i think tren and dnp can change where the fat is being burned from, look at dave palumbo for example, its not wrinkles, he seems to not have fat deposits in his face where they should be
i think if you had your estrogen high and gained weight, the fat stored would more likely to be in your face than if your estrogen was lower.
Ive experienced this, i bulked when my estrogen was high, then cut, and i thought i had water weight in my face during my cut but it was just like actual fat from the bulk, disproportionately in my face. so my body was like 18% but my face looked like it was 40%, I had a fatter face than actual fat guys.
I had to lower my estrogen for my body to start to get rid of the facial fat.
women with high estrogen have round soft faces etc their fat is stored in a feminine way.
a good example of this is
@ThinkTrenbolone , if you look at his picture you can see very feminine birthing hips from his estrogen levels