I'm still trying to figure this out to be honest. There are many studies on it from injecting an IV in pulses throughout the day to mimic the natural pituitary function. It doesn't have a half life as long as HCG. My TRT clinic recommended to dose 100mcg twice a week. I don't think twice a week is enough, maybe daily or twice daily. Have to experiment and blood test to find out.
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I'm still trying to figure this out to be honest. There are many studies on it from injecting an IV in pulses throughout the day to mimic the natural pituitary function. It doesn't have a half life as long as HCG. My TRT clinic recommended to dose 100mcg twice a week. I don't think twice a week is enough, maybe daily or twice daily. Have to experiment and blood test to find out.
jackthegripper2
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Hey guys,
Im in the same boat. Wanting to have kids some day at 33. Ran a sperm test about 1 month ago and have 0 sperm. I lowered my dose of Test to get levels around 900 but after reading all the stuff above Im gonna drop the test and keep up with HCG and enclomiphene. I have HMG coming in the mail.
After dosing 500iu HCG and 12.5 enclomiphene eod my levels came back at FSH <.7 and LH <.2
So absolutely NO change in levels.
I was using RL Enclomiphene but will be switching to Pharm grade Clomid.
Also introducing HMG into the mix once received
Im in the same boat. Wanting to have kids some day at 33. Ran a sperm test about 1 month ago and have 0 sperm. I lowered my dose of Test to get levels around 900 but after reading all the stuff above Im gonna drop the test and keep up with HCG and enclomiphene. I have HMG coming in the mail.
After dosing 500iu HCG and 12.5 enclomiphene eod my levels came back at FSH <.7 and LH <.2
So absolutely NO change in levels.
I was using RL Enclomiphene but will be switching to Pharm grade Clomid.
Also introducing HMG into the mix once received
How long were you dosing the enclomiphene and HCG before testing? Took me 8 weeks of 50mg Clomid ED to see my LH and FSH levels start moving in a positive direction.
jackthegripper2
Member
About a month before I drew bloods. Test around 1000NGL. At this point Im just ready to drop the test get my balls working again so I can Freeze some sperm and not look back at this point. I seem to be one of the ones who needs to just come all the way off.
Were you on TRT levels?
Yeah, I had to come off all the way also. Not sure where I'm at now but about 4-6 weeks ago I tested at 224ng/dL low 200's. I also plan to freeze sperm. As a good note, I have two women who told me they're pregnant. So there is some hope! The first was 24yo and the second 21yo. Im 38yo. The age of the female also has a lot to do with it. I only had 5.5 million sperm count per mL but was still able to get them pregnant! Hope the babies come out good.
jackthegripper2
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Bro no offense but you sound like a piece of shit LOL
SantaNeedaSucc
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Sorry for the stupid old bump but what's the recommended dose to achieve that, if you remember off-hand?
Alistair7
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3 grams L-carnitine was used in the study to show improved motility so I use a minimum of 3 grams and a max of 4 grams. I take about a 50/50 mix of ALC and L-carnitine L tartrate. Injectable works well too but is a major pain in the ass. I get lumps no matter where I inject it and I’ve tried as low as 200mg/ml. 600mg/ml was so thick I had to water the shit down just pass through a 27g pin.
SantaNeedaSucc
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Thanks for the reply dude, gonna skip the injectable and grab some ALC and LC now! What made you choose LCLT over regular LC?
Alistair7
Member
From what I read it best to get L carnitine from different sources. First you want ALC as seamen naturally contains some ALC and I chose LCLT because it is said to be the best L carnitine for bodybuilders. It helps with androgen receptor density.
jackthegripper2
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Welp fellas I got swimmers again! So it took about 30ish days on HCG For the first 2 weeks 1500mg EOD and than starting a proper pct with Clomid and Nolva which Im just getting to week 2 now and will finish the remainder out. I will be continuing a Fertility protocol after that at 50MG ED of clomid till I go ahead and freeze some sperm. Once I get back on I will be running HCG at all times to prevent this from happening.
Henchus maximus98736
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Blast hcg force the response.
mikelaurey84
New Member
The best thing for fertility is to come off testosterone and run only the fertility protocol.
I had the same problem and I solved it stopping the testo.
I had the same problem and I solved it stopping the testo.
Whats the diff between enclomid and clomiphene?
mikelaurey84
New Member
Can you please describe better your past situation? Were you on TRT? blast and cruise? For how many years?
Have you run a spermiogram? Uusually, it takes at least 90 days to see full developed sperms.
Henchus maximus98736
Member
You know that feeling of crushing the world in your hand when in pct with clomid?
Non of that.
Hmm wouldnt you want that feeling?
Henchus maximus98736
Member
Nah. Being a wild bull doesn’t help in life.
Unless your a faggot that wants people to be scared of you.
How long were you on test before coming off? What protocol did you follow?
Im back at week 7 on ovitrelle 40 mcg 3 times a week (around 3250 hcg )
Test came back at 11nmol not high but higher than i had
In a few weeks i take a new semun test...last time after 4 months off everthing is was 7 milj swimmers
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