I really like Modafinil - even at low doses

[Excel.exe]

Seems reasonable to me. One 200mg Moda is a good "base" and 1.2, or 3 50mg Armoda added depending on how long you need it to last that day.

Is armoda supposed to be taken more than once per day?

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Is armoda supposed to be taken more than once per day?

Definitely not. Speaking from experience, it's the absolute first thing I take when I wake up AM.

The reason he's talking about multiple doses of 50mg is because he has spoken about how 3 50mg armoda work quicker than 1 150mg armoda. Also, from a dose titration standpoint based on the type of day you know you have ahead of you. E.g., do I need 50, 100, or 150mg of armoda today?

 

[MrGrant]

Thanks @Zeus088, Ive seen the posts where @Ghoul mentions the differences and pretty sure I noticed some myself, but I cant work out whats causing it as the ingredients don't state a change. In one post he mentions the difference with one being slow and one fast acting, so maybe the difference in modaheal and modavigil just the ratios of these or is there something else?
TBH theres no great need for me TO know, but it would be nice

 

[Ghoul]

Sorry if I've missed this in the thread but whats the difference between say Modaheal 200mg and Modavigil 200mg? Both say they are 200mg of modafinil but I believe Ive felt different on each and others in the thread seem to have said similar? I had a quick look online for ingredients but again just see 200mg modafinal?
@Ghoul any thoughts please?

The difference is in pharmacokinetics. How much, and how quickly the active ingredient is absorbed.

This is dependent on the formulation of the other non-active ingredients (excipients), and the physical manufacturing process of the tablet.

Let me preface this by saying I've never seen evidence of "bunk" Moda. The active ingredient is very cheap. About a penny per tablet. The "bunk" paranoia goes back to the days when it was closer to $5 per tablet. Every lab test I've seen shows around 200mg of Modafinil is present.

The primary difference between Moda tabs comes from whether or not, and how well, one step of the manufacturing process is performed.

The grinding and sifting of the active ingredient into relatively uniform, microscopic particles.

This is not like grinding and sifting flour, but a very complex process working at a level that can only be checked by electron microscope.

When the pharma manufacturer receives the active ingredient (which I believe is mostly made in Korea and Japan), the particles vary widely in size. Larger particles are not absorbed as quickly, or at all.

In this chart, you can see one sample of Moda absorbs quickly, hits maximum blood concentration early, and stays there. .

The other samples absorb more slowly, never reach the same peak, and drop off sooner.

So despite all being the same dosage, each of the tablet formulations are experienced differently by the user.





Sun is part of a multibillion dollar pharma conglomerate, and has access to the equipment and expertise to ensure consistency from batch to batch, regardless of how the active ingredient comes in. It's processed into a uniform size.

HAB is next best.

The rest of the manufacturers will produce different results based on how the raw material comes in. Some batches have lots of poorly absorbed large particles, others have. high proportion of small particles, so its luck of the draw and lots of variation from one tab to another.

 

[Ghoul]

Is armoda supposed to be taken more than once per day?

No, neither Modafinil or Armodafinil is supposed to be taken more than once a day. After lots of experimentation, that's just not a good idea generally. Take as early as possible. If you need it to last longer, take a larger dose.

I'd only take it a second time in a situation where I needed to stay awake no matter what, like preventing falling asleep on a long drive that went longer than planned.