How does this LIGHT DNP cycle look?

[kilsong]

This is my first DNP cycle. Have 50 mg DNP caps on hand.
Currently on Tren Ace 75mg EOD and Test 150mg per week.

Age:46
Height: 6'4
Weight: 255 lbs
Unknown bodyfat %--but below 15% but I'm in shape with medium visual abs.
Extremely vascular.

I know everybody says to start at 200mg per day to assess tolerance, but I'm starting at 100mg.

Day 1-100mg
Day 2-100mg
Day 3-100mg

IF its I haven't had an allergic reaction, day 4 forward looks as follows:

Day 4-200mg
Day 5-200mg
Day 6-200mg

IF all is bearable, day 7 forward will look as follows:

Day 7-300mg
Day 8-300mg
Day 9-300mg
Day 10-300mg

Perhaps-300 or even 400 mg for an additional 3-5 days.

I'll be applying standard precautions with supplements and high water intake.

Suggestions? Comments? Concerns?

 

[MrRippedZilla]

This has been discussed endlessly with mine, Doc's, CBS' and Jim's views seen here: Think DNP Can Be Used Safely? Think Again

Reading through that thread will make it abundantly clear why re-igniting the topic is a giant waste of time since nothing has changed (views or evidence).

 

[Docd187123]

It would look like cheddar CHEESE.

How could you do this to me????? I thought we were amigos till the end. I'll never be able to look at DNP sprinkled omlettes the same again

 

[Dr JIM]

No one said you're not entitled to your opinion. You said dnp can be used safely. I asked you how and you won't answer. That's avoiding the question.

It seems "safely" is defined by GG as the development of adverse effects that don't put folk in the hospital.

And she's already posited how this could be accomplished by DNP users carrying around a thermometer.

Ok great but HOW is this information to be used on an objective basis?

Are they to obtain core rectal temps? Or will oral temps suffice
knowing the degree of inaccuracy in dehydrated patients?

How often should temps be taken?

Like is a temp of 100.4 OK?

Or what approach should folk pursue if their temp hits 102.

Should they "wait" a while and stop DNP or is a ED visit needed?

What are they to tell the hospital staff the TRUTH "I'm using DNP"?

These are ALL quite relevant issues that should be addressed on an individual basis BEFOREHAND informing others "DNP can be used safely".

However there is next to no scientific evidence DNP can be used safely from a medical perspective, AND that's why it was removed from the "pharm" market in the 1950s and recategorized as a poison.

The notion NOOBS wanting to experiment with DNP can be guided thru its side effect morass by being informed "just monitor your temp" without KNOWING their PMH, current med list, TBW %BF etc, etc, etc is absurd, but IS typical of the "advice" offered on many PED forums.

Finally WHO accepts responsibility WHEN something goes awry?

 

[ddp7]

It seems "safely" is defined by GG as the development of adverse effects that don't put folk in the hospital.

And she's already posited how this could be accomplished by DNP users carrying around a thermometer.

Ok great but HOW is this information to be used on an objective basis?

Are they to obtain core rectal temps? Or will oral temps suffice
knowing the degree of inaccuracy in dehydrated patients?

How often should temps be taken?

Like is a temp of 100.4 OK?

Or what approach should folk pursue if their temp hits 102.

Should they "wait" a while and stop DNP or is a ED visit needed?

What are they to tell the hospital staff the TRUTH "I'm using DNP"?

These are ALL quite relevant issues that should be addressed on an individual basis BEFOREHAND informing others "DNP can be used safely".

However there is next to no scientific evidence DNP can be used safely from a medical perspective, AND that's why it was removed from the "pharm" market in the 1950s and recategorized as a poison.

The notion NOOBS wanting to experiment with DNP can be guided thru its side effect morass by being informed "just monitor your temp" without KNOWING their PMH, current med list, TBW %BF etc, etc, etc is absurd, but IS typical of the "advice" offered on many PED forums.

Finally WHO accepts responsibility WHEN something goes awry?

I'm sorry, Jim. You are right about the issue of responsibility. What happens is that we are debating about a substance that apparently is not commonly used(I think so), so I mistakenly believed that this issue could be subjectivized so that we can understand the gg experience.


Obviously it can not be this way.

 

[Rook2135]

Lol, im back. I bet you guys thought I died from DNP since I havent posted in a while, but I promise you im still alive. I was traveling a lil. The DNP kept me warm in 10 degree weather. ☺ So what did I miss. Oh yhea same ol bullshit.

 

[ddp7]

Lol, im back. I bet you guys thought I died from DNP since I havent posted in a while, but I promise you im still alive. I was traveling a lil. The DNP kept me warm in 10 degree weather. ☺ So what did I miss. Oh yhea same ol bullshit.

Beware of those strange trips. We need a religious fanatic to laugh a good time.

 

[Rook2135]

Beware of those strange trips. We need a religious fanatic to laugh a good time.

Wtf,? hey @ddp007 do you have anymore Lsd?? Lol.

 

[ddp7]

Wtf,? hey @ddp007 do you have anymore Lsd?? Lol.

No drugs here buddy.

Just my fucking brain.

 

[Rook2135]

No drugs here buddy.

