how to make transdermal testosterone?

[ripriot]

Yeah but he followed that up immediately with how high the concentration can be.

Anyways, this thread is kind of fucked... But I made a batch this week and have to say, was pretty impressive compared to test base injectable. 100mg per ml of DMSO gel works great. Really hit hard... I don't know if I'll bother with the hassle of injectable test base anymore, this is easier by far and works faster.

Fuck that. Injetion is superior to any transdermal (when your talking about your popular hormones.)

 

[ripriot]

How about you figure it out yourself.
How about I already gave away a great discovery that is going to change the way you do trt and you can trial and error by yourself.
How about you be a little grateful for whatever info I gave you and don't be a little greedy brat

Grateful for what. Some shit I can read on http://www.basskilleronline.com (www.basskilleronline.com)

 

[ripriot]

@Eman @Ryan owen

I feel sorry for your comprehension skills.
There is really nothing difficult to understand about a two ingredient recipe.
The aggressivity with which you answer denotes of high frustration, I hope you figure out what frustrates you and that it enables you to not lash out on people who are completely external to your own problems.

If you post something make sure it's correct if your going to be a little bitch about having a conversation...

 

[Eman]

Fuck that. Injetion is superior to any transdermal (when your talking about your popular hormones.)

What makes it superior?

 

[Gbro]

Lets see you expain it in detail please?

Did you skip math class?

I wanted to make six cookies, but the recipe only explains how to make 12. What do manly men of meso?

 

[ripriot]

What makes it superior?

1. Your body gets nutrients more efficient if they bypass the dermal later.
2.injection of medicine is normally 2-3 times the absorption rate of transdermals
3. The fastest way to blood stream is injection, snorting, smoking, rectal, & transdermals.
4. The bioavailability of an injection compared to a transdermals is superior For the same reason why Lasix is more efficient when injected then taken by pill.
5. for same reason why doctors use IV compared to rubbing a transdermals on you.

6. shall I go on.

 

[ripriot]

Did you skip math class?

I wanted to make six cookies, but the recipe only explains how to make 12. What do manly men of meso?

obviously I don’t eat cookies like your skinny ass avatar.

 

[Gbro]

obviously I don’t eat cookies like your skinny ass avatar.

I worked really hard to get this physique. Thanks for crapping on me.

 

[Eman]

1. Your body gets nutrients more efficient if they bypass the dermal later.
2.injection of medicine is normally 2-3 times the absorption rate of transdermals
3. The fastest way to blood stream is injection, snorting, smoking, rectal, & transdermals.
4. The bioavailability of an injection compared to a transdermals is superior For the same reason why Lasix is more efficient when injected then taken by pill.
5. for same reason why doctors use IV compared to rubbing a transdermals on you.

6. shall I go on.

Lol, no... You needn't go on.

However, injections are not universally superior. For one, this type of transdermal was faster. Two, the convenience factor of it was superior to injectable. Don't really know what else to say other than maybe you should try it before you make blanket statements.

Overall, I agree with you... Injectables are better for most things.

 

[FlyGuy3232]

Ya I tried Test base in DMSO and it hit hard and fast. good stuff.

I'll do bloodwork sometime when I'm patient enough to stay on it for a month or two and let the long esters wash out.

 

[FlyGuy3232]

1. Your body gets nutrients more efficient if they bypass the dermal later.
2.injection of medicine is normally 2-3 times the absorption rate of transdermals
3. The fastest way to blood stream is injection, snorting, smoking, rectal, & transdermals.
4. The bioavailability of an injection compared to a transdermals is superior For the same reason why Lasix is more efficient when injected then taken by pill.
5. for same reason why doctors use IV compared to rubbing a transdermals on you.

6. shall I go on.

TBH most of what you said doesn't really make sense.

1: in many cases, not all. It often does so differently which can be useful.

2: in many cases, not all. DMSO with test base is likely absorbed at a high enough rate to not really make much difference. Especially when you consider that it isn't weighed down by an ester so you're probably getting a very similar amount of T molecules absorbed in total.

4: see 1

5: this has nothing to do with why doctors use an IV. An IV serves a very different purpose in most cases.

You're going to have a hard time drawing lines that one method is always better than another when there are multiple factors and you don't seem to understand how well DMSO works as a delivery mechanism.

It is far more effective than compounded creams that pharmacies use at absorbing into the bloodstream. This is why many people add DMSO to compounded creams which I've heard from several people have doubled their T levels on the same dose.

 

[Dthcore]

I wonder how much this shit is actually being absorbed with the DMSO as the carrier. It’s crazy we don’t know the exact numbers. If we did it could potentially be a game changer.

Easier to calculate TRT dosages with it/cycles.

