HELP!!!Shins and Back pumps

Watch out for tendon irritation on winstrol

As for cramps in general, potassium and calcium are supposed to help. They did for me at least. Got loads of them on amazon for like 4 dollars lol. If only amazon carried pct supplies... and orals... and test..
 
These are pretty common problems with many orals. Your not gonna like it, but usually the simplest and most beneficial solution to these problems is discontinue the source of issues. You aren't getting paid to use and they're hurting rather than helping your performance by your own admission. So what's the point and is it really worth it? Or just throw more gear at the problem. Maybe introduce new problems, or maybe everything works out. Who knows?
 
Think of a horse

When a trainer wants a horse to perform for a race, they give it:

Tren
Eq
Winstrol

Tren = strength
Eq = lean muscle gain, less side effects
Winstrol = speed, etc, etc, etc,

Take those same 3 compounds and add test p. Now your cooking with grease. The bad part about the stack is Eq stays in the system entirely too long. Now you can choose a shorter ester boldelone, but your asking for pip due to the ester.

Electrolytes...

If you're drinking as much water as you're saying or should be, your piss in & sweating out a lot of electrolytes..

Do this:
Get some pedialyte, bcaa, potassium, and beta alanine. All this is cheap, no more than $50. Get off that anavar and get some winny. Look into some peptides for off season healing and bulking when the time comes


This is some of the worse advise I've seen for an athlete...

First off running winny at BB doses is crying for injury to an athlete. There are better things to take now days

Second tren? Really? He needs his endurance plus the sides and stress (sweating not sleeping...etc") is going to take a huge toll to a professional athlete which im assuming why he wants to use to be the best at his sport....

Third EQ was. Good recommendation. Not knowing if he is going to be drug tested needs to be ask as eq has a decent detection time and need to be ran for a longer period of time to see results he is looking for....

And last be not least.... Best thing would be to drop the var or run a lower dose and see if sides subside... You can also drink Gatorade before workout or pedialyte (not to much) to get your electrolyte balances.... Also glutamine before works wonders for pumps
 
This is some of the worse advise I've seen for an athlete...

First off running winny at BB doses is crying for injury to an athlete. There are better things to take now days

Second tren? Really? He needs his endurance plus the sides and stress (sweating not sleeping...etc") is going to take a huge toll to a professional athlete which im assuming why he wants to use to be the best at his sport....

Third EQ was. Good recommendation. Not knowing if he is going to be drug tested needs to be ask as eq has a decent detection time and need to be ran for a longer period of time to see results he is looking for....

And last be not least.... Best thing would be to drop the var or run a lower dose and see if sides subside... You can also drink Gatorade before workout or pedialyte (not to much) to get your electrolyte balances.... Also glutamine before works wonders for pumps


Worst advice? I've played ball at the highest level. This is what my teams physician pescribed to those who chose to go this route. Did I go this route? Yes. Did it make me bigger, faster, stronger? Yes.

If you knew about sports and peds usage, you'd know this was the baseline for peds in football. You'd know these peds are cycled for a short time. You also know that these peds were used for horses who competed in the derby. You'd know........

Tren in low dosage has little effects on cardio.

Winny usage in football is nothing like the usage in bb. We didn't use it for as long as you would a bb. Ped cycles are shorter in sports.
 
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I'm new here, so what for what this is worth. Just trying to help. Taurine can be dosed at a higher level if you want to try it. It is used a lot successfully for back pumps. Starting does is 500-1000mgs. Might want to do a quick research on higher doses. The car, I would drop to 40...
 
I'm new here, so what for what this is worth. Just trying to help. Taurine can be dosed at a higher level if you want to try it. It is used a lot successfully for back pumps. Starting does is 500-1000mgs. Might want to do a quick research on higher doses. The car, I would drop to 40...
Taurine helps with cramps. It's the amino acid associated with potassium and sodium diffusing across the cell membrane in nerve cells.... I dont see how it would help with pumps... cramps yes
 
Think of a horse

When a trainer wants a horse to perform for a race, they give it:

Tren
Eq
Winstrol

Tren = strength
Eq = lean muscle gain, less side effects
Winstrol = speed, etc, etc, etc,

Take those same 3 compounds and add test p. Now your cooking with grease. The bad part about the stack is Eq stays in the system entirely too long. Now you can choose a shorter ester boldelone, but your asking for pip due to the ester.

Electrolytes...

If you're drinking as much water as you're saying or should be, your piss in & sweating out a lot of electrolytes..

Do this:
Get some pedialyte, bcaa, potassium, and beta alanine. All this is cheap, no more than $50. Get off that anavar and get some winny. Look into some peptides for off season healing and bulking when the time comes
This is why you are the man Big MG;):cool:
 
Worst advice? I've played ball at the highest level. This is what my teams physician pescribed to those who chose to go this route. Did I go this route? Yes. Did it make me bigger, faster, stronger? Yes.

If you knew about sports and peds usage, you'd know this was the baseline for peds in football. You'd know these peds are cycled for a short time. You also know that these peds were used for horses who competed in the derby. You'd know........

Tren in low dosage has little effects on cardio.

Winny usage in football is nothing like the usage in bb. We didn't use it for as long as you would a bb. Ped cycles are shorter in sports.

Not that it is particularly relevant but I'm extremely well versed it horse racing. Winstrol and EQ were both legal to use and not tested for up until about 5 years ago. I knew certain trainers who used one or the other but not both on every horse in the barn. Other trainers were much more selective using one or the other when a horse wasn't cleaning up the feet tub or was getting a bit thin. Tren has been tested for in racing for decades and I've never known any trainer to use it. I'm sure some may have tried it but none I have known and I personally know many trainers who have had horses in the Kentucky Derby.

Tren, Winstrol and EQ could be a stack in football I don't know but it is definitely not, nor has it ever been a stack in horse racing.
 
Taurine helps with cramps. It's the amino acid associated with potassium and sodium diffusing across the cell membrane in nerve cells.... I dont see how it would help with pumps... cramps yes

Sorry, I've read some articles where guys were using it when on Havoc. They all had one commons issue. Bad back and calf pumps. Just trying to help, but thanks for the info.
 
Sorry, I've read some articles where guys were using it when on Havoc. They all had one commons issue. Bad back and calf pumps. Just trying to help, but thanks for the info.
Then their is no pleasing you...Austin powers an fazzzah bahaha
 
I get the same feeling mostly one side it makes you feel like a stroke is happened to you're calve. Even anadrol did this .
They both do this back and calf .lower dose in half .now my legs also use to hurt from water retention i was on to high test and dbol. Now I only do all other orals but sides dbol. But back to advise I slowly built up tolerance to pumps.
Try this instead of twice a day try once IG that don't help lower dose. Then like other suggestions stop if needed

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