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Insulin is a hormone that has always horrified and intreaged me at the same time. Naturally insulin (slin) is produced by the pancreas and it enables glucose to be used by the body for energy.

What makes slin anabolic? The simple answer is that it allows amino acids to be utalized to their maximum capability. I never suggest anyone use slin because very simply, it's dangerous. I for one have used slin with my AAS cycle, but never alone.

Bodybuilders have 2 "favorite" types of slin~1) Humalog-which requires a perscription. It has a 2.5 hour active life and peaks after about an hour. 2) Humulin-R-is OTC and has an active life of 4 hours and peaks after about 2 hrs. These stats are important because in order to NOT go "hypo" someone cycling slin will need to intake approx. 10 grams of carbs per iu of slin. This is done not only after injection but also timed to intake at the slins "peak." Keep cycles about 4 weeks and PLEASE over research b-4 cycling!

Humulin-R is really the route to take. It's cheap and easy to get...here's the thing though...REMEMBER YOU HAVE A SPIKE AT AROUND 2 HOURS, POST INJECTION! DO NOT INJECT LATE IN THE AFTERNOON...IF YOU GO HYPO WHILE YOU ARE SLEEPING YOU COULD EASILY SLIP INTO A COMA OR DIE!!! AGAIN...SLIN IS NO JOKE AND I AM ASKING YOU GUYS TO EDUCATE YOURSELVES....PLEASE!! Anyway, a "standard" Humulin cycle would probably look like this...

Day 1: 2 iu with breakfast
Day 2: 2 iu with breakfast
Day 3: 2 iu with breakfast / 2 iu post workout
Day 4: 2 iu with breakfast / 3 iu post workout
Day 5: 3 iu with breakfast / 3 iu post workout
Day 6: 3 iu with breakfast / 3 iu post workout
Day 7: 3 iu with breakfast / 4 iu post workout

I have 2 days with slin injection in the morning only...consider those your days not in the gym. The next week I would follow this rough pattern until you either:
(1) reach 10 iu per day or (2) are feeling hypo symptoms even with proper carb intake.
I also cannot express to people the importance of 10 grams of carbs per iu of slin when you inject and again when you "peak!" Some also say that taking Clenbuterol on a Humulin-R cycle is a good idea because it reduces insulin resistance, but that is the "more is better" mentality and I'm not going to be swayed into that way of thinking.

I would love to hear feedback on this. I posted this a while back and got some good discussion going so I've reposted to get a feel for what some of you who were not around the last time think.
 
I'm not following much of the insulin discussion because frankly, another compound is the last thing I need in my life right now lol. But, if you search and read up on @ChestRockwell and his input you'll find much substance on the matter. I know it has been discussed at length in recent weeks.

Good luck, and I would link a thread if I could remember...
 
Ya I've touched on this subject a few times with @Leangains4life over the last year and realize I've failed to mention that 10g of carbs per iu is without training. A mixture of complex carbs and simple carbs should be utilized throughout a regimen for beginners or advanced users.

At a beginners level you should keep the injections to once per day. You don't want insulin over lapping cause it's the easiest mistake to make. It's actually after the last peak you think your okay when you still have 6ius in the body from a 10 iu shot and you take 10 more...well your fucked. This is a mistake I made while I was past the point of "no return" as I call it.

The point of no return is:
The most my body can handle is 20ius. If I take 2 shots spread out of 14-16ius and even if half that overlaps each other during injections, I'm in trouble. Im not only unprepared but the worst part is that I'm unaware of it. Now, I may not be able to eat enough food to save myself.

These are the kinds of things that should be known PRIOR to putting together a regimen and starting the use of insulin.

-Leader of the Mesocinion group #14.
Lol
 
bigrobbie said:
Insulin is a hormone that has always horrified and intreaged me at the same time. Naturally insulin (slin) is produced by the pancreas and it enables glucose to be used by the body for energy.

What makes slin anabolic? The simple answer is that it allows amino acids to be utalized to their maximum capability. I never suggest anyone use slin because very simply, it's dangerous. I for one have used slin with my AAS cycle, but never alone.

Bodybuilders have 2 "favorite" types of slin~1) Humalog-which requires a perscription. It has a 2.5 hour active life and peaks after about an hour. 2) Humulin-R-is OTC and has an active life of 4 hours and peaks after about 2 hrs. These stats are important because in order to NOT go "hypo" someone cycling slin will need to intake approx. 10 grams of carbs per iu of slin. This is done not only after injection but also timed to intake at the slins "peak." Keep cycles about 4 weeks and PLEASE over research b-4 cycling!

