HCG: The Neuro Miracle?

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Hello All,

I’ve read many bodybuilding forums about HCG increasing testosterone and have found nothing about the remarkable studies of HCG reversing neurological diseases, including paralysis, so I thought I’d start the conversation. HCG appears to stimulate the production of neural stem cells.

Recently I came across an article by Dr. Jeffrey Dach: “Reversing Myopathy from Lead Toxicity.” (this article includes the link for Dr. Wright’s article. Dr. Wright is considered the “father of bio-identical hormone replacement therapy - BHRT”.

http://jeffreydachmd.com/2015/07/reversible-myopathy-from-lead-toxicity/
“Credit and thanks goes to Jonathan Wright MD for his article on HCG as a neuro-regenerative hormone. Dr Wright cites a 1983 study by Dr Patil on the effect of HCG on recovery from spinal cord resection in rats. Also in this 1983 report are two human cases of spinal cord injury with total paraplegia treated with high dose HCG (10,000 iu oer day) with remarkable improvements in both cases after 12 weeks of treatment with HCG. The explanation for the beneficial effect of HCG on neuro-regeneration comes form studies showing the brain and nerve tissue have HCG/LH receptors which stimulate production of neural stem cells. As Dr Wright says, HCG is safe with no adverse effects, and in his opinion, a trial of HCG is reasonable in patients with advanced neurologic degenerative disorders in the hope of stimulating regeneration of damaged neurons. HCG is widely available and easy to obtain. At this time, one can only speculate as to the possible benefits of HCG for a long list of neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinsons, Multiple Sclerosis, Alzheimers, neuropathies and myopathies etc. Perhaps, in the future, more studies using HCG will be forthcoming.(17-18).”

Also, Dr. Forrest Tennant is using HCG to reduce pain from neurological disorders.

http://www.jacobteitelbaum.com/health_articles_o-q/Pain-human-chorionic-gonadotropin.html
When the study started, all 12 patients were taking long-acting narcotics for chronic pain and short-acting narcotics for breakthrough pain. Their "morphine equivalencies" ranged from 500 to 1,500 mg a day — a massive dose.

Dr. Tennant gave the patients a challenge dose of 500 to 1,000 units of HCG subcutaneously. In just one week, 8 of the 12 patients reported feeling improvement in pain symptoms. For the next year, those 8 patients continued to receive 1 to 3 HCG injections per week (subcutaneous dosages were 1,000-3,000 units per week; HCG shots are easy to self-administer, like insulin). No other changes were made during the patients' therapy.

And People Received a Lot of Relief

They had fewer flares of severe pain. Seven of the 8 patients cut their use of narcotics by 30-50%. Five of the patients said they experienced some pain-free hours. All the patients reported more energy, better concentration, and less depression. And after the year was up, all of them said they wanted to stay on HCG — which was hardly surprising, given the benefits.

My interest in HCG is to reverse my spino-cerebellar ataxia that has progressively worsened over the last 40 years. My major symptoms are difficulty in walking, poor balance, mild tremors, and mild speech difficulty. Currently, I am about a year or two from a wheel chair.

Another issue I have is cardiomyopathy with an ejection fraction in the mid 30’s (normal 55-60). I’ve read that about 80% of cardio cells are now considered “cardio-neuron” cells. That being the case, I believe the HCG will also strengthen my heart muscles to fully contract. An increase of my ejection fraction would indicate HCG improves the neuro to muscle signaling; making muscles stronger.

I have decided to use HCG to hopefully reverse my ataxia, but was concerned about “desensitizing” the Leydig Cells. A big Thank You to Dr. Michael Scally for exposing this as a myth, using published reports and Dr. Scally’s own clinical experience. I remember reading years ago that taking large doses of any hormone may cause a temporary receptor resistance.

My original protocol was to use 2,000iu every other day, but will follow Dr. Scally’s recommendation of every 3-4 days for about 3 months.

In addition, I will take 15mg of zinc w/1mg copper twice a day to reduce testosterone conversion to estrogens and increase DHT (for sexual performance, I’m 64 years old).

Also, 750mg of a quality stinging nettle root extract, which is good for the above plus supposedly beneficial for the prostate and hair.

Hopefully I can start in a couple weeks. I will update this thread to report my “ataxia reversal” progress.

The bottom line? HCG may prevent and even reverse many neurological problems and even cardiomyopathy, as well as many other “incurables”.
 
Short update. I began taking Pregnyl (HCG) 3,600iu SC EOD.

