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Is armoda supposed to be taken more than once per day?
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Trenbolonetax
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Definitely not. Speaking from experience, it's the absolute first thing I take when I wake up AM.
The reason he's talking about multiple doses of 50mg is because he has spoken about how 3 50mg armoda work quicker than 1 150mg armoda. Also, from a dose titration standpoint based on the type of day you know you have ahead of you. E.g., do I need 50, 100, or 150mg of armoda today?
Thanks @Zeus088, Ive seen the posts where @Ghoul mentions the differences and pretty sure I noticed some myself, but I cant work out whats causing it as the ingredients don't state a change. In one post he mentions the difference with one being slow and one fast acting, so maybe the difference in modaheal and modavigil just the ratios of these or is there something else?
TBH theres no great need for me TO know, but it would be nice
TBH theres no great need for me TO know, but it would be nice
Ghoul
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The difference is in pharmacokinetics. How much, and how quickly the active ingredient is absorbed.
This is dependent on the formulation of the other non-active ingredients (excipients), and the physical manufacturing process of the tablet.
Let me preface this by saying I've never seen evidence of "bunk" Moda. The active ingredient is very cheap. About a penny per tablet. The "bunk" paranoia goes back to the days when it was closer to $5 per tablet. Every lab test I've seen shows around 200mg of Modafinil is present.
The primary difference between Moda tabs comes from whether or not, and how well, one step of the manufacturing process is performed.
The grinding and sifting of the active ingredient into relatively uniform, microscopic particles.
This is not like grinding and sifting flour, but a very complex process working at a level that can only be checked by electron microscope.
When the pharma manufacturer receives the active ingredient (which I believe is mostly made in Korea and Japan), the particles vary widely in size. Larger particles are not absorbed as quickly, or at all.
In this chart, you can see one sample of Moda absorbs quickly, hits maximum blood concentration early, and stays there. .
The other samples absorb more slowly, never reach the same peak, and drop off sooner.
So despite all being the same dosage, each of the tablet formulations are experienced differently by the user.
Sun is part of a multibillion dollar pharma conglomerate, and has access to the equipment and expertise to ensure consistency from batch to batch, regardless of how the active ingredient comes in. It's processed into a uniform size.
HAB is next best.
The rest of the manufacturers will produce different results based on how the raw material comes in. Some batches have lots of poorly absorbed large particles, others have. high proportion of small particles, so its luck of the draw and lots of variation from one tab to another.
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Ghoul
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No, neither Modafinil or Armodafinil is supposed to be taken more than once a day. After lots of experimentation, that's just not a good idea generally. Take as early as possible. If you need it to last longer, take a larger dose.
I'd only take it a second time in a situation where I needed to stay awake no matter what, like preventing falling asleep on a long drive that went longer than planned.
sinistral
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I just got my hands on some Velmoda 200mg. It seems it is from Sun Pharma. Anyone tried this brand? Is it any good?
Ghoul
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Sun Pharma is a top tier generics producer. One of the main suppliers of generics to the US and Europe.
Ghoul
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What makes you think it's from Sun though? I see it's from Fortune Healthcare.
sinistral
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Oh, I just did a quick search. My default search engine is brave.
search.brave.com
But yeah, I can see the "Fortune Healthcare" on the packs now. It's tough to read.
How's Fortune Healthcare for quality?
Velmoda 200 Modafinil
Velmoda 200 Mg is a medication used to treat sleep disorders, including narcolepsy, shift work disorder, and obstructive sleep apnea. It contains the active ingredient modafinil, which helps individuals manage these conditions and improve their sleep patterns. Key Information: Generic Name...
search.brave.com
But yeah, I can see the "Fortune Healthcare" on the packs now. It's tough to read.
How's Fortune Healthcare for quality?
Ghoul
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Oh, I just did a quick search. My default search engine is brave.
Velmoda 200 Modafinil
Velmoda 200 Mg is a medication used to treat sleep disorders, including narcolepsy, shift work disorder, and obstructive sleep apnea. It contains the active ingredient modafinil, which helps individuals manage these conditions and improve their sleep patterns. Key Information: Generic Name...
But yeah, I can see the "Fortune Healthcare" on the packs now. It's tough to read.
How's Fortune Healthcare for quality?
It's at the bottom of the value end of the spectrum. Mostly a "dick pills for export" company. Not saying it's fake, but quality probably varies widely from batch to batch.
As long as it was really cheap, it could be a decent deal.
What is the "RRP price" on the strip?
sinistral
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Ghoul
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Was just curious. Anyway, as long as it was cheap and you weren't charged Sun prices it's probobly fine.
sinistral
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What does the RRP price mean?
Ghoul
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Retail price in indian rupees. Doesn't mean much, I was just curious. How much was it?
sinistral
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$1.40 per pill.
I bought 30 from another source because 1. it was labeled as "provigil" and 2. thinking it would arrive earlier than my Modalert. It was not and did not.
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