Insulin cycle and protocol

[gr8whitetrukker]

First time used slin was on Test, Tren only b/c couldn't afford GH. 2nd time used with Test, EQ and I incorporated Igf-1 and ghrp-6. Will never use slin again unless I have HGH...

I assume from your question that you have experience with GH and insulin? Results? Thoughts?

No experience. Im being opened minded about it. This hasnt ALWAYS been my stance mind you. Still in the massive research stage. But i will note there isnt ANYTHING ive read where AAS+INSULIN is effective. Its always AAS+GH+INSULIN. GH being the key component. I was hoping to have a discussion but all the ppl i know who are using that combination will not respond to this thread.

 

[TRT]

I'm collecting everything I need now for Test, Tren, GH, and insulin. Gonna try this for myself. Just not entirely sure how much GH I should take. (How much can you afford answer I see coming) haha

 

[bigrobbie]

How about Igf and ghrp? I did experience pretty ridiculous pumps with slin and growth factor... But I cannot make a pure assessment as I was also on AAS. One would need to do a controlled experiment with insulin + Igf-1

No experience. Im being opened minded about it. This hasnt ALWAYS been my stance mind you. Still in the massive research stage. But i will note there isnt ANYTHING ive read where AAS+INSULIN is effective. Its always AAS+GH+INSULIN. GH being the key component. I was hoping to have a discussion but all the ppl i know who are using that combination will not respond to this thread.

 

[bigrobbie]

I'm collecting everything I need now for Test, Tren, GH, and insulin. Gonna try this for myself. Just not entirely sure how much GH I should take. (How much can you afford answer I see coming) haha

Yea bro GH is crazy expensive... again, wanna hear thoughts on insulin+Igf-1 as a possible alternative, albeit probably less effective, to insulin+HGH.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I'm collecting everything I need now for Test, Tren, GH, and insulin. Gonna try this for myself. Just not entirely sure how much GH I should take. (How much can you afford answer I see coming) haha

@Wunderpus
Is one of those guys that has the experience you need.
@mands is another but he wont respond.
@weighted chinup just got done with a low dose AAS+insulin+GH cycle. Had his log posted in the "cycle log" section. He has a little experience.
@ChestRockwell has experience but has remained suprisingly reserved this entire time
@fodsod has that experience i believe as well. Would like to hear from him
@Mustang_18 too!

 

[bigrobbie]

Ok...here we go:

Growth hormone, insulin-like growth factor 1, and insulin signaling—a pharmacological target in body wasting and cachexia

 

[Leangains4life]

Just dont use slin add something else. Sin is made for diabetics lol

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Just dont use slin add something else. Sin is made for diabetics lol

And Equipose is made for horses and tren was made for cattle and GH was made for AIDS victims and midgets. And anadrol was made to treat anemia.

While your advice is meant for good intention it is just as ridiculous as all the above and why a perfectly healthy adult would use them for "alternative" purposes

You dont cycle do you? Tisk tisk

 

[bigrobbie]

And Equipose is made for horses and tren was made for cattle and GH was made for AIDS victims and midgets. And anadrol was made to treat anemia.

While your advice is meant for good intention it is just as ridiculous as all the above and why a perfectly healthy adult would use them for "alternative" purposes

You dont cycle do you? Tisk tisk

Hang on guys...gotta pop some popcorn cause some stuff is bout ta happen (fingers crossed ) ;-)

 

[Leangains4life]

And Equipose is made for horses and tren was made for cattle and GH was made for AIDS victims and midgets. And anadrol was made to treat anemia.

While your advice is meant for good intention it is just as ridiculous as all the above and why a perfectly healthy adult would use them for "alternative" purposes

You dont cycle do you? Tisk tisk

Thing is an idiot using slin without knowledge is gonna kill himself soon or anotherday.. u jab it lowers sugar NO MATER WHAT jab some tren or eq you will not die..

Insulin the only way to combat it is carbs, but lots of idiots dont know howmuch insulin actually lowers ur bloodsugar and by that time you feel it its almost too late and u go into hypo and u feen for carbs and u loose all the energy u had..

 

[Wunderpus]

I'm collecting everything I need now for Test, Tren, GH, and insulin. Gonna try this for myself. Just not entirely sure how much GH I should take. (How much can you afford answer I see coming) haha

Okay, so if you asked me six months ago, I'd agree... As much as you can afford. But, the more I learn about your body's ability to utilize the exo. GH, the more I think TOO much is unnecessary. For a bulk, here's what I'd do:

7.5iu GH/day... 2.5iu AM (as early as possible, either do your fasted cardio or just don't eat for 2 hours if you can), 2.5iu pre lift w/ your insulin (humulin would be my go to here), and 2.5iu pre bed. You COULD up the pre workout hGH if you like, but, if it's quality GH, I think 2.5iu is okay.

 

[Wunderpus]

Thing is an idiot using slin without knowledge is gonna kill himself soon or anotherday.. u jab it lowers sugar NO MATER WHAT jab some tren or eq you will not die..

Insulin the only way to combat it is carbs, but lots of idiots dont know howmuch insulin actually lowers ur bloodsugar and by that time you feel it its almost too late and u go into hypo and u feen for carbs and u loose all the energy u had..

Have you gone hypo before? It's rather easy to prevent, and, you ought to have fast carbs on hand ANYWAY (Gatorade, candy, glucose tabs, whatever). So, even if you start to feel hypo, you can treat ASAP.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Thing is an idiot using slin without knowledge is gonna kill himself soon or anotherday.. u jab it lowers sugar NO MATER WHAT jab some tren or eq you will not die..

Insulin the only way to combat it is carbs, but lots of idiots dont know howmuch insulin actually lowers ur bloodsugar and by that time you feel it its almost too late and u go into hypo and u feen for carbs and u loose all the energy u had..

Then lets talk. Harm reduction remember?
Im gonna get this convo moving one way or the other...

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Okay, so if you asked me six months ago, I'd agree... As much as you can afford. But, the more I learn about your body's ability to utilize the exo. GH, the more I think TOO much is unnecessary. For a bulk, here's what I'd do:

7.5iu GH/day... 2.5iu AM (as early as possible, either do your fasted cardio or just don't eat for 2 hours if you can), 2.5iu pre lift w/ your insulin (humulin would be my go to here), and 2.5iu pre bed. You COULD up the pre workout hGH if you like, but, if it's quality GH, I think 2.5iu is okay.

For those on an AM workout schedule would it be possible to split that 7.5iu of GH between preworkout and bed time?
If so how does that change the insulin regimen?

 

[Wunderpus]

For those on an AM workout schedule would it be possible to split that 7.5iu of GH between preworkout and bed time?
If so how does that change the insulin regimen?

I think that would be fine, for sure. I'd do 4.5 pre workout, and 3 before bed in this case... The AM dose I was suggesting was solely for fat burning/keeping fat off while bulking (nice little tool IME). It's not 'necessary' like the pre workout and pre bed hGH are, IMO.


I was just using my "best case scenario" for myself. Personally, I like the GH as spread out as possible. But, you also need to live your life.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

(humulin would be my go to here)

Wouldnt humalog be the preferred type for a beginner due to its shorter duration(6-8hrs) compared to humulin's duration(8-12hrs)?

 

[Leangains4life]

Have you gone hypo before? It's rather easy to prevent, and, you ought to have fast carbs on hand ANYWAY (Gatorade, candy, glucose tabs, whatever). So, even if you start to feel hypo, you can treat ASAP.

I gone hypo many times... as a diabetic whos body make no insuline, i cant imagine someone normal jabin slin would go hypo faster..

 

[Wunderpus]

I gone hypo many times... as a diabetic whos body make no insuline, i cant imagine someone normal jabin slin would go hypo faster..

Not sure, but, it's scary for sure. I can definitely feel it coming, though...

 

[Wunderpus]

Wouldnt humalog be the preferred type for a beginner due to its shorter duration(6-8hrs) compared to humulin's duration(8-12hrs)?

Yes and no. Humalog is more "dangerous" as it's peak is much faster and more intense. I find humulin to be more mild and less intense peaks... But, the active life is a factor. However, humulin has the advantage of peaking both intra, and post, workout... Which, I like.

 

[ChestRockwell]

Again, there is some dramatization of insulin's inherent dangers in this thread. I'm aware of only a single case study in literature of a bodybuilder giving himself brain damage from insulin use (and he was injecting it via IV), so making claims about how it is easy to kill yourself if you don't know what you are doing is pretty over-the-top.

This is, by no means, a pro-insulin post but rather a plea to keep this within the bounds of reality so we aren't letting this discussion get into unrealistic pro/con extremes...