After a couple days, my insomnia was reduced and after two weeks is pretty much gone. I am also calmer. After about a week and a half, I notice I lost about 2lbs of belly fat. This is without and exercise or changes in diet. Still waiting for improvement in ataxia which will come with neuro-genesis.
 
Hello,
I've been taking hcg for about 4 1/2 weeks at varying dosages for a total of 50kiu. The reported benefits above still hold true. My ataxia is unchanged. From what I read, it takes about 3 weeks for new neurons to mature and become active. I just started taking 4.5kiu every 3 days to saturate my nervous system. I'm still very optimistic and will report back when the ataxia becomes noticeably improved:)
 
Dear Dr. Scally, for my ataxia, hcg is the only option left. I tried stem cells, acupuncture, and every nutrient there is.

From Dr. Jonathan Wright.

Two totally paraplegic humans walking with crutches after HCG treatment

But the 1983 research report was not entirely confined to results achieved in experimental animals. In the very last two paragraphs of the nine page report, the researchers wrote: “We have started a clinical trial on patients with total paraplegia using 20,000 units of HCG intramuscularly on the first day, followed by 10,000 units every day for the first week, and then 10,000 units every alternate day for five weeks. Whenever there was evidence of blockage, spinal canal decompression was carried out. The first patient with a lesion at T11- T12 spinal segment, now after three months is able to stand with a walker and move his lower extremities with voluntary movement in all muscle groups. The second patient, now after five weeks with a lesion at T1 spinal segment has almost complete sensory recovery, including bladder sensation, and has voluntary muscle contraction in both proximal [near] and distal [far] groups of muscles in his lower extremities.”

In an undated addendum by the same authors (printed with the original research report) state: “Both patients mentioned in the paper are now able to walk with the help of crutches.” That’s right, two paraplegic men who weren’t able to walk were able to walk with crutches after HCG treatment! And yes, the quantities used were massive, but there was (as might be predicted) no mention of adverse events. And also yes, massive doses of HCG are expensive—although not as costly as the average hospital bill—but for the chance to walk once again, what would you do for yourself, a family member, a close friend?

http://www.tahomaclinicblog.com/hcg-neuronal-regeneration/
 
Dear Dr. Scally, for my ataxia, hcg is the only option left. I tried stem cells, acupuncture, and every nutrient there is.

From Dr. Jonathan Wright.

Two totally paraplegic humans walking with crutches after HCG treatment

But the 1983 research report was not entirely confined to results achieved in experimental animals. In the very last two paragraphs of the nine page report, the researchers wrote: “We have started a clinical trial on patients with total paraplegia using 20,000 units of HCG intramuscularly on the first day, followed by 10,000 units every day for the first week, and then 10,000 units every alternate day for five weeks. Whenever there was evidence of blockage, spinal canal decompression was carried out. The first patient with a lesion at T11- T12 spinal segment, now after three months is able to stand with a walker and move his lower extremities with voluntary movement in all muscle groups. The second patient, now after five weeks with a lesion at T1 spinal segment has almost complete sensory recovery, including bladder sensation, and has voluntary muscle contraction in both proximal [near] and distal [far] groups of muscles in his lower extremities.”

In an undated addendum by the same authors (printed with the original research report) state: “Both patients mentioned in the paper are now able to walk with the help of crutches.” That’s right, two paraplegic men who weren’t able to walk were able to walk with crutches after HCG treatment! And yes, the quantities used were massive, but there was (as might be predicted) no mention of adverse events. And also yes, massive doses of HCG are expensive—although not as costly as the average hospital bill—but for the chance to walk once again, what would you do for yourself, a family member, a close friend?

http://www.tahomaclinicblog.com/hcg-neuronal-regeneration/
I think Hope is an awesome and and very powerful miracle drug-Keep Hope alive and make the possible-Probable for others. ..Dont listen to the negative talk-Scientifically the Bumble Bee shouldnt fly because their wings are too weak and their body is too big-but that doesnt stop the Bee from Buzzin around. ..You can do all things-through the Hope and glory-that strengthens YOU...Stay strong and hopeful. .People need you, thanks
 
A big thanks BigPharma:)

Now that the neurogenesis is kicking in, I began knee bends, will add balancing exercises standing with eyes closed, then the treadmill, then weights. Will update as I progress.
 
