How long can you BnC without worry about infertility?

[Coop94]

On cycle at the moment and have been contemplating cruising until my next cycle this summer so I don’t have to go through pct just do it all again shortly after. 27yo and have HCG on hand but not currently implementing it. Would like to have kids in the future — but not sure what the likelihood of infertility is if I BnC for close to a year. Do I need to use HCG, or should I even be worrying about infertility if I plan to cruise for a bit?

 

[MadBret]

That's a subjective question with a different answer for different people. We don't all respond the same way.

Some guys will be able to bounce back after blasting and cruising for quite some time while others may not bounce back to natural levels even after a single cycle.

In the spirit of harm reduction, it is probably best to come off and pct if you are able to do so.

 

[Eman]

You are risking infertility, yes. But, some guys seem to have no problem... it is a gamble.

If it gives you any comfort, there are quite a few pro athletes that have fathered several kids. Ronnie Coleman comes to mind... hell, he was a sperm donor for a friend of his. Lots of the top pro strongman competitors are dads and they're well known for using a good bit of gear.

I think hcg is definitely important. Getting sperm cryo frozen is a viable insurance policy.

 

[Millard]

You are risking infertility, yes. But, some guys seem to have no problem... it is a gamble.

If it gives you any comfort, there are quite a few pro athletes that have fathered several kids. Ronnie Coleman comes to mind... hell, he was a sperm donor for a friend of his. Lots of the top pro strongman competitors are dads and they're well known for using a good bit of gear.

I think hcg is definitely important. Getting sperm cryo frozen is a viable insurance policy.

I think RC may have as many as 9 kids not including those as sperm donor, most of which he had after becoming a pro.

 

[Eman]

I think RC may have as many as 9 kids not including those as sperm donor, most of which he had after becoming a pro.

Yeah he definitely sowed some oats... I remember in his most recent documentary he had a young kid too... so he's been fathering kids in his 50's, that's relatively impressive for someone that didn't have a career that involved hormones.

He had some sort of lawsuit or something with the girl he was a donor for... I think you posted about it a while back.

 

[Ryu82]

That's a subjective question with a different answer for different people. We don't all respond the same way.

This. Some guys can sauce themselves silly without issue, while others can run 1 cycle and have issues.

 

[Alistair7]

I had zero sperm after 3 years of blasting and cruising (TRT dose) of testosterone. It has taken me two years to get my fertility back. I wasted a year and half trying to do it with just HCG. After adding HMG and FSH (I would use one or the other interchangeably) I was finally able to get my wife pregnant with (less than desirable sperm levels) due to have good sperm motility that I credit to L carnitine and maca. Unfortunately we had a miscarriage and will be trying for a baby again in the near future. FYI: I never went off TRT the entire time.

 

[MadBret]

My little brother knocked up his ex while blasting test and deca. Crazy thing is, the girl turned out to be a dirty, cheating bitch. Hopefully, his daughter is actually his daughter, though it really doesn't change anything for him at this point.

 

[Cherokee]

I think I heard the first week or so of beginning a cycle your sperm count goes up. Thats where a lot of the cases of people knocking a chic up while on steroids comes from. Then after that it becomes very hard while on them.

 

[1Megaman]

All depends on the person. I blasted through most of my 20’s stupid amounts of gear, got off can’t say I even knew what PCT was back then. Still knocked the old lady up, depends on your body. Nobody can answer this question accurately.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

Would like to have kids in the future — but not sure what the likelihood of infertility is if I BnC for close to a year.

Honestly? It doesn’t sound like you care that much. You have HCG but you’re not using it, so I’m not getting the impression that you’re truly worried about infertility.

“I’m worried about dying in a car accident, but I’m not sure if I should wear my seatbelt.”

Want an easy heuristic for steroids and fertility? Assume you will be infertile unless you actively work on maintaining it. With that in mind what would you do in order to give yourself the best chance at avoiding infertility? Once you have the answer just go ahead and do that.

 

[RussianDoggo]

I am on trt and higly doubt I'm ifertile. I call this a myth. And I don't risk my gf's to get out BPC.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

I am on trt and higly doubt I'm ifertile. I call this a myth. And I don't risk my gf's to get out BPC.

Yes, biology is a myth. That’s why men can be women. I don’t know what that last sentence is supposed to mean, but I’m sure it’s deeply insightful.

 

[Villain]

My little brother knocked up his ex while blasting test and deca. Crazy thing is, the girl turned out to be a dirty, cheating bitch. Hopefully, his daughter is actually his daughter, though it really doesn't change anything for him at this point.

So until it’s actually proven with DNA, he may not have actually knocked her up.

 

[MadBret]

So until it’s actually proven with DNA, he may not have actually knocked her up.

Sad but true. I've never heard him vocalize it but it would be hard to believe that it didn't cross his mind.