How to increase beard growth w/o TRT & low T?

[Dr JIM]

Sadly, no. TRT has not changed my facial hair one bit.

No surprise bc facial hair distribution is generally considered GENETICALLY predetermined.



And bc the use of creams, oils, pills or any other supplement won't alter your genetic profile OP, they are a uniform waste of money IMO

 

[ErikR]

It's just the luck of the draw. I tried everything to get the grain of my beard to change. Nothing worked. You have to make do with what you have.

 

[Whoremoans]

Tren made my beard thicker. Chest, arm, and leg hair too. and I've started to develop back hair since tren as well.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Hmmm, I've always thought display of facial hair is compensating for male shortcomings. The gay scene, the metrosexuals, they all love facial hair - real men don't need it. Y M C A........

 

[Whoremoans]

Hmmm, I've always thought display of facial hair is compensating for male shortcomings. The gay scene, the metrosexuals, they all love facial hair - real men don't need it. Y M C A........

Comments like that about what "real men" do and don't need always tend to irritate me. As if you're the spokesman for real men. Some dudes want a beard. Some don't. Doesn't have shit to do with being a "real man".

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Comments like that about what "real men" do and don't need always tend to irritate me. As if you're the spokesman for real men. Some dudes want a beard. Some don't. Doesn't have shit to do with being a "real man".

Do what you like - still looks gay to me - and plain lazy.

 

[Whoremoans]

Do what you like - still looks gay to me - and plain lazy.

I don't have a beard. I can grow one but I shave. Just pointing out that everyone's opinion is different.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Comments like that about what "real men" do and don't need always tend to irritate me. As if you're the spokesman for real men. Some dudes want a beard. Some don't. Doesn't have shit to do with being a "real man".

Still though, real men should never wear flip flops. It's just not kosher.

 

[Whoremoans]

Still though, real men should never wear flip flops. It's just not kosher.

Alright I'll give you that one CBS.

 

[Rising_Falcon]

Growing a beard is all genetics. The same as how the grain grows. If you can't grow facial hair naturally , trt or any cycle will not make it grow. The only thing that I noticed being on trt or a cycle is that it grows faster. Just because is in style to have a beard everybody wants one. I find it's more work grooming my beard then shaving.

I used to shave my stash about once a month (Slow grow) Since I started trt every 3 days now. Oh and I'm getting a fucking neck beard. I'm just about 30

 

[arwold]

I'm plain old European. The type that is supposed to get male pattern baldness (which I did get from TRT) and a big beard.

I have the same facial hair distribution as you do. Small amount on the upper lip, sparse hair all over the neck, extremely sparse sideburns, and completely clean cheeks..

10 years of TRT gave me no growth whatsoever. TT up to the 1200 ng/dL level. DHT double normal. E2 kept in check with an AI (~20.)

You'll find it interesting that this particular hair distribution is the same as for women with high androgens (PCOS.) Just Google "PCOS beard" and select the image search.

Fascinating. You were on Testosterone, an aromatase inhibitor, your DHT was double normal, and you still had sparse facial hair.
So what other chemicals/messengers come into play here?

 

[James23]

Fascinating. You were on Testosterone, an aromatase inhibitor, your DHT was double normal, and you still had sparse facial hair.
So what other chemicals/messengers come into play here?

Within ghostwritten articles about "why some men can't grow facial hair," the implication is that the genetic distribution of DHT receptors is somehow lessened in these men. They go on to say that these men have a low risk of losing hair, but this is clearly bullshit. I have typical male pattern androgenetic alopecia and a rather regular distribution of chest hair.

However, we could assume that the DHT receptor deficiency is limited somehow to only these specific hair follicles. It's certainly possible, as the hair around the edges of most males scalp is also fully DHT agnostic, which is why successfully transplanted hair sticks around for a lifetime and why men typically lose hair only on the top of their head and not the sides.

Then again, if the follicles aren't receptive to DHT, why do I have any facial hair at all? Why would it come in sparsely when, normally, DHT sensitivity is localized to an area of hair follicles uniformly; not speckled randomly to, say, every Nth hair follicle.

My particular hormonal anomaly is a deficiency of SHBG. Women with PCOS also have an SHBG deficiency along with their high androgens. Delivery of DHT to tissue and/or activation of the DHT signaling pathway (via contribution from SHBG-R, the cellular SHBG receptor) could come into play.

Here's a horrifying image of what a PCOS beard looks like. Her androgens are high, but only the bottom of her face grows hair:

 

[Raven101]

I can shave twice per day, its a pain. Facial hair is all about GENETICS. Im Italian so i have thick facial hair.
If you dont have the genetics for thick facial hair, Testosterone isnt going to help.
It will make pre existing hairs grow faster but not new hair.

 

[Mc15]

I'm 22 and have no chest/back hair. I have to shave my face once every month or two


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[Tyler81]

Sadly, no. TRT has not changed my facial hair one bit.

Mine either.

 

[Tyler81]

Although TRT made me grow more back hair which is undesirable.

 

[James23]

Although TRT made me grow more back hair which is undesirable.

Same here. I'm also now growing it on my inner forearms.


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