A big thanks BigPharma:)

Now that the neurogenesis is kicking in, I began knee bends, will add balancing exercises standing with eyes closed, then the treadmill, then weights. Will update as I progress.
That is beyond GREAT, thanks for everything you are sharing- please do update. .I am very hopeful for you and the progress you are showing. Keep up the great work,Mid. ...
 
Dude great post man everything makes so much sense now for me. I recently recovered from Lyme disease and because of the beating my system had taken my natural Testosterone levels dropped. I also suffered from some nasty neurological issues like neuralgia an peripheral neuropathy from the Lyme. It wasn't anything permanent or quite as serious are your situation but they prescribed me HCG 1500 iu's twice a week and my neurological issues literally disappeared man. I thought it was just a coincidence but after seeing this post I really think HCG played a huge role. Literally within days I felt better man good stuff, I'm not sure if the effects were from the HCG itself or as a result of the boost in natty test levels but either way great stuff man.
 
Subbed, I hope this works for you. I am now pondering whether to tell my friend who was paralyzed in a motorcycle accident and has seem to have lost all hope of ever walking
 
Great thread and information. I have nerve pain and neuralgia on my back from shingles. I'll b incorporating hcg into my next cycle and will report if it helped
 
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Hello All,

I’ve read many bodybuilding forums about HCG increasing testosterone and have found nothing about the remarkable studies of HCG reversing neurological diseases, including paralysis, so I thought I’d start the conversation. HCG appears to stimulate the production of neural stem cells.

Recently I came across an article by Dr. Jeffrey Dach: “Reversing Myopathy from Lead Toxicity.” (this article includes the link for Dr. Wright’s article. Dr. Wright is considered the “father of bio-identical hormone replacement therapy - BHRT”.

http://jeffreydachmd.com/2015/07/reversible-myopathy-from-lead-toxicity/
“Credit and thanks goes to Jonathan Wright MD for his article on HCG as a neuro-regenerative hormone. Dr Wright cites a 1983 study by Dr Patil on the effect of HCG on recovery from spinal cord resection in rats. Also in this 1983 report are two human cases of spinal cord injury with total paraplegia treated with high dose HCG (10,000 iu oer day) with remarkable improvements in both cases after 12 weeks of treatment with HCG. The explanation for the beneficial effect of HCG on neuro-regeneration comes form studies showing the brain and nerve tissue have HCG/LH receptors which stimulate production of neural stem cells. As Dr Wright says, HCG is safe with no adverse effects, and in his opinion, a trial of HCG is reasonable in patients with advanced neurologic degenerative disorders in the hope of stimulating regeneration of damaged neurons. HCG is widely available and easy to obtain. At this time, one can only speculate as to the possible benefits of HCG for a long list of neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinsons, Multiple Sclerosis, Alzheimers, neuropathies and myopathies etc. Perhaps, in the future, more studies using HCG will be forthcoming.(17-18).”

Also, Dr. Forrest Tennant is using HCG to reduce pain from neurological disorders.

http://www.jacobteitelbaum.com/health_articles_o-q/Pain-human-chorionic-gonadotropin.html
When the study started, all 12 patients were taking long-acting narcotics for chronic pain and short-acting narcotics for breakthrough pain. Their "morphine equivalencies" ranged from 500 to 1,500 mg a day — a massive dose.

Dr. Tennant gave the patients a challenge dose of 500 to 1,000 units of HCG subcutaneously. In just one week, 8 of the 12 patients reported feeling improvement in pain symptoms. For the next year, those 8 patients continued to receive 1 to 3 HCG injections per week (subcutaneous dosages were 1,000-3,000 units per week; HCG shots are easy to self-administer, like insulin). No other changes were made during the patients' therapy.

And People Received a Lot of Relief

They had fewer flares of severe pain. Seven of the 8 patients cut their use of narcotics by 30-50%. Five of the patients said they experienced some pain-free hours. All the patients reported more energy, better concentration, and less depression. And after the year was up, all of them said they wanted to stay on HCG — which was hardly surprising, given the benefits.

My interest in HCG is to reverse my spino-cerebellar ataxia that has progressively worsened over the last 40 years. My major symptoms are difficulty in walking, poor balance, mild tremors, and mild speech difficulty. Currently, I am about a year or two from a wheel chair.

Another issue I have is cardiomyopathy with an ejection fraction in the mid 30’s (normal 55-60). I’ve read that about 80% of cardio cells are now considered “cardio-neuron” cells. That being the case, I believe the HCG will also strengthen my heart muscles to fully contract. An increase of my ejection fraction would indicate HCG improves the neuro to muscle signaling; making muscles stronger.