 

[FlyGuy3232]

I wonder how much this shit is actually being absorbed with the DMSO as the carrier. It’s crazy we don’t know the exact numbers. If we did it could potentially be a game changer.

Easier to calculate TRT dosages with it/cycles.

I think the only way is to find out for yourself with bloodwork on this alone.

 

[Wonderman]

No other eaters on the test, just base. Or possibly ace. The esters like cyp or e on the hormone make it too big to get absorbed through the skin. Look up molecular weight in Daltons. The compound has to be under 400, preferably 300 iirc, to pass through the skin in any carrier.

Here is a basic recipe I plan on trying soon: 22ml isopropyl alcohol, 6ml DMSO, and 3g test base. ISO based hand sanitizer may work. Should make 30 ml at 100mg/ml if it will hold at that concentration. I have had the carrier Salvo hold at that strength. Make sure to rotate application sites to minimize irritation and moisturize once the area is completely dry.

Fuq yea brother. What about sust powder?

 

[ripriot]

Lol, no... You needn't go on.

However, injections are not universally superior. For one, this type of transdermal was faster. Two, the convenience factor of it was superior to injectable. Don't really know what else to say other than maybe you should try it before you make blanket statements.

Overall, I agree with you... Injectables are better for most things.

If this transdermal is faster then show proof. If transdermals were so fast why aren't drug dealers selling them. Because injection is always faster and more powerful. No transdermal has been proven to show the effectivness as an injection or IV.

 

[ripriot]

TBH most of what you said doesn't really make sense.

1: in many cases, not all. It often does so differently which can be useful.

2: in many cases, not all. DMSO with test base is likely absorbed at a high enough rate to not really make much difference. Especially when you consider that it isn't weighed down by an ester so you're probably getting a very similar amount of T molecules absorbed in total.

4: see 1

5: this has nothing to do with why doctors use an IV. An IV serves a very different purpose in most cases.

You're going to have a hard time drawing lines that one method is always better than another when there are multiple factors and you don't seem to understand how well DMSO works as a delivery mechanism.

It is far more effective than compounded creams that pharmacies use at absorbing into the bloodstream. This is why many people add

DMSO to compounded creams which I've heard from several people have doubled their T levels on the same dose.

1. Unless you have a skin irritation, a specific spot, then injection will always make nutrients more available.


2. If transdermal are more efficient then why don't drug dealers sell them for their products. Because injections are far more efficient then skin creams.


3. you skipped.


4. Lasix isn't available in cream. Probably because it doesn't work as well.


5. Of course it's for some different purposes but if transdermal’s worked so well then, they would be used more often.


6. You don't think that DMSO is added to compounded creams? The doctors use it for more than for a transdermal.


7. The only thing I need to know is that I get more mg of any compound in injection then I do compare to a transdermal. Even if it has DMSO in it.


8. I posted a link of F&Q that says to add DMSO to their compounding cream.

9. I’ve disproved goingstronger on DMSO absorption rate.

10. For bodybuilding injection is always better then transdermal unless the cream is to supplement

11. Please tell me what I don’t understand?...

 

[Dthcore]

If this transdermal is faster then show proof. If transdermals were so fast why aren't drug dealers selling them. Because injection is always faster and more powerful. No transdermal has been proven to show the effectivness as an injection or IV.

But the thing is that it doesn’t have an Ester attached. It could very well work as fast as being claimed. That completely changes everything.

 

[ripriot]

But the thing is that it doesn’t have an Ester attached. It could very well work as fast as being claimed. That completely changes everything.

yes transdermals can work fast with high concentration of DMSO. Not as fast and strong as injections. Period

 

[Dthcore]

yes transdermals can work fast with high concentration of DMSO. Not as fast and strong as injections. Period

Maybe as fast or faster? But not as strong?

 

[Eman]

If this transdermal is faster then show proof. If transdermals were so fast why aren't drug dealers selling them. Because injection is always faster and more powerful. No transdermal has been proven to show the effectivness as an injection or IV.

I have used injectable test base many many times, and I've used transdermal test base many times... Transdermal test base kicks in faster than injectable. That's as much proof as I'm going to dig up for you. If you actually want to know, go fucking try it yourself instead of sitting on the forum going on and on demanding proof.

As far as why drug dealers aren't selling them lol, you do realize we're talking about one single form of testosterone here, right? We're not talking about shooting heroin intravenously here.. and I'm not talking about every drug in existence being faster than an injection, but you seem to be and that's absurd.

It's really no special secret that transdermals have, and will further, evolve into a much more dominant form of drug delivery either... It's really fucking weird how you've taken such an odd hard line on this with clearly no experience.

Transdermal drug delivery