Imperial Pharmaceuticals

[Imperial Pharma]

So,

Your number one fan plays dirty to sell his own supply, and you don't have a problem with that?

You have no loyalty to the brand that got you guys started?

I believe you stated you wanted to be transparent. So far your withholding the name of the brand that you claim is exactly the same as your product, and yet that brand has a bad reputation.

I highly doubt the other labs rep is completely made up of negative slander from one guy, obviously there is more negative reviews than that.

Furthermore,

The meso community values respectful business practices. You have just admitted you could care less what your associates do as long as your pockets are full.

Sounds like Eroids might be a better fit.

I think there's a lot of assuming being done here, but I understand where it's coming from.

Do I have a moral problem with it? Sure. But people need to make a living, including myself. I apologize for not being the epitome of moral grounding, but I am unwilling to ditch a customer who consistently makes large orders because he chooses to do business in a less respectful way.

I personally have no loyalty to the previous brand since I wasn't one of the ones who started it, you'd have to ask the other guy that. But that being said, it just seems silly. I hate sounding condescending but it just sounds a little ridiculous to me to be so "loyal" to a simple name on a sticker that you deprive yourself from making more money.

The other lab currently has no negative slander, it has a great reputation albeit it is much more private a less known, focuses its business on a handful of customers who make extremely large orders. That being said, we'd rather be completely unassociated with them than be associated positively with them now and risk their reputation going under, dragging us down too.

I believe our business practices are respectful. We're not going around scamming people or anything like that. This business in itself is a testament towards people doing what they want. It isn't legal, but people deserve to have these things in their hands if they wish. Everyone deserves to make their own choices instead of having them made for them. It seems extremely hypocritical to attempt to control what someone does with our gear. As far as OUR business is concerned, yes, we care about him being a loyal customer and continuing to keep our operation working. But it is none of our business what he does beyond that. He is choosing to slander the other lab in order to further his business, we are not supporting that course action, but we are adapting to it.

 

[Imperial Pharma]

Also this post reeks of bs
So you guys have a lawyer
LE experience
Some secret mission to Europe to hide your money
And your a computer genius
What next does James Bond work for ya [)]
And with all that backing you up you still use safemail [)]

I guess that question was a lose-lose then. Because if we say we take every possible precaution, it sounds like BS. But if we said we just do things willy nilly and hope we don't get caught, it sounds equally as negative.

I understand we were jumping into the lion's den here, but I don't really understand where most of this is coming from. As far as I know, I've tried to remain respectful in all my answers. Yet responses like this are just taking what I say out of proportion in some attempt to make me sound foolish. Yes, we have a lawyer. Yes, we have experience. It isn't a super top secret spy mission to Europe, he's moving there for his own reasons and will be setting up accounts for us simply because he might as well while he's there. I never proclaimed to be a computer "genius," I just know my way around them quite well.

Like I said, plenty of sources use safemail just fine. In fact, the one I mentioned in the OP that I first used, The Dictator, is a private fairly high-end source who has been around for a long time, and guess what e-mail client he uses.

I don't wish to play this back and forth game where we're condescending and take jabs at each other. I'm more than willing to respond to questions but this is the last post like this I'll respond to.

 

[GigaloRob]

If these little comments already have you obviously flustered then you are in for a tough ride. Remember regardless of the comments or questions the people here will decide if you succeed or fail here. I am not impressed with the way you oversold yourself and in doing so you only raise more suspicion.

 

[1forthegeeks]

The purpose of our comments is to paint a picture if who you are.

It's obvious to all of us that you've done this before. Your introduction comes across as someone well versed in online sourcing.

There is a such thing as "too good"

You will be revealed as either an established source or a scammer.

So expect everyone to be hesitant and abrasive. If you want guys to come out of pocket and give you a try, it is in your best interest to entertain any and all questions about your brand and get your product to the public on your dime.

 

[MassTurk]

Geek I bet he already knows the routine ,just playing his part .....