Humulin-R is really the route to take. It's cheap and easy to get...here's the thing though...REMEMBER YOU HAVE A SPIKE AT AROUND 2 HOURS, POST INJECTION! DO NOT INJECT LATE IN THE AFTERNOON...IF YOU GO HYPO WHILE YOU ARE SLEEPING YOU COULD EASILY SLIP INTO A COMA OR DIE!!! AGAIN...SLIN IS NO JOKE AND I AM ASKING YOU GUYS TO EDUCATE YOURSELVES....PLEASE!! Anyway, a "standard" Humulin cycle would probably look like this...

Day 1: 2 iu with breakfast
Day 2: 2 iu with breakfast
Day 3: 2 iu with breakfast / 2 iu post workout
Day 4: 2 iu with breakfast / 3 iu post workout
Day 5: 3 iu with breakfast / 3 iu post workout
Day 6: 3 iu with breakfast / 3 iu post workout
Day 7: 3 iu with breakfast / 4 iu post workout

I have 2 days with slin injection in the morning only...consider those your days not in the gym. The next week I would follow this rough pattern until you either:
(1) reach 10 iu per day or (2) are feeling hypo symptoms even with proper carb intake.
I also cannot express to people the importance of 10 grams of carbs per iu of slin when you inject and again when you "peak!" Some also say that taking Clenbuterol on a Humulin-R cycle is a good idea because it reduces insulin resistance, but that is the "more is better" mentality and I'm not going to be swayed into that way of thinking.

I would love to hear feedback on this. I posted this a while back and got some good discussion going so I've reposted to get a feel for what some of you who were not around the last time think.
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From a newbies perspective humalog should be the preferred insulin, no?
 
VERY FEW Meso members will benefit from slin or possess the fund on knowledge required to use any form of insulin as an "anabolic agent".

It's not only dangerous but is also the most misunderstood of all hormones on PEDs forum categorized as "anabolic".

The fact is with few exceptions your body makes more than enough insulin and supplementing this drug as an ad hoc anabolic agent only reduces endogenous production.
 
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Dr JIM said:
VERY FEW Meso members will benefit from slin or possess the fund on knowledge required to use any form of insulin as an "anabolic agent".

It's not only dangerous but is also the most misunderstood of all hormones on PEDs forum categorized as "anabolic".

The fact is with few exceptions your body makes more than enough insulin and supplementing this drug as an ad hoc anabolic agent only reduces endogenous production.
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I agree with dr jim lol noone needs slin. Get tren instead lol
 
I have done a few cycles of slin (always short acting, novalog), I love the pump I get from it and I seem to rebound quicker from hard workouts when taking it. I started at around 10G carbs per 1iu and my sweet spot is around 7g carbs per iu, with moderate exercise.
Novolog/Humalog is not always easy to get if u don't know someone but I hit a gold mine a while back lol.

Basskiller has a good section on his website about insulin, its an interesting read.
 
Leangains4life said:
if you read from start i have diabetes. My pancreas makes 0 insulin.. if i have 2 cup oats its 120g carbs i jab 12 iu simple as that.
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Ya but you dont NEED the whole 12...
Ha jk seriously jk. I knew you were a long time ago. I understand how it's not needed to build muscle. My question is do you think that if I was taking Tren, GH and obviously Testosterone that insulin wouldn't do anything? -not a latorical. I'm seriously asking your opinion.
 
notanothersnake said:
I started at around 10G carbs per 1iu and my sweet spot is around 7g carbs per iu,
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Have you ever heard of pissing into the ocean awaiting a color change. Well thats what you're doing and the "effects" you have noted at such dosages are nothing short of placebo.

Notwithstanding the "bro science" that has been propagated on PED forums for years on end, at physiologic doses, the effects of Slin on SKM are anti-catabolic rather than "anabolic".

What's a "physiologic dose"? Let me put it this way the average adult male at 160 lbs
on a 2000 Kcal diet secrets roughly FIFTY IUs of insulin A DAY!
 
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notanothersnake said:
I have done a few cycles of slin (always short acting, novalog), I love the pump I get from it and I seem to rebound quicker from hard workouts when taking it. I started at around 10G carbs per 1iu and my sweet spot is around 7g carbs per iu, with moderate exercise.
Novolog/Humalog is not always easy to get if u don't know someone but I hit a gold mine a while back lol.

Basskiller has a good section on his website about insulin, its an interesting read.
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After some experiments I can get by with about 6gms/iu, not suggesting anything here just telling my personal experience
 
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