Has anyone here who couldn't handle the androgenic effects of high end TRT long term successfully transitioned to nandrolone mono or lower T + nandro?

[jtmarlin]

Has anyone here who couldn't handle the androgenic effects of high end TRT long term successfully transitioned to nandrolone mono or lower T + nandro?

I've been on TRT 140-210mg and cycling for years and developing prostate issues - swelling hypertrophy etc.

Has anyone who was either balding/prostate/acne whatever successfully transitioned to either nandrolone monotherapy to address these issues or do something like 50-100mg of test + 50-100mg of nandrolone long term?

We know the reasons one would do this and many who are on "true TRT" - not high end clinic TRT and has been in the gear game wants a touch more anabolism.

Any success stories?

 

[xrayphoton13]

Has anyone here who couldn't handle the androgenic effects of high end TRT long term successfully transitioned to nandrolone mono or lower T + nandro?

I've been on TRT 140-210mg and cycling for years and developing prostate issues - swelling hypertrophy etc.

Has anyone who was either balding/prostate/acne whatever successfully transitioned to either nandrolone monotherapy to address these issues or do something like 50-100mg of test + 50-100mg of nandrolone long term?

We know the reasons one would do this and many who are on "true TRT" - not high end clinic TRT and has been in the gear game wants a touch more anabolism.

Any success stories?

Try the trt and hormone optimization YouTube channel or Facebook group. I don't think anyone would recommend nandrolone mono therapy but there are people who run both for years to life without issue. My doc just added in nandrolone to my trt but not because I couldn't handle high test, my knee is just getting old on me and nandrolone helps.


View: https://youtu.be/A0UmMrtEuQc?si=2b4OcHHl5HJ4K676



View: https://youtu.be/6_chphHu7Xg?si=xuFFdUXorx-JA4ry



View: https://youtu.be/QJXl0Ij0zTg?si=-tqpafVvsjF-ijYr


Maybe some of these will help. Their Facebook group just got nuked but they started a new one

 

[RandallFlagg]

Well...there was one guy here not that long ago...

 

[Tdeck81]

Try the trt and hormone optimization YouTube channel or Facebook group. I don't think anyone would recommend nandrolone mono therapy but there are people who run both for years to life without issue. My doc just added in nandrolone to my trt but not because I couldn't handle high test, my knee is just getting old on me and nandrolone helps.


View: https://youtu.be/A0UmMrtEuQc?si=2b4OcHHl5HJ4K676



View: https://youtu.be/6_chphHu7Xg?si=xuFFdUXorx-JA4ry



View: https://youtu.be/QJXl0Ij0zTg?si=-tqpafVvsjF-ijYr


Maybe some of these will help. Their Facebook group just got nuked but they started a new one

Thanks for the videos. Been looking into this same topic and hadn’t come across them yet.

 

[jtmarlin]

Try the trt and hormone optimization YouTube channel or Facebook group. I don't think anyone would recommend nandrolone mono therapy but there are people who run both for years to life without issue. My doc just added in nandrolone to my trt but not because I couldn't handle high test, my knee is just getting old on me and nandrolone helps.


View: https://youtu.be/A0UmMrtEuQc?si=2b4OcHHl5HJ4K676



View: https://youtu.be/6_chphHu7Xg?si=xuFFdUXorx-JA4ry



View: https://youtu.be/QJXl0Ij0zTg?si=-tqpafVvsjF-ijYr


Maybe some of these will help. Their Facebook group just got nuked but they started a new one

Thanks for sharing. Interestingly in the first video Jeffrey was ALSO on test with the deca. He says that j the video that he was always on test in addition.

 

[jtmarlin]

Thanks for sharing. Interestingly in the first video Jeffrey was ALSO on test with the deca. He says in the video that he was always on test in addition. Then in the second video he says he was always on 600-800mg of test plus hundreds of grams of deca. The first video comes off as if he's doing deca monotherapy at 100-200mg a week but then seems to contradict himself. I don't know. I've done the TRT + deca from my clinic in the past but never was bold enough to take these test wayyyyy down and the deca up. Perhaps worth a shot.

 

[ComancheChief]

Well...there was one guy here not that long ago...

He seemed like a positive upbeat guy

 

[xrayphoton13]

Thanks for sharing. Interestingly in the first video Jeffrey was ALSO on test with the deca. He says in the video that he was always on test in addition. Then in the second video he says he was always on 600-800mg of test plus hundreds of grams of deca. The first video comes off as if he's doing deca monotherapy at 100-200mg a week but then seems to contradict himself. I don't know. I've done the TRT + deca from my clinic in the past but never was bold enough to take these test wayyyyy down and the deca up. Perhaps worth a shot.