 

[1forthegeeks]

Geek I bet he already knows the routine ,just playing his part .....

Everyone has a role in this game right?...

Now where did Ben go...

 

[fit2beking]

The purpose of our comments is to paint a picture if who you are.

It's obvious to all of us that you've done this before. Your introduction comes across as someone well versed in online sourcing.

There is a such thing as "too good"

You will be revealed as either an established source or a scammer.

So expect everyone to be hesitant and abrasive. If you want guys to come out of pocket and give you a try, it is in your best interest to entertain any and all questions about your brand and get your product to the public on your dime.[/QUOTE]

Or he can leave now! It's your choice Imperial. You have to prove your meddle to Meso. They are really being mild at the moment. You haven't even seen the barrage that usually comes down on sources here.

 

[MassTurk]

In not sold ... Too Convenient and slick as the community grows there will be growing pains come with it. This one just stinks after all that happened......

 

[drockspang1]

Stretch? Herc? SF? .... It's one of these guys for sure. Something isn't right with this board man. I can't find 1 source(other then maybe Naps) who was here last January... And is STILL here. Wtf?

 

[fit2beking]

Stretch? Herc? SF? .... It's one of these guys for sure. Something isn't right with this board man. I can't find 1 source(other then maybe Naps) who was here last January... And is STILL here. Wtf?

Good question

 

[Spyder]

Also this post reeks of bs
So you guys have a lawyer
LE experience
Some secret mission to Europe to hide your money
And your a computer genius
What next does James Bond work for ya [)]
And with all that backing you up you still use safemail [)]

Ha! fucking 'A' Stomps!
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[Candyskull]

Stretch? Herc? SF? .... It's one of these guys for sure. Something isn't right with this board man. I can't find 1 source(other then maybe Naps) who was here last January... And is STILL here. Wtf?

There are, but not many. None big. That's because the guys here seem to shut the bullshit down pretty fast whereas on other boards, the scams can go on forever. When you step in shit here, the smell follows you around.

 

[Big Worm]

There are, but not many. None big. That's because the guys here seem to shut the bullshit down pretty fast whereas on other boards, the scams can go on forever. When you step in shit here, the smell follows you around.

I think it was said pretty well over in the BIO thread of what is going on... They shut it down so they can recreate it all over again.

 

[DieYoungStrong]

So you guys are the Biologic spin-off?

Nice, sign me up. You're lab is gonna be like the Kramer show that never happened after Seinfeld.

You couldn't have picked a worse time to introduce yourself to this board.

 

[Cole]

I think there's a lot of assuming being done here, but I understand where it's coming from.



Do I have a moral problem with it? Sure. But people need to make a living, including myself. I apologize for not being the epitome of moral grounding, but I am unwilling to ditch a customer who consistently makes large orders because he chooses to do business in a less respectful way.



I personally have no loyalty to the previous brand since I wasn't one of the ones who started it, you'd have to ask the other guy that. But that being said, it just seems silly. I hate sounding condescending but it just sounds a little ridiculous to me to be so "loyal" to a simple name on a sticker that you deprive yourself from making more money.



The other lab currently has no negative slander, it has a great reputation albeit it is much more private a less known, focuses its business on a handful of customers who make extremely large orders. That being said, we'd rather be completely unassociated with them than be associated positively with them now and risk their reputation going under, dragging us down too.



I believe our business practices are respectful. We're not going around scamming people or anything like that. This business in itself is a testament towards people doing what they want. It isn't legal, but people deserve to have these things in their hands if they wish. Everyone deserves to make their own choices instead of having them made for them. It seems extremely hypocritical to attempt to control what someone does with our gear. As far as OUR business is concerned, yes, we care about him being a loyal customer and continuing to keep our operation working. But it is none of our business what he does beyond that. He is choosing to slander the other lab in order to further his business, we are not supporting that course action, but we are adapting to it.

If you would have done much research at all about the guys on here you would've knew that your going to have to have some very thick skin. Also there are a few members here that have had and are having some serious issues at this particular time.
So your going to be under one hell of a microscope, your going to have to take some shit and like it or you can skate over to Eroids and go to work.

