hi Guys
(apologies in advance for the length of post, but trying to get all relevant info down!)
After a bit of advice/input/help regarding quitting TRT.
I had pre TRT I had Test levels of 19.07 nmol/L and Oestradiol of 140 pmol/L, due to my symptoms the consultand felt that i was not responding to my natural test and recomended TRT of 125mg sustanon via weekly im injection, no HCG and no AI etc. After sticking to this protocol for a year, and discussing with my consultant I am stopping as fed up of feeling like crap! Anxiety through the roof, and foggy feeling and really looking to try life off the Sustanon for a while, without the needles!
So pretty determined to give it a go again without TRT, maybe i will regret this- but also think i will regret not trying.
Questions: PCT, my consultant who is extremely hesitant in giving me any Arimidex or Nolva (which were my preference for PCT). His rational being that they are both very strong drugs that he would only recomend if required, and we can always introduce them as symptoms appear-and as I seem fine now there is no need at present.
I understand his thought process to a point, although I was of course hoping for ‘preventative’ pct, rather than ‘cure’ if that makes sense.
NB, Bloods below were taken on 16th Jan - date of my last 125mg injection:
FSH 0.2 mIU/mL range 0.95 - 11.95
LH 0.1 mIU/mL 1.14 - 8.75
Oestradiol 140 pmol/L 40 -160
Testosterone 32.5 nmol/L 9.00 - 30.00
SHBG 23 nmol/L 18 -50
Free Androgen 140.9 25 -130
Globin 35 g/L 18 -34
TSH 1.81 uIU/mL 0.35 - 4.94
Haemoglobin 169 g/L 135 - 180
Red Blood Cells 5.82 x10^12/L 4.5 - 5.5
Haematocrit 0.500 0.40 -0.50
Was recomended to look at Thyroid/body temp which i looked at first thing in morning
97.1 & 97.4 F so i am guessing this is a little low and currently supplimenting with iodine to help this.
Now 3 weeks from my last 125mg sustanon injection.
7 days from starting 1x 75mg aspirin (all per day)
1x Iodine 18.75mg & Potassium iodide 37.55mg
Fish oil
Vit D3 125 mcg
Grapeseed extract 4000mg
Anyhow, in general feeling a lot better than when I was on TRT/sustanon, no anxiety, infact a feeling of general well being and peace, no drop off in libido (although I do realize some of the sustanon will probalby still be in my system at 3 weeks??) and still getting morning wood.
So all good so far, just playing ‘wait and see’ at the moment.
Any thoughts on when I should feel the full effects of coming off TRT?
Any ideas on PCT help? onything over the counter or is is basically Nolva/Arimidex?
When should my body start to produce its own test/sperm etc?
and at what points should I get bloods to confirm progress?
Thanks for any input guys
(apologies in advance for the length of post, but trying to get all relevant info down!)
After a bit of advice/input/help regarding quitting TRT.
I had pre TRT I had Test levels of 19.07 nmol/L and Oestradiol of 140 pmol/L, due to my symptoms the consultand felt that i was not responding to my natural test and recomended TRT of 125mg sustanon via weekly im injection, no HCG and no AI etc. After sticking to this protocol for a year, and discussing with my consultant I am stopping as fed up of feeling like crap! Anxiety through the roof, and foggy feeling and really looking to try life off the Sustanon for a while, without the needles!
So pretty determined to give it a go again without TRT, maybe i will regret this- but also think i will regret not trying.
Questions: PCT, my consultant who is extremely hesitant in giving me any Arimidex or Nolva (which were my preference for PCT). His rational being that they are both very strong drugs that he would only recomend if required, and we can always introduce them as symptoms appear-and as I seem fine now there is no need at present.
I understand his thought process to a point, although I was of course hoping for ‘preventative’ pct, rather than ‘cure’ if that makes sense.
NB, Bloods below were taken on 16th Jan - date of my last 125mg injection:
FSH 0.2 mIU/mL range 0.95 - 11.95
LH 0.1 mIU/mL 1.14 - 8.75
Oestradiol 140 pmol/L 40 -160
Testosterone 32.5 nmol/L 9.00 - 30.00
SHBG 23 nmol/L 18 -50
Free Androgen 140.9 25 -130
Globin 35 g/L 18 -34
TSH 1.81 uIU/mL 0.35 - 4.94
Haemoglobin 169 g/L 135 - 180
Red Blood Cells 5.82 x10^12/L 4.5 - 5.5
Haematocrit 0.500 0.40 -0.50
Was recomended to look at Thyroid/body temp which i looked at first thing in morning
97.1 & 97.4 F so i am guessing this is a little low and currently supplimenting with iodine to help this.
Now 3 weeks from my last 125mg sustanon injection.
7 days from starting 1x 75mg aspirin (all per day)
1x Iodine 18.75mg & Potassium iodide 37.55mg
Fish oil
Vit D3 125 mcg
Grapeseed extract 4000mg
Anyhow, in general feeling a lot better than when I was on TRT/sustanon, no anxiety, infact a feeling of general well being and peace, no drop off in libido (although I do realize some of the sustanon will probalby still be in my system at 3 weeks??) and still getting morning wood.
So all good so far, just playing ‘wait and see’ at the moment.
Any thoughts on when I should feel the full effects of coming off TRT?
Any ideas on PCT help? onything over the counter or is is basically Nolva/Arimidex?
When should my body start to produce its own test/sperm etc?
and at what points should I get bloods to confirm progress?
Thanks for any input guys