It's worth a shot. Ive tried trt test plus 100mg deca and was fine but ended up settling at 75mg deca for now as it's enough for my knee to feel alright. I tried high deca(700mg+) no test and used dbol for (methyl) e2 but it made me lethargic and mentally I felt slow. And I've tried high deca with 100mg test. Still had me feeling lethargic. Masteron did not help either.
It takes about two weeks after starting high deca for it to take it's effect on my brain. I'm not sure if that's when it fully saturate or when it depletes my brain of dopamine or whatever it does up there in my head but all the sudden I just feel like I'm floating mentally. Hard to explain but very calm, relaxed, sluggish, chill, almost like if you took a small hit of weed but loved that way and I just can't do that 24/7 for very long. I would get nothing done around the house, lol

Everyone feels nandrolone different though. I've tried both deca(1x or 2x inj per week) and NPP(daily or EOD or MWF inj) and couldn't tell a difference. I've read many accounts though of people doing better on NPP and having more energy

 

[jtmarlin]

It's worth a shot. Ive tried trt test plus 100mg deca and was fine but ended up settling at 75mg deca for now as it's enough for my knee to feel alright. I tried high deca(700mg+) no test and used dbol for (methyl) e2 but it made me lethargic and mentally I felt slow. And I've tried high deca with 100mg test. Still had me feeling lethargic. Masteron did not help either.
It takes about two weeks after starting high deca for it to take it's effect on my brain. I'm not sure if that's when it fully saturate or when it depletes my brain of dopamine or whatever it does up there in my head but all the sudden I just feel like I'm floating mentally. Hard to explain but very calm, relaxed, sluggish, chill, almost like if you took a small hit of weed but loved that way and I just can't do that 24/7 for very long. I would get nothing done around the house, lol

Everyone feels nandrolone different though. I've tried both deca(1x or 2x inj per week) and NPP(daily or EOD or MWF inj) and couldn't tell a difference. I've read many accounts though of people doing better on NPP and having more energy

Ty for sharing. I'm quite a high responder to testosterone. At 112mg per week or 16mg daily cyp I was at 960.

My thoughts were to do something like 70mg per week of test cyp (10mg daily) and then add 100-150mg of nandrolone to get me to 200mg total load while keeping my DHT from the test in range. Or else try 200mg of nandrolone only.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Ty for sharing. I'm quite a high responder to testosterone. At 112mg per week or 16mg daily cyp I was at 960.

My thoughts were to do something like 70mg per week of test cyp (10mg daily) and then add 100-150mg of nandrolone to get me to 200mg total load while keeping my DHT from the test in range. Or else try 200mg of nandrolone only.

You could try the first one and see how you do but I wouldn't try nandrolone solo personally as it's hard to get enough e2. Even running 400-600mg nandrolone solo may not be enough to get e2 in range. Taeian Clark and his camel cult Facebook group is big on nandrolone solo cycles but not for hrt as it's so hard to get enough e2 aromatization on nandrolone solo. Some people claim to run a gram or more of nandrolone and e2 is still tanked. If you go that route you really need to check a sensitive e2 test every 4-6 weeks. Or just add in some test like your first option. Even 25-50mg testosterone might be enough

 

[Smokeythabear]

Check out this guy. He has quite a few videos on a no test cycle built on Deca and NPP

Trenemy #1

 

[ComancheChief]

You could try the first one and see how you do but I wouldn't try nandrolone solo personally as it's hard to get enough e2. Even running 400-600mg nandrolone solo may not be enough to get e2 in range. Taeian Clark and his camel cult Facebook group is big on nandrolone solo cycles but not for hrt as it's so hard to get enough e2 aromatization on nandrolone solo. Some people claim to run a gram or more of nandrolone and e2 is still tanked. If you go that route you really need to check a sensitive e2 test every 4-6 weeks. Or just add in some test like your first option. Even 25-50mg testosterone might be enough

I’ll admit, initially I laughed at the idea of no test cycles. But I can see their usefulness in the short term when it comes to results in muscle gain/fat loss. Some guys have successfully run those kind of cycles with impressive results. Unsurprisingly enough, all of these guys also experience very bad side effects from even a moderate 500mg of test and are sensitive to estrogen. So perhaps there’s some rationale for guys who can run these kind of cycles and feel okay.

 

[ThinBulk]

Has anyone here who couldn't handle the androgenic effects of high end TRT long term successfully transitioned to nandrolone mono or lower T + nandro?

I've been on TRT 140-210mg and cycling for years and developing prostate issues - swelling hypertrophy etc.

Has anyone who was either balding/prostate/acne whatever successfully transitioned to either nandrolone monotherapy to address these issues or do something like 50-100mg of test + 50-100mg of nandrolone long term?

We know the reasons one would do this and many who are on "true TRT" - not high end clinic TRT and has been in the gear game wants a touch more anabolism.

Any success stories?

Thought of just taking .25mg finasteride every day and seeing how it treats you?

 

[jtmarlin]

Thought of just taking .25mg finasteride every day and seeing how it treats you?

Have thought of this as well but the chance of post finasteride syndrome keeps me away. Probably putting too much weight on it.

 

[IndividualMan]

Have thought of this as well but the chance of post finasteride syndrome keeps me away. Probably putting too much weight on it.

dutasteride is also an option.

Had a talk with a biochem/pharmacy dual student recently, he said that the Post finasteride syndrome might be a thing because it is one of those "small molecule" drugs, which was all the rage back in the day. (one of those new & novel "future of medicine" type developments, which attracts a large research /development budget)
turns out they tend to have some strange side effects because they "go places they shouldnt because they are so small" in his dumbed down explanation (mind you, I was horrendously plastered when I had this talk, so details might be wrong)

so yeah, finasteride molecules seem to be little guys who go lots of places and might cause some problems. if you have problems with that, there are other 5alphareductase inhibitors or even antiandrogens (only topically) you can leverage against hairloss.