Homebrew effectiveness?

[Obeast88]

Well been questioning just brewing my own for a while now and for a few friends and acquaintances. With the price of oils these days from a few vendors is it cost effective ba just buying them and refitting the finished oils already. Or is it just a hobby to most you all now and do it for the process experience and fun. Really want to pull the gun on brewing small 500-1000ml batches just to have on hand for us but the cheap price of all finished products these days have kind of turned me away thus far. I think it would be an enjoyable process plus the fact you know what’s in every bottle for sure. What would you say it is costing to make a bottle of test, sus, deca, tren, mast and so on including the raws, sterile bottles plunger, and caps(everything excluding the decent equipment). Thanks for any input.

 

[DECLAN]

I was just writing you my thoughts.
Obviously it's not about you.....
It was more in response to other stuff that has been written in homebrewing posts that I have seen, recently

Oh sorry lol. As you can see, I am slow maybe I need a peptide for noticing the obvious hahaha.

Anyway, yeah people have weird outlooks on home brewing, obviously I started it to save because of the huge mark ups back then. Nowadays, where prices are very competitive because of our Chinese friends, people can just buy kits of everything like candies.

 

[Obeast88]

@Obeast88 you should have a look at @dirthand 's brew log.
He has recently started doing it and it looks fab.
He would certainly be able to tell you about his personal experience and opinion.
I think that if you train, use different compounds and you plan on keep doing so in the future, it would be worth it.
But the time and effort it would require also need to be considered.
You have to be able to keep things super neat.

Thanks I will look into it. I just seen the thread earlier today and almost clinked the link lol. I def want to do it more so than not but everything plays a factor like other members mentioned. Anonymity is a huge one in a house full of children that don’t need to see nor hear. I want it to be clean and sterile as can be if I’m to do it also so they’re just a lot of variables I’m having to take into account if I really want to succeed. But I’m taking the precautions I need to do so just incase and going to acquire the right equipment that I feel will be suitable for a nice setup after reading through a lot of threads.

 

[jp4355]

If you are Brewing just for your own consumption.
Why not get the 50 Ml. Vials, instead of the 10 Ml.

I used to brew just for myself, and I used the 50 Ml. Vials.
For me personally, it made things easier.
Just a thought..................... JP

 

[Obeast88]

If you are Brewing just for your own consumption.
Why not get the 50 Ml. Vials, instead of the 10 Ml.

I used to brew just for myself, and I used the 50 Ml. Vials.
For me personally, it made things easier.
Just a thought..................... JP

Yeah I didn’t think about that I could just do a few of those at a time. But how long do the stoppers last having to poke it that many times?

 

[jp4355]

Yeah I didn’t think about that I could just do a few of those at a time. But how long do the stoppers last having to poke it that many times?

It depends on the size of the Needle you put through the Stopper.
I don't use anything larger than a 25 G to fill my syringe.
So, I've never had an issue with the Stopper breaking and creating floaters.
Some guys use a Garden Hose, like 23 G and that will bust up your stopper fast............... JP

 

[dirthand]

Yeah I didn’t think about that I could just do a few of those at a time. But how long do the stoppers last having to poke it that many times?

its my opinion that a 100ml media bottle with a open top lid and a silicone septa is where it is at. then draw out of that into a 10 or 20 ml sterile vial for daily use. the 50ml vials are just to big for daily use in my opinion but if you dont mind the bigger bottle you can use a vial spike adapter and then you do not have to worry about draw needles.

 

[DECLAN]

It depends on the size of the Needle you put through the Stopper.
I don't use anything larger than a 25 G to fill my syringe.
So, I've never had an issue with the Stopper breaking and creating floaters.
Some guys use a Garden Hose, like 23 G and that will bust up your stopper fast............... JP

I used to create floaters since I’m impatient and use 20g. But since I started backloading my pins, I finish a bottle without poking it 20x now lol.

 

[Obeast88]

its my opinion that a 100ml media bottle with a open top lid and a silicone septa is where it is at. then draw out of that into a 10 or 20 ml sterile vial for daily use. the 50ml vials are just to big for daily use in my opinion but if you dont mind the bigger bottle you can use a vial spike adapter and then you do not have to worry about draw needles.View attachment 290566

Ohhh ok thanks for that I haven’t seen that until now. Yeah I might do the 100 ml then. Get a few of them each for did compounds. I still need the smaller for friends so probably use 20 ml bottles for them. I’m just trying to get everything I need. I’m your thread so you have a picture of your setup. If not don’t mind sharing it with me here or in private if you don’t want to post. And could you name all the equipment so I can make sure if I want to order the same type of setup. It’s been awhile since I’ve messed with any of this so any help would be great.

