I would like to know what those of you who support trump will do when he loses the election?

[Millard]

And here’s the question again , out of the 80 million supposed votes he got , can not one of you ( Millard , north Mich, quack doc ) engage the question we keep asking as to why you support Biden and his policies ?

I have no interest in defending Biden.

What about Obama? What about Hillary? What about Biden? Whataboutism.

Just because I am not a Trump dick rider, it doesn't mean I'm a Biden sycophant.

I do not like this whole strategy of deflecting attention to the other topics when faced with unfavorable news about your team.

Then instead of talking about the events surrounding and the fallout of the January 6th terrorist attack, we could end up talking about something like climate change ffs. What a diversion.

 

[RGL90]

I have no interest in defending Biden.

What about Obama? What about Hillary? What about Biden? Whataboutism.

Just because I am not a Trump dick rider, it doesn't mean I'm a Biden sycophant.

I do not like this whole strategy of deflecting attention to the other topics when faced with unfavorable news about your team.

Then instead of talking about the events surrounding and the fallout of the January 6th terrorist attack, we could end up talking about something like climate change ffs. What a diversion.

Not a strategy , I honestly want to know why Millard went down and voted Biden ( you prob mailed yours in ) on paper . I can tell you why I voted for trump, why can’t you? In all honesty it’s you deflecting questions , not me, I don’t recall you asking me a direct question about anything . But whatever I knew we wouldn’t get a simple answer , just wanted to show the people who are reading how ridiculous it is to hold a conversation with YOU people . I won’t respond anymore it’s a waste of energy ....

 

[RGL90]

Oh and you know what I think about the capitol riots , GOOD .... poke the bear for so long he eventually wake up, I heard they have pelosi laptop , I’ve actually heard undercover went in WITH antifa ( yea sorry bud , half were antifa ) and they indeed took pelosi lap top . I guess let’s sit back and see what happens . Anyways , I’m done engaging I just wanted to hear what policies you supported of the two instead of a we hate orange man motivated vote , but we can’t even have that conversation , it’s actually never even been had , bc you won’t engage in a conversation that will make you look like a damn fool . You just say ( I have no interest in having that conversation ) well why? I just answered you about the capitol riots with how I feel? Ok I’m done , back to my coffee

 

[RGL90]

I have no interest in defending Biden.

What about Obama? What about Hillary? What about Biden? Whataboutism.

Just because I am not a Trump dick rider, it doesn't mean I'm a Biden sycophant.

I do not like this whole strategy of deflecting attention to the other topics when faced with unfavorable news about your team.

Then instead of talking about the events surrounding and the fallout of the January 6th terrorist attack, we could end up talking about something like climate change ffs. What a diversion.

Listen , I think about the things I say after the fact, I don’t want to say anything that divides us anymore ... I would honestly like to sit down and have coffee with a man with different views and try to come to middle ground on why we believe in the things we do and why we don’t in the other mans view points , until we can do that without trying to belittle the other side we only move further apart , so here’s me being a man saying I’m sorry for adding to the division ... whenever anyone is ready to have a adult conversation not trying to belittle each other I’m all for it , but until
Then I want to hear a comparison of why you voted for your man , and then I want to counter with why do you support that policy , until then I’m confused and do not understand . Good day gentlemen

 

[pigeonhed]

What Biden and Trump voters say they want the other candidate's supporters to know about them

It should not be hard to find out how people feel about BIDEN or TRUMP. To learn what others think you will need to read. If you find yourself typing, you're messed up.

Good luck.

Edited: You're rather than the incorrect your. Excuse me.

 

[Oldschool]

The old "China is polluting real bad so we should be able to do it too!" Is just such a bad excuse. The US is supposed to be the leader of the world, the Best.

Saying green energy that good enough is flat out false. Maybe if we actually invested in our infrastructure we would be able to do it. It does take that much, see this.