Just my fucking brain.

Lol, no worries kid. Your cool.

 

[ddp7]

Lol, no worries kid. Your cool.

Yeah and have a nice big dick,u know.

 

[Rook2135]

Yeah and have a nice big dick,u know.

Wtf

 

[ddp7]

Wtf

Espero que no seas el alter ego de BBC3 Jaja

Goodbye fucker

 

[lukk3395]

crazy what people is willing to put on their body just because they are LAZY to diet and do their cardio...
around 15% body fat LOL you aren't even in off season shape seriously do not kill yourself and flush that DNP down the toilet.

 

[Rook2135]

crazy what people is willing to put on their body just because they are LAZY to diet and do their cardio...
around 15% body fat LOL you aren't even in off season shape seriously do not kill yourself and flush that DNP down the toilet.

Your right, its crazy how people are too lazy to lift heavy weights, eat a lot and instead they take steroids. lazy bastards. Flush all your Testosterone down the toilet, "your all gonna die" !! *dramatic music*.

 

[lukk3395]

Your right, its crazy how people are too lazy to lift heavy weights, eat a lot and instead they take steroids. lazy bastards. Flush all your Testosterone down the toilet, "your all gonna die" !! *dramatic music*.

lol you are an ignorant.
AAS and DNP are like comparing an egg and a fucking table.
DNP is super dangerous because it can literally destroy your cells AAS are a million times safer.
Honestly some winni and clen will shred you to the bone if you do shit right but if you re a lazy ass you use DNP

 

[lukk3395]

lol you are an ignorant.
AAS and DNP are like comparing an egg and a fucking table.
DNP is super dangerous because it can literally destroy your cells AAS are a million times safer.
Honestly some winni and clen will shred you to the bone if you do shit right but if you re a lazy ass you use DNP

and i mean no disrespect but 15% is supper high for off season and if you don't compete there is no reason to even consider DNP.
I am a biochemistry grad believe me

 

[JayWaWa]

Hes a big boy. He wants to run DNP at low doses let him do so without ridicule. He doesn't sound like a completely unschooled moron, so his immediate safety isn't in jeopardy as far as the facts presented lend themselves anyways.

My only concern would be your diet.

Make sure you're on about a 6-3-1 diet. Thats ~60% calories from carbs, ~30% cal from protein and ~10% cal from fat. This will maximize the thermogenic effects and help you to mobilize fat at your peak potential. You can tweak it if you need more or less protein, but just keep your fat below 10%. Also stay under 2k cal per day. If you really want to maximize your results, do intermittent fasting in 15-18hour windows and do very light but sustained cardio in your fasted state.

Your RQ will be lower on DNP so keep your heart rate on the low end of fat burning. Also dont try to go for high reps when training weights, go for heavy-ish weight with low reps (5x5 style is fine) otherwise you will feel like your suffocating at the end of a set and simply cannot catch your breath. Use intra workout carbs. About 40-60 grams will suffice for say legs day. Adjust down from there on other days.

While DNP is different for everyone, if you have legit standardized DNP tabs, you can expect to lose around a pound a day on this protocol. I have.

 

[Rook2135]

and i mean no disrespect but 15% is supper high for off season and if you don't compete there is no reason to even consider DNP.
I am a biochemistry grad believe me

Your a fucking retard and are making up shit. Post studies on your theories or shut the fuck up. You obviously didnt get the point. You saying that using dnp is lazy is retarted. one can make the same argument for steroids. I wasnt comparing the safety you fag, im saying your a little hypocrite for saying that its for lazy people, CUZ you can make the same fucking argument for steroids. Stop posting retarted shit immedietly and only post scientific evidence from now on. Nobody cares about your stupid opinion.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

I saw that you replied but forgot to read it. I'm sure it was good though. Nice profile pic.

You're the second person on Meso that I've decided to put on the ignore list, you've turned into a rabid time waster. Too bad.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

All your posts are fine and dandy but you fail to post the other stuff... yes I agree with you that it is a toxin but ironically enough, what has classified it as such is due to the side effects of being exposed to it... sweating, weight loss, etc. ..and that's the main purpose it was introduced by doctors in the first place. Doctors do make mistakes and aren't right all the time. They kill people on daily basis. Because of the findings in those factories with people who worked with it. Besides that was also the 20's and 30's where people were more or less experimented on and there was no real protocol for it. People were running insane doses yet the fatalities are really not that high considering but the dnp did it's job. It was the doctor's mistakes that caused this plus ignorant people that got in trouble with it on more recent years. That's also partly due to the lack of studies. It was easier to just brush it under the mat and never speak of it. Just tell everyone it's poison... there is risk and chance of death with most if not all other chemicals and drugs...

I'm not recommending anyone to use dnp but if they do then they better make an educated decision and be smart with it. It's a very effective compound if used right/safely and just because you think it's no good, doesn't mean it really is. That's just your bias opinion. There are just as many people who had very successful runs with it and without any problems.

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Nothing that works isn't toxic at some level of dosage.

All the strawmen people (not you) create in order to rally against what they disapprove of.

I've never tried DNP, but would consider trying it at OPs modest/careful approach. Especially now that it's about to go below freezing outside. Stay warm!