HPTA restart after TRT.

[Grab Bag]

What were your doses for clomid if you don’t mind me asking?

I’m on week 10 of my restart. 5 weeks clearance, 3 weeks HCg, second week of serm now.

I ran hcg for the full period I was on trt, and continued w hcg after ceasing test. Continued the hcg for 8 weeks while letting the test totally clear my system. Then started up on 50mg clomid once a day for 8 weeks.

I got REALLY bad emotional sides from clomid but stuck it out.

How you feeling? Hope it is going great for you.

Also, I just checked my records, and for reference I started mid 2015 stopped mid 2019. I know there was one period towards the beginning when I hopped off and took a break for a while w zero pct (didn’t know shit back then), but was on for the rest of the time straight through, if that info is helpful to anyone.

 

[JP1979]

How long where you on cycle for?

TrT for the last 3 years and cycled 4 times in that period

 

[JP1979]

I ran hcg for the full period I was on trt, and continued w hcg after ceasing test. Continued the hcg for 8 weeks while letting the test totally clear my system. Then started up on 50mg clomid once a day for 8 weeks.

I got REALLY bad emotional sides from clomid but stuck it out.

How you feeling? Hope it is going great for you.

Also, I just checked my records, and for reference I started mid 2015 stopped mid 2019. I know there was one period towards the beginning when I hopped off and took a break for a while w zero pct (didn’t know shit back then), but was on for the rest of the time straight through, if that info is helpful to anyone.

Clomid is wild. I was 100mg a day and it made me a moody dickhead. I’m down to 50mg for another 2 weeks and then 25mg for another 2 weeks.

I will get labs before I drop to 25 to see if I need to stay at 50 for a little longer.

I really don’t feel that bad overall, beating my log every week, but definitely don’t look the same.

Should be interesting to see my labs I’m getting Wednesday just to peek at what’s happening. My natty level before TrT was 195 so I’m not expecting much.

 

[JP1979]

TrT for the last 3 years and cycled 4 times in that period

The cycle I ended to start pct was 20 weeks test/primo.

 

[BigJ89]

I ran hcg for the full period I was on trt, and continued w hcg after ceasing test. Continued the hcg for 8 weeks while letting the test totally clear my system. Then started up on 50mg clomid once a day for 8 weeks.

I got REALLY bad emotional sides from clomid but stuck it out.

How you feeling? Hope it is going great for you.

Also, I just checked my records, and for reference I started mid 2015 stopped mid 2019. I know there was one period towards the beginning when I hopped off and took a break for a while w zero pct (didn’t know shit back then), but was on for the rest of the time straight through, if that info is helpful to anyone.

Do you remember how long it took the Clomid to start showing some activity with LH/FSH?

 

[JP1979]

Do you remember how long it took the Clomid to start showing some activity with LH/FSH?

For what it’s worth. I got labs after 3 shots of HCG and my FSH was already moving up.

 

[malfeasance]

Sperm bounce back after male contraception

Men taking hormonal contraception – likely to be available soon – usually regain their fertility in a few months, a new study suggests

www.newscientist.com

Earlier studies note that the effects of hormonal contraception are reversible in men, but none go into great depth about how long this takes, says Christina Wang at the University of California and Los Angeles Biomedical Institute in the US.

She and her colleagues pooled data from 1549 men in 30 studies. According to the analysis, once the men stopped the treatments it took about 3-4 months for their sperm counts to return to fertile levels.

On the rebound​

Researchers stress that 100% of the men in the 30 studies rebounded to at least this level within two years.

They also defined other factors that influenced this rebound: extended periods of treatment were associated with longer recovery time. And for some unknown reason, men in their twenties took slightly longer than middle-aged men to regain fertility. The results also indicated that ethnicity might influence this process, with recovery being faster in Asian men.



Read more: Sperm bounce back after male contraception

 

[malfeasance]

Note this study did not go out to 24 months. That is important.

Age and Duration of Testosterone Therapy Predict Time to Return of Sperm Count after hCG Therapy

To determine factors that influence sperm recovery after testosterone-associated infertility.Clinical retrospective study.Academic male-infertility urology clinic.Sixty-six men who presented with infertility after testosterone use.Testosterone (T) cessation ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[BigJ89]

Does hcg only suppress LH and not FSH?

For what it’s worth. I got labs after 3 shots of HCG and my FSH was already moving up

 

[JP1979]

Does hcg only suppress LH and not FSH?

Yes, hcg is synthetic LH so it will suppress your natural LH. My LH was still at less than .1 and my FSH had moved up from less than .1 to .9.

 

[JP1979]

Yes, hcg is synthetic LH so it will suppress your natural LH. My LH was still at less than .1 and my FSH had moved up from less than .1 to .9.

Going to quest tomorrow so should have them back by Wednesday.

 

[BigJ89]

This blood work will show 2 weeks on serms?

Going to quest tomorrow so should have them back by Wednesday.

 

[JP1979]

This blood work will show 2 weeks on serms?

Yessir.

 

[Grab Bag]

Do you remember how long it took the Clomid to start showing some activity with LH/FSH?

I’m sorry, I can’t remember. I took a fertility test at some point later that year and passed, had failed a fertility test the previous year while on TRT.

 

[JP1979]

Just got my labs

T 53
FSH 2.4
LH .3

FSH is up but that’s about all.

 

[BigJ89]

Just got my labs

T 53
FSH 2.4
LH .3

FSH is up but that’s about all.

This is 2 weeks on Clomid only?

 

[he-man100]

Just got my labs

T 53
FSH 2.4
LH .3

FSH is up but that’s about all.

Did you check total T at the end of the HCG phase ? It is important to check testicular response to HCG before doing the serm phase

 

[JP1979]

Did you check total T at the end of the HCG phase ? It is important to check testicular response to HCG before doing the serm phase

I did. I was up to my natural level pre TrT

 

[JP1979]

This is 2 weeks on Clomid only?

Correct.

 

[JP1979]

I think I need to drop my e2 lower

Estrogens in the feedback regulation of gonadotropin secretion in men: effects of administration of estrogen to agonadal subjects and the antiestrogen tamoxifen and the aromatase inhibitor delta'-testolactone to eugonadal subjects - PubMed

To elucidate the specific role of estrogens in the feedback regulation of gonadotropin secretion in men, basal and LRH-stimulated gonadotropin levels were studied in: Six agonadal subjects Six agonadal subjects continuously treated with 50 micrograms ethinylestradiol Six eugonadal subjects...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov