. BUT even just for applying the topical with bare hands you can gain more hands/arms hair.

oral and topical have +/- the same results, but Oral have more sides and for sure more bodyhair is one of them and being a women, im just saying....
Ofc some will have more gains on Oral than topical, or vice-versa, but usually you always start with topical. Also i think the only 2% minoxidl is approved for women, but the use in women of 5% minoxidil is a lot common.

and for what i understand she´s already using for some time, at least enough time to seeing results, so there is no point on start another treatment.

have you used topical minox? that shit sucks, it makes your hair sticky and shitty and its basically impossible to apply to the roots everywhere , and i think ideally its twice per day , so, I can't imagine a woman covering their whole scalp in this stuff in the morning and going about their day.

women shave themselves anyway, also I've been on 5mg of oral minox for 3-4 months while on 1g+ testosterone and I dont have hairy hands or knuckles

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

have you used topical minox? that shit sucks, it makes your hair sticky and shitty and its basically impossible to apply to the roots everywhere , and i think ideally its twice per day , so, I can't imagine a woman covering their whole scalp in this stuff in the morning and going about their day.

women shave themselves anyway, also I've been on 5mg of oral minox for 3-4 months while on 1g+ testosterone and I dont have hairy hands or knuckles

one apllication at night some hours before bed is enough .
yeah they shave but with time hair grows faster and thicker and in areas she never had

i use both for some years, topical since 2020and oral since late 2021 2.5mg
also try oral 5mg for 6months, but i just only see more bodyhair so i return to 2.5mg.

i never had much hair on my arms , just on my forearm and im dark skinned so .... but this last years slowy my arms got a lot more hairs even the shoulders , this years i only done one short cycle.

well at least body laser removal results still ok despite haven´t done more sessiosn since 2022, but now i m going to laser my arms , its to much for me.