 

[iris]

Ohhh ok thanks for that I haven’t seen that until now. Yeah I might do the 100 ml then. Get a few of them each for did compounds. I still need the smaller for friends so probably use 20 ml bottles for them. I’m just trying to get everything I need. I’m your thread so you have a picture of your setup. If not don’t mind sharing it with me here or in private if you don’t want to post. And could you name all the equipment so I can make sure if I want to order the same type of setup. It’s been awhile since I’ve messed with any of this so any help would be great.

So, have you decided to do it?
Have you got a space where it is feasible?

 

[dirthand]

Ohhh ok thanks for that I haven’t seen that until now. Yeah I might do the 100 ml then. Get a few of them each for did compounds. I still need the smaller for friends so probably use 20 ml bottles for them. I’m just trying to get everything I need. I’m your thread so you have a picture of your setup. If not don’t mind sharing it with me here or in private if you don’t want to post. And could you name all the equipment so I can make sure if I want to order the same type of setup. It’s been awhile since I’ve messed with any of this so any help would be great.

I don't mind..

 

[Para_33]

Yes very true but those costs were included in the $150 price that @nightprowler7 gave.
Since 100 grams of Test only costs $80 so the price remains the same minus the hour or two of time. So still 300% cheaper than QSC and QSC gear absolutely should be filtered and put in better quality vials with better quality stoppers that don’t leave floaters
So add the sterile vials and filters and syringe to the QSC price and now your looking at 500% more plus you e invested very close to the same time it takes to brew lol
So yes absolutely is a huge savings no matter how you look at it

With QSC, I’ve wondered how good quality their raws are. I wish I knew more about the Jano testing process because many of the popular raws are “96%+”. So it’s like what’s left in that remaining 4% is what has me wanting to brew.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

With QSC, I’ve wondered how good quality their raws are. I wish I knew more about the Jano testing process because many of the popular raws are “96%+”. So it’s like what’s left in that remaining 4% is what has me wanting to brew.

You have been buying UGL for years.

Have you ever seen raw testing from any UGL with 100% purity?

If you use the popular anabolics they typically test well.

main ones that do not test 96%+ are. (This is not excluding the "Exotic" ones)

EQ
Bold C
Bold U
Anadrol is a little weird.
DECA

 

[Para_33]

You have been buying UGL for years.

Have you ever seen raw testing from any UGL with 100% purity?

If you use the popular anabolics they typically test well.

main ones that do not test 96%+ are. (This is not excluding the "Exotic" ones)

EQ
Bold C
Bold U
Anadrol is a little weird.
DECA

My b, I’m somewhat confused by your wording.

When you say the “main ones that do not test 96%+” , do you mean that these often test below 96%+? Or above 96%+?

are you saying that eq,bold,
C, anadrol, deca they have special characteristics that cause them to test abnormally low and only score 96% + ?

Are you also saying the exotics also have this same quality where they test lower than other raws ?



Is there some reason you know of that causes these raws to test lower ?
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Ultimately what you say makes sense, I know it’s not usually the case where anything tests at 100% or even 99.9. That’s just part of manufacturing and testing tolerance etc.

However I’ve also heard anecdotally from 1 person that their raws from QSC don’t go into solution and crash at the same concentration which the same raw from another supplier stays in solution without issue. I get this is only 1 person’s experience, and since I haven’t done a brew myself, maybe there is some logical reason for this that I’m overlooking- or maybe doesn’t indicate anything negative at all. But to me at my level of experience ( minimal) it sounds to be not ideal that 400mg/ml eq crashes with the same recipe that another raw supplier holds without issue.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

When you say the “main ones that do not test 96%+” , do you mean that these often test below 96%+? Or above 96%+?

DECA, EQ, may test between 90-96% which can be expected

Are you also saying the exotics also have this same quality where they test lower than other raws ?

Bold C has tested around 55% from multiple sources

Is there some reason you know of that causes these raws to test lower ?

Anadrol may hold water content which may throw it off. @janoshik has done a experiment on it

However I’ve also heard anecdotally from 1 person that their raws from QSC don’t go into solution and crash at the same concentration which the same raw from another supplier stays in solution without issue. I get this is only 1 person’s experience, and since I haven’t done a brew myself, maybe there is some logical reason for this that I’m overlooking- or maybe doesn’t indicate anything negative at all. But to me at my level of experience ( minimal) it sounds to be not ideal that 400mg/ml eq crashes with the same recipe that another raw supplier holds without issue.

never seen that. I used QSC and BST raws very regularly. never had an issue from one to another.

EQ is liquid, so I am unsure how it would crash.