I have decided to use HCG to hopefully reverse my ataxia, but was concerned about “desensitizing” the Leydig Cells. A big Thank You to Dr. Michael Scally for exposing this as a myth, using published reports and Dr. Scally’s own clinical experience. I remember reading years ago that taking large doses of any hormone may cause a temporary receptor resistance.

My original protocol was to use 2,000iu every other day, but will follow Dr. Scally’s recommendation of every 3-4 days for about 3 months.

In addition, I will take 15mg of zinc w/1mg copper twice a day to reduce testosterone conversion to estrogens and increase DHT (for sexual performance, I’m 64 years old).

Also, 750mg of a quality stinging nettle root extract, which is good for the above plus supposedly beneficial for the prostate and hair.

Hopefully I can start in a couple weeks. I will update this thread to report my “ataxia reversal” progress.

The bottom line? HCG may prevent and even reverse many neurological problems and even cardiomyopathy, as well as many other “incurables”.

Are you joking!

Case studies (in which the damn details of the injured patient is overlooked, Blogs, forums boards, self help web sites used by advertisers to promote product sales are NOT EVIDENCE.

Your HCG studies are pure BUNK fella! Crap not even GH has proven efficacious in neurodegenerative disorders.
 
Subbed, I hope this works for you. I am now pondering whether to tell my friend who was paralyzed in a motorcycle accident and has seem to have lost all hope of ever walking

The only thing worse than no hope is instilling false hope onto those who have accepted their disability and have learned to live with it.

Why do people believe ONE or TWO quacks, whom are always selling something from seminars to supplements, have found the "cure" for what ills them.

There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE HCG is of ANY benefit for neurological conditions.

Want some straightforward evidence?

Investigate whether PREGNANT patients with neurological disorders demonstrated an OBJECTIVE improvement having been exposed to HCG with levels bt 50,000-100000 mIU/L for months.

The list includes those whom suffer from MS, traumatic paralysis, ALS, etc, and a variety of peripheral nerve conditions........ they HAVE NOT!
 
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I respect and appreciate Doc Scally and Doc Jim for their continued participation across Meso.

I also respect and appreciate any man who refuses to let anybody else tell him what he is, or is not, capable of. I'd rather see a man try and fail, than not to try at all. I understand the docs not wanting OP to instill false hope in others. But even greater than my understanding for the docs, is my hope that more men and women would try to take charge and take action over their physical and emotional limitations.

What is of greater value to OP? Throwing his hands up and letting someone else dictate what he might accomplish? Or keeping hope alive that somewhere, somehow, he will regain that very most precious and most overlooked and underappreciated gift that life has to offer - physical and emotional health?

Now I will say that for the scumbags that are knowing ripping people off and instilling false hope in an attempt to gain financial profit off of sick people's ailments, you deserve to get ran over by the same bus 25 times, hopefully with me driving, and a bus full of victims of your fraud sitting behind me.

But for the guy that refuses to accept his condition and try nothing, well... I'd rather die trying, than to not try and die anyways.
 
Your comparing apples to oranges Bickel. No one has suggested people should not pursue a cure for their condition, but there comes a time when the belief a medical miracle is just around the corner only results in desperation, despair and in some instances suicide.

False hope propagates the latter especially in those whom are paralyzed bc although some progress has been made in the development of drugs for certain neurodegenerative disorders such as MS, effective therapy as a means of reversing pre-existing paralysis approximates zippo, and that includes BS such as HCG.

Heck why stop at HCG some have even suggested Vitamin E, Zinc, Gold salts, electro stimulation etc, etc, etc can be of benefit to the paralysed patient.

Yet for every "cure" there is some quack collecting funds for unproven therapies, bc insurance companies rightfully won't pay for something that is untested.

So what we end up with is a POOR paralyzed patient!
 
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Now days with all the "lawsuits" being thrown around for the next "payday" for some of those Jackass' that choose not to work-Society has made it where optimism and false hopes are taboo in the Medical Field, If a doctor doesn't inform you of the realistic negatives than He can be sued. When its all said and done , The doctor has to cover his ass to the point where he is having to prepare you for the worse, more so, than helping you hope for the best. And with most treatments and recovery- its mental, physical and spiritual. ..So with 2 strikes against a patient out the box, Recovery will be hindered to say the least.. . ..
........... Without Hope we are all suicidal.. ....With Hope miracles do happen....
 
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