Insulin cycle and protocol



yea so whats the point in taking aas unless your a top 10 body bulider or in a professional sport???? This argument has no end and can go in circles.[/QUOTE]


If we want to have a convo purely on harm reduction and we all were truly taking health first we shouldnt be taking steroids. Plain and simple. Secondly i could justify unless your racking in multi million dollar contracts in say the NFL or UFC for being a big strong, dominant athlete then PED use really is nonsense. That includes bodybuilders. Since most make very little if anything for actually competing on a stage, a platform or a circuit. So the trade off is money for health? That would make Bodybuilding the king of stupid, irresponsible PED use. Wouldnt it? Any way...i understand Dr. Jims concerns. Infact i think AAS, GH and Insulin or any combo of the 3 are extremely stupid for anyone to mess with. But here we all are. Doing exactly that
 
yea so whats the point in taking aas unless your a top 10 body bulider or in a professional sport????

This argument has no end and can go in circles.

Although one can question the use of PEDS at any level, the focus of this thread, as posed by the OP, was whether INSULIN is worthy of considering as a adjunct to casual AAS use.

I think NOT and the evidence to date supports that assertion IMO.

Jim
 
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@mands
Are you an insulin dependent diabetic?
How do you avoid this?
What can realistically be put on with the addition of insulin(+gh+AAS)?
Lots of questions
 
That's pretty funny considering you tag both of us to answer even the most basic of questions.

The latest example:

Androderm patch question to increase T levels...?

So in the future I will minimize my LOVE of writing on here and ignore your desperate pleas for help when you tag me. No skin off my back.
YEs I know that was the most simple question on meso. But maybe to others it would of been helpful.... But i am not saying youre a asshole or dick. I just sseee you twisting words and stuff but saying the same thing. I called you out on it before and you agrees. But it is what it is.
 
That's pretty funny considering you tag both of us to answer even the most basic of questions.

The latest example:

Androderm patch question to increase T levels...?

So in the future I will minimize my LOVE of writing on here and ignore your desperate pleas for help when you tag me. No skin off my back.
Also in no way was that a plea for help. You didnt even know the answer. but regardless gooday.

I asked if it would increase test. You say if left on it can produce welt......this is exactly what I am saying.
 
This is why I love Meso... I am impressed with everyone's thoughts.

I agree this discussion could go on and on due to different opinions. I would like to state (for the record) that I personally think slin is simply too dangerous for me and I personally never experienced much in the way of results when I incorporated it into my cycles.

I had to revisit the topic however simply because it warrants discussion and as I said, you guys haven't disappointed! Respect to everyone who has voiced their thoughts. :D
 
This is why I love Meso... I am impressed with everyone's thoughts.

I agree this discussion could go on and on due to different opinions. I would like to state (for the record) that I personally think slin is simply too dangerous for me and I personally never experienced much in the way of results when I incorporated it into my cycles.

I had to revisit the topic however simply because it warrants discussion and as I said, you guys haven't disappointed! Respect to everyone who has voiced their thoughts. :D


Hey that fact very few if any of Mesos seasoned vets use Slin in any capacity speaks volumes IMO

And those that have are less than impressed the "results" are demonstrable, or worth what is likely to be required, pinning supraphysiologic doses of an endogenous hormone to coincide with fluctuations in serum glucose changes AND caloric intake.
 
Another topic I'd like to see discussion on is directed at you guys who either use or have used DNP...

I believe DNP use lowers insulin production (if I'm mistaken I'm sure I'll be schooled). This being the case is insulin used during a cycle of DNP?

For the record I am more terrified of DNP than I am of slin and I couldn't imagine being on both...I'm convinced I would go into a coma then spontaneously combust!

Just stirring the pot a bit! :eek:
 
Another topic I'd like to see discussion on is directed at you guys who either use or have used DNP...

I believe DNP use lowers insulin production (if I'm mistaken I'm sure I'll be schooled). This being the case is insulin used during a cycle of DNP?

For the record I am more terrified of DNP than I am of slin and I couldn't imagine being on both...I'm convinced I would go into a coma then spontaneously combust!

Just stirring the pot a bit! :eek:

Dan Duchaine original theory for dnp was to use it with insulin to refill glycogen stores after dnp depletes them
 
First time used slin was on Test, Tren only b/c couldn't afford GH. 2nd time used with Test, EQ and I incorporated Igf-1 and ghrp-6. Will never use slin again unless I have HGH...

I assume from your question that you have experience with GH and insulin? Results? Thoughts?

Did you use GH w/ the insulin with AAS ?
 
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