Now a few things I'm wondering about I see you mentioned money more than a few times, so what's to say your not going to cast your net here and pick up a few guys to spend some serious dough then hit the road.
What's to say when your supplier has a hiccup and you run low on stock and your (Main Customer) is wanting his normal big order and the fellas here are wanting there orders are you going to cut our throats to keep him happy? Probably you changed your damn labels for the dude.

Now I'm not trying to piss you off at all but if that's how I'm thinking I can tell ya for sure that these guys are wondering the same thing plus some.

 

[Big Worm]

Sounds like sponsored boards may be the place for you. Go hustle somewhere else because my eyes are starting to turn brown from this thread.

 

[Imperial Pharma]

I'm flattered you guys believe I've done this before, when in reality I haven't. Maybe that's apparent in some of the mistakes I'm making, maybe it isn't.

I hold no hard feelings for those who are skeptic, I would be just as skeptical if I were in your seats. I understand it is common in this market for guys to pop up, take money, then leave, it's an uphill battle trying to establish yourself as a source, which is why I'm not taking anything to heart. It isn't the questions of skepticism I have a problem with, you can be skeptical while remaining respectful though. I've tried to avoid doing childish things like calling names or obviously blowing things out of proportion, if nothing else, I'd appreciate the same in return. I think we tend to forget we're all bodybuilders who share the same passion here, we don't have to agree with or trust each other, but let's keep things respectful.

I looked at a few other introductory posts to get an idea of what people do here, but I am honestly new to this board and have no idea what kind of past it has. I'm getting the vibe there's been a hike of scammers coming and going, which is unfortunate for us. Maybe you guys would prefer to wait until we establish ourselves on other boards, but regardless, we will always welcome the business of Meso members.

 

[dealer]

Hello MESO-Rx members, we're Imperial Pharmaceuticals.

Test Prop 100mg/ml - 30
Test Enan 250mg/ml - 45
Test Cyp 250mg/ml - 45
Sust 300 300mg/ml - 45
Super Test 400mg/ml - 55
Bold 250 250mg/ml - 45
Deca 300 300mg/ml - 45
NPP 100 100mg/ml - 45
Primo Ace 100mg/ml - 80
Tren Ace 100mg/ml - 50
Tren Hex 100mg/ml - 50
Tren Enan 200mg/ml - 60
Mast Prop 100mg/ml - 50

Orals
All come in groups of 100 tabs.

Dbol 10mg - 75
Anavar 10mg - 75
Winny 50mg - 75
Drol 50mg - 75
Halo 10mg - 80

Thats a pretty big list you got there. I guess you've gone through the learning curve of what powders suppliers to use vs which not ?

Lots of crap labs have been here over the past year so I thought I'd raise the bar a bit.

Why don't you send a member every single item (1 of each) that can be tested with labmax.

Don't get me wrong, you could send the initial batch legit and scam us later, but lets see if you pass Test 1 and ensure you got the right powders for the stock you SAY you have.

imperialpharma@safe-mail.net

Why all the fuss over the email. Personally I am positive the Israeli government will reveal any information to the US authorities so make us all feel better and get another provider. Its not like its expensive.

Also nice talk on your filtering equipment etc. Why don't you send us a few pics with your handle on it with it. Autoclave. Etc. Put your handle on it also so we know its you and careful I know photoshop.

The bar needs to be raised. Too many slick people out there. I hope you understand. Not trying to be disrespectful in any way..

 

[Imperial Pharma]

Thats a pretty big list you got there. I guess you've gone through the learning curve of what powders suppliers to use vs which not ?

Lots of crap labs have been here over the past year so I thought I'd raise the bar a bit.

Why don't you send a member every single item (1 of each) that can be tested with labmax.

Don't get me wrong, you could send the initial batch legit and scam us later, but lets see if you pass Test 1 and ensure you got the right powders for the stock you SAY you have.

imperialpharma@safe-mail.net

Why all the fuss over the email. Personally I am positive the Israeli government will reveal any information to the US authorities so make us all feel better and get another provider. Its not like its expensive.

Also nice talk on your filtering equipment etc. Why don't you send us a few pics with your handle on it with it. Autoclave. Etc. Put your handle on it also so we know its you and careful I know photoshop.

The bar needs to be raised. Too many slick people out there. I hope you understand. Not trying to be disrespectful in any way..

My partner, who is doing the cooking, has been doing so since the late 90's (he's an older guy) so as far as that goes, I am assuming he knows what suppliers to use/not use by now.

He's a pretty strict businessman, I'm not sure if he'll support the idea of sending someone one of everything and hoping they're good on their word to test it. Keep in mind, skepticism goes both ways. We'd love to send out free gear, but we're just as wary about getting screwed over as you guys are. Creates a bit of an impasse, you don't trust us because you don't know us, but we don't trust you because we don't know you. Maybe it will hurt our ability to get rolling a bit, but I'm just not sure he'd support the notion of sending out free stuff unless it's someone who has already bought from us and we know is good on their word. When we decide who to sponsor for running logs, it will undoubtedly be people who have bought from us in the past, unless an extremely renowned member is offering to do it.

Getting pictures of the equipment we cook is a good idea. The next time I'm there I will see what I can do. Isn't extremely often since I just handle putting together orders/shipping, but I am being taught how to cook so surely I will be around it again in the coming days.

Appreciate the hard-hitting questions.

 

[Candyskull]

My partner, who is doing the cooking, has been doing so since the late 90's (he's an older guy) so as far as that goes, I am assuming he knows what suppliers to use/not use by now.

He's a pretty strict businessman, I'm not sure if he'll support the idea of sending someone one of everything and hoping they're good on their word to test it. Keep in mind, skepticism goes both ways. We'd love to send out free gear, but we're just as wary about getting screwed over as you guys are. Creates a bit of an impasse, you don't trust us because you don't know us, but we don't trust you because we don't know you. Maybe it will hurt our ability to get rolling a bit, but I'm just not sure he'd support the notion of sending out free stuff unless it's someone who has already bought from us and we know is good on their word. When we decide who to sponsor for running logs, it will undoubtedly be people who have bought from us in the past, unless an extremely renowned member is offering to do it.

Getting pictures of the equipment we cook is a good idea. The next time I'm there I will see what I can do. Isn't extremely often since I just handle putting together orders/shipping, but I am being taught how to cook so surely I will be around it again in the coming days.

Appreciate the hard-hitting questions.

No, trust doesn't go both ways in regards to you sending out samples. You are in the business of making things in some sort of volume (let's hope). This means individual products for you are very, very cheap. The profit margin in AAS is fantastic. You know this, I know this, my grandma knows this. Lets not jerk each other off about you taking a loss on like 10-12 vials. That would impact you what? Less than $100? Less than $75? Guess it depends on how efficient you are. It's less than the cost of a minimum order, I'm certain. Even if a guy got your shit and completely fucked you, it wouldn't begin to even scratch you. That's why you'd send gear to a guy we all trust like Gunrunner or flenser. Unless you're worried your gear won't pass...

I'm not asking for your gear, but you need to examine your practices. You're asking people to take a MUCH larger risk by sending you, who we don't know for shit, who broke off from a unnamed lab, who doesn't have a problem with his own customers shady business practices because "hey, it's his business and I need eat" our hard earned money for some hepatitis in Wesson oil.

I'm not about to open my wallet to a guy who won't even send out some shit for testing. What are they going to do? Disappear with your $75 worth of gear and run an 8 compound 8 week cycle? For shits sake, there's plenty of sources here right now PROVEN g2g. No one needs you that bad.

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Not to mention, said members are paying out of there own pockets for the test kit! How about this, I'll only charge you $500 to test everything you've got. I don't even need full vials. Just a ml each, and 1 cap a piece.