There's no way around it: we are destroying the planet. Offshore drilling and subsequent oil spills, pipelines destroying and fragmenting habitat, and chemical pollution in our land and water are all huge problems. My girl is an ecologist and I have spent an inordinate amount of time studying the subject as well. Trump had the EPA blatantly ignore multiple findings in the interest of big business: from PFAS in our drinking water to https://www.voanews.com/usa/dow-chemical-pushes-trump-administration-scrap-pesticide-study, to chemicals used in dry cleaning that have caused countless American military members' babies to be born still or with heart defects. Also let us not forget his rollback on fracking regulations that is polluting the hell out of people's backyards. On top of that, in many of his rollbacks he tried to include legislation limiting our ability to implement future legislation on these very same things: he wanted permanent rollbacks to environmental protections regardless of any environmental or even HUMAN health consequences in the future. In short he gives zero fucks about yours or my health and only about the profits of big businesses.

The evidence is irrefutable. Our country is dirtier and more polluted, more toxic, and we will pay the price. We are part of the ecosystem and that is not going to change any time soon.

YES China and India need to wake the fuck up and start SERIOUSLY regulating the shit out of their industries, but those other countries being shitty assholes in mean the USA should be too. We were supposed to be great. Guess that was nothing more than a catchy slogan though.

There isn’t a lot of truth in that big post there amigo. Oil and gas production is surprisingly clean and accident free these days in regards to spills. A quick search shows that there were only four “major” oil spills in the USA in 2020. The only reason a frac fucks up a neighbors yard is because the neighbor is pissed it’s not going on on their land so they can benefit from it. Research how much fossil fuel it takes to build and install one wind turbine and get back with me.

 

[Test_Subject]

There isn’t a lot of truth in that big post there amigo. Oil and gas production is surprisingly clean and accident free these days in regards to spills. A quick search shows that there were only four “major” oil spills in the USA in 2020.

Extracting oil isn't the issue. The issue is burning it. Burning hydrocarbons is a dirty process -- that's a simple fact rooted in chemistry that will never change.

People are quick to say "sustainable energy isn't feasible" then turn around and get mad if someone proposes funding more research to make it feasible. We don't have sustainable, cleaner energy because people (usually those with a vested interest in traditional fuel industries) have been dragging their feet as hard as possible since the 1980s to make sure that it doesn't happen.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Extracting oil isn't the issue. The issue is burning it. Burning hydrocarbons is a dirty process -- that's a simple fact rooted in chemistry that will never change.

People are quick to say "sustainable energy isn't feasible" then turn around and get mad if someone proposes funding more research to make it feasible. We don't have sustainable, cleaner energy because people (usually those with a vested interest in traditional fuel industries) have been dragging their feet as hard as possible since the 1980s to make sure that it doesn't happen.

Pound for pound, the “cleanest” sustainable energy is nuclear. Yet no one wants that.

 

[Oldschool]

Extracting oil isn't the issue. The issue is burning it. Burning hydrocarbons is a dirty process -- that's a simple fact rooted in chemistry that will never change.

People are quick to say "sustainable energy isn't feasible" then turn around and get mad if someone proposes funding more research to make it feasible. We don't have sustainable, cleaner energy because people (usually those with a vested interest in traditional fuel industries) have been dragging their feet as hard as possible since the 1980s to make sure that it doesn't happen.

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Extracting oil isn't the issue. The issue is burning it. Burning hydrocarbons is a dirty process -- that's a simple fact rooted in chemistry that will never change.

People are quick to say "sustainable energy isn't feasible" then turn around and get mad if someone proposes funding more research to make it feasible. We don't have sustainable, cleaner energy because people (usually those with a vested interest in traditional fuel industries) have been dragging their feet as hard as possible since the 1980s to make sure that it doesn't happen.

240 tons of CO2 are created in the building of each wind turbine. Put that in your chemistry pipe and puff on it for awhile.
I’m in total agreement that we need alternative sources for fuel but the “Paul Harvey” of the situation is the more solar panels and wind turbines you build the more you have to drill for oil!!!

 

[Test_Subject]

Pound for pound, the “cleanest” sustainable energy is nuclear. Yet no one wants that.

Absolutely it is. It's the best choice that we have right now by a huge margin.

The leftover waste is an issue, definitely, but that's a drawback that we can potentially negate in the future with enough research into its disposal. Hell, we may even be able to put the spent fuel rods to use, since they generate a significant amount of energy even after they're not viable for use in reactors.

