Human Growth Hormone - QSC vs Meditrope Golden Tops. What the fuck?

Next time take a serum test as well so you know if the problem is your or the product !
On its own serum is not better then igf1 test i agree but having both is better for figuring things out.
Have you done the serum and had high levels with low igf1 its possible you are the problem or some peptides in the vial .
If the igf1 was the same and low serum thats a problem with the product .
Anyways Jano test is required will you be sending some his way?
 
Next time take a serum test as well so you know if the problem is your or the product !
On its own serum is not better then igf1 test i agree but having both is better for figuring things out.
Have you done the serum and had high levels with low igf1 its possible you are the problem or some peptides in the vial .
If the igf1 was the same and low serum thats a problem with the product .
Anyways Jano test is required will you be sending some his way?
Growth hormone serum?

Also, yes. About to send to Janoshik next week.
 
Was going to order a bunch of kits of the 15iu in the next few weeks. Glad I check the QSC thread regularly for things like this.

You're doing God's work
I still have trouble believing their growth hormone is bad. Waiting until I can pay Janoshik for testing. It’s possible it’s something else… we will see.
 
Ripped was fucking amazing. I was taking 900mg of gear weekly. 300mg test, 300 mg tren a, 300mg mast. The only side effect was a high heart rate (100-105 resting), and a massive libido that turned me into a breeder that wanted to impregnate 10000 women.

I did a bulk with it instead of a cut and gained 30lbs. Keep in mind I’m about 6’10”, so my gains may be different than yours.
did you gain lean mass meaning as you gained 30lbs were you leaner after cycle finished? I ask because I am starting the rip mix next week.
 
I still have trouble believing their growth hormone is bad. Waiting until I can pay Janoshik for testing. It’s possible it’s something else… we will see.
Yeah, I'm in no rush anyway though. Not gonna be able to order until February at the earliest, if I even decide to pull the trigger.
 
Are most of you doing your normal am/pm doses then getting bloods or are you doing the 10iu IM and then testing 3hrs later?
 
yes i think the raw powder are all good but when it comes to hgh somthing is different to pharma grade hgh. I dont doubt it that chinese hgh is real Hgh.The hgh from qsc had good effects on fatburn,pump and fullness but somthing is different maybe the protain structure or somthing. I felt all benefits from pharma genotropin hgh without the side effects which i had from the chinese.
The only difference I notice on qsc compared to pharma is a miniscule amount of extra water

Hi,

I bought a ton of kits from QSC and Meditrope and compared blood values.

Meditrope Golden Tops - #96 - 5.77mg. Source: theprovider

- 1.92mg/day: day 14 = 431 ng/mL
- 1.92mg/day: day 30 = 457 ng/mL

QSC 15 iu kits - 5mg
- 1.0mg/day for 1 month: 145 ng/mL
- 2.0mg/day for 1 month: 186 ng/mL
- 3.0mg/day for ~1 week: 133 ng/mL

What gives? Did they accidentally send me something else? I’m sending it to @janoshik for testing and I’ll report back with what it is.

Btw: been off the QSC cut stack (300mg test/tren/mast) for roughly 6 weeks, so I’m not sure tren is crashing IGF-1.

Was there anything else that you had added that could lower igf? Was your diet the same on the qsc as the meditropes? I ran a couple kits of pharma before switching to 100iu qsc kits and it felt just as good when I switched over on 9iu's, current batches, a few days ago I ran out of 100iu kits and switched to 150iu kits and jumped from 19iu to 24iu a day and got a decent amount of water retention in my wrists from the higher dose, they're good in my opinion, at these doses I can pretty much tell if it's good by the feel.
 
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I added GH serum to my test on the 15th, it'll be an 18iu bolus shot of the qsc 15iu vials I just received. When do I inject the GH? 3 hours prior to the blood draw? Or if peak blood levels is 2 to 3 hours should I shoot for 2 hours and 30 minutes prior?
 
Im not surprised as tren is known to lower igf-1. You are not the first with this problem and will not be the last one, check out this thread:

 
Hi,

I bought a ton of kits from QSC and Meditrope and compared blood values.

Meditrope Golden Tops - #96 - 5.77mg. Source: theprovider

- 1.92mg/day: day 14 = 431 ng/mL
- 1.92mg/day: day 30 = 457 ng/mL

QSC 15 iu kits - 5mg
- 1.0mg/day for 1 month: 145 ng/mL
- 2.0mg/day for 1 month: 186 ng/mL
- 3.0mg/day for ~1 week: 133 ng/mL

What gives? Did they accidentally send me something else? I’m sending it to @janoshik for testing and I’ll report back with what it is.

Btw: been off the QSC cut stack (300mg test/tren/mast) for roughly 6 weeks, so I’m not sure tren is crashing IGF-1.
When exactly did you stop/start the qsc GH and the cut stack mix and how many ml of cut stack mix per week? Could you have been lacking calories or working/training really hard during the last bloods of 1 week of 9iu qsc? We're you taking anything else? Any serms or anything that could put more stress on your liver at all? Super not right your igf went lower when you increased the dose, maybe a bunk kit? Straight mannitol haha, oops qsc. I have recent batches of each from them and it all feels like good shit so far, so good that pharma is just worthless money-wasting.
 
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