Is it ethical to donate blood while on steroids?

[M. Tugboat]

When they take your info they ask if you have pinned a needle or something like that.

I know that donating blood helps with high blood pressure while on AAS but is it ethical to do so, considering that we pin at least by weekly?

Also, does taking an AI have any negative effects on the recipient of the blood?

 

[puckhog]

When they take your info they ask if you have pinned a needle or something like that.

I know that donating blood helps with high blood pressure while on AAS but is it ethical to do so, considering that we pin at least by weekly?

Also, does taking an AI have any negative effects on the recipient of the blood?

Yes, one of the questions the computer will ask is if you have injected drugs or steroids not prescribed by your physician.
Just answer “no”.

I think it is fine to donate while “on.” It is beneficial for you and beneficial to the recipient. Go donate sir!

I don’t know about the AI

 

[Logan44551]

Ethics are in the eye of the beholder. What I consider ethical, may very well not be for someone else. As for the AI they have a list of medications they ask if you have taken recently. I don't recall seeing any AI's on there, but if they are then yes it would be unethical to donate.

 

[M. Tugboat]

Yes, one of the questions the computer will ask is if you have injected drugs or steroids not prescribed by your physician.
Just answer “no”.

I think it is fine to donate while “on.” It is beneficial for you and beneficial to the recipient. Go donate sir!

I don’t know about the AI

But could the high test harm the recipient though?

 

[M. Tugboat]

Ethics are in the eye of the beholder. What I consider ethical, may very well not be for someone else. As for the AI they have a list of medications they ask if you have taken recently. I don't recall seeing any AI's on there, but if they are then yes it would be unethical to donate.

They also say that you should not have pinned anything, so in your POV is that unethical?

 

[Eman]

Due to a medical condition, my dad has to receive blood transfusions on a fairly frequent basis. Now, I've never asked him whether he feels AAS users donating blood is ethical however, I can sure assure you that he's grateful to those that donate. The red cross often has sounds signs that say they need donors... And I know that most AAS users aren't donating out of kindness, but it's an important thing to do for people who need it. If there was some sort of shortage in supply, he would die a very uncomfortable death.

There is an old ethics/morality question: would you steal bread to feed your starving family. Is it ethical? If you look at all the taught principals of ethics, stealing bread to feed your family is morally justified. Although there isn't a smooth transition into the OP's form of that ethics question, it would still be generally morally justified as long as there is no known health implications for the recipient receiving your blood - I'm unaware of any.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

In my country they only ask if you have used any growth hormone products. No talk about steroids. I think its ethical yes. We give couple of