 

[Test_Subject]

240 tons of CO2 are created in the building of each wind turbine. Put that in your chemistry pipe and puff on it for awhile.
I’m in total agreement that we need alternative sources for fuel but the “Paul Harvey” of the situation is the more solar panels and wind turbines you build the more you have to drill for oil!!!

I never claimed that wind turbines or solar power were the answer, but without proper funding for research, we're not going to discover viable solutions.

There's no one technology that works for every situation. Solar power works great in the desert, but in Canada it isn't very efficient, because our winters are long and dark. Geothermal works great in volcanic areas, but not so much in the prairies. Hydroelectric power is pretty efficient, but you need a large waterway.

 

[Test_Subject]

I have no interest in defending Biden.

What about Obama? What about Hillary? What about Biden? Whataboutism.

Just because I am not a Trump dick rider, it doesn't mean I'm a Biden sycophant.

I do not like this whole strategy of deflecting attention to the other topics when faced with unfavorable news about your team.

Then instead of talking about the events surrounding and the fallout of the January 6th terrorist attack, we could end up talking about something like climate change ffs. What a diversion.

Oh yeah? Well what about Hitler? Neither Biden nor Trump are as bad as Hitler, therefore Trump and Biden are both good.

Logic.

 

[TideGear]

Look up the Mox project. I think it's dead now but they were using the spent fuel rods for something.

 

[Skard]

I have no interest in defending Biden.

What about Obama? What about Hillary? What about Biden? Whataboutism.

Just because I am not a Trump dick rider, it doesn't mean I'm a Biden sycophant.

I do not like this whole strategy of deflecting attention to the other topics when faced with unfavorable news about your team.

Then instead of talking about the events surrounding and the fallout of the January 6th terrorist attack, we could end up talking about something like climate change ffs. What a diversion.

The reason many people voted for Trump is not to be dick riders, as you so eloquently put it, but was because he is anti-globalism, and does not believe in selling out the sovereignty and constitutional rights of the USA to an elite banker class which praises the Chinese communist system, i.e. no rights other than those which the communist state decides they will grant you...and if you don't go along with it they will simply kill you.

It is not about any team winning. It is evident that most of our politicians are worthless. Actually worse than that, they are dangerous. There are a handful of good ones such as Nunes and Jordan. Other than that not much of a difference between dems and republicans. We all know that the only way to get elected POTUS is to run in one of the two parties. So Trump ran as a Republican.

I had not voted in years, until Trump made it clear that he did not want unrestricted immigration, continued outsourcing of industry to other countries, and was pro-constitution and anti-globalist.

 

[Millard]

Not a strategy , I honestly want to know why Millard baker went down and voted Biden ( you prob mailed yours in ) on paper . I can tell you why I voted for trump, why can’t you? In all honesty it’s you deflecting questions , not me, I don’t recall you asking me a direct question about anything . But whatever I knew we wouldn’t get a simple answer , just wanted to show the people who are reading how ridiculous it is to hold a conversation with YOU people . I won’t respond anymore it’s a waste of energy ....

It's impossible to take you seriously. You contradict yourself within the same breath.

You " honestly want to know why" I voted?

Or you "just wanted to show the people who are reading how ridiculous it is to hold a conversation with YOU people"??

Which is it?

Ten minutes later, you respond to tell me that I will "look like a damn fool" if I engage in conversation with you.

Twelve minutes later, maybe after some self-reflection, you respond yet again to apologize and say that you now "ready to have a adult conversation not trying to belittle each other".

You are all over the place. Can you see why anyone who reads your messages would doubt your motivations and claims that you truly want to understand their point of view?

About the "orange man motivated vote"? You got me, dude.

 

[TideGear]

It's impossible to take you seriously. You contradict yourself within the same breath.

You " honestly want to know why" I voted?

Or you "just wanted to show the people who are reading how ridiculous it is to hold a conversation with YOU people"??

Which is it?

Ten minutes later, you respond to tell me that I will "look like a damn fool" if I engage in conversation with you.

Twelve minutes later, maybe after some self-reflection, you respond yet again to apologize and say that you now "ready to have a adult conversation not trying to belittle each other".

You are all over the place. Can you see why anyone who reads your messages would doubt your motivations and claims that you truly want to understand their point of view?

About the "orange man motivated vote"? You got me, dude.

I can't speak for everyone else but in a totally non judgemental way, I would like to know why you voted for Biden. I'd like to know if I'm missing something. If you don't wanna talk about it though, no big deal.

 

[RGL90]

It's impossible to take you seriously. You contradict yourself within the same breath.

You " honestly want to know why" I voted?

Or you "just wanted to show the people who are reading how ridiculous it is to hold a conversation with YOU people"??

Which is it?

Ten minutes later, you respond to tell me that I will "look like a damn fool" if I engage in conversation with you.

Twelve minutes later, maybe after some self-reflection, you respond yet again to apologize and say that you now "ready to have a adult conversation not trying to belittle each other".

You are all over the place. Can you see why anyone who reads your messages would doubt your motivations and claims that you truly want to understand their point of view?

About the "orange man motivated vote"? You got me, dude.

So you gonna answer the question ? Take me serious or not, we feel the same about YOU people

 

[RGL90]

It's impossible to take you seriously. You contradict yourself within the same breath.

You " honestly want to know why" I voted?

Or you "just wanted to show the people who are reading how ridiculous it is to hold a conversation with YOU people"??

Which is it?

Ten minutes later, you respond to tell me that I will "look like a damn fool" if I engage in conversation with you.

Twelve minutes later, maybe after some self-reflection, you respond yet again to apologize and say that you now "ready to have a adult conversation not trying to belittle each other".

You are all over the place. Can you see why anyone who reads your messages would doubt your motivations and claims that you truly want to understand their point of view?

About the "orange man motivated vote"? You got me, dude.

I can't speak for everyone else but in a totally non judgemental way, I would like to know why you voted for Biden. I'd like to know if I'm missing something. If you don't wanna talk about it though, no big deal.
No , he’ll dance around , try to show my incompetence, deflect everything and try to make every one forget the original question , that’s been asked like 6 times now . Exactly what his party does , Um mr Biden are you gonna pack the court ? Um mr Biden what about fracking ?get my point ? Catch my drift ?

 

[Skip503]

Oh and you know what I think about the capitol riots , GOOD .... poke the bear for so long he eventually wake up, I heard they have pelosi laptop , I’ve actually heard undercover went in WITH antifa ( yea sorry bud , half were antifa ) and they indeed took pelosi lap top . I guess let’s sit back and see what happens . Anyways , I’m done engaging I just wanted to hear what policies you supported of the two instead of a we hate orange man motivated vote , but we can’t even have that conversation , it’s actually never even been had , bc you won’t engage in a conversation that will make you look like a damn fool . You just say ( I have no interest in having that conversation ) well why? I just answered you about the capitol riots with how I feel? Ok I’m done , back to my coffee

So you said you’re open to some conversation. Ill indulge a little here. The responses you made here are all “i heard.....”. I’m sorry, i heard is not anything that can be just followed or believed. And trump is the most narcissistic man ever. He honestly doesn’t care about anyone other than himself and has gotten people to believe hes doing things for them when in fact its all self serving. He doesn’t care about any of his followers other than the fact they’re following. Do you not think that mike pence and Mitch McConnell would have the same voter fraud info the president has? But yet they are just going to let it go and not be yelling from the rooftops and trying to show proof? That doesn’t make any sense to me. Trump is only doing this for trump. And the FEW that are still backing trump are only pandering to his followers to try to get them to follow them once trump is gone.
And I don’t expect to change anyone’s mind here. Everyone is so set in their way and wont stop to step outside their bubble for a second to catch a breath of air and try to see things clearly
And fwiw, I’ve been a lifelong republican, but i can see people for what they are. And Because someone is a Democrat or republican does not make them good or bad.
And for anyone to think its ok for the president to ask his followers to overtake congress.....ill never understand that. You are pretty much telling trump you want him to be your king and ruler. Against everything our country was built on.

 

[Skard]

I never believed all the accusations you make about Trump. And the fact that it is exactly what all the mainstream media pushed for 4 years only reinforces my gut feeling about him, because they have a proven track record of nothing but lies and deceit.

As soon as you said "he called for his followers to overtake congress."....ummm, NO, he did not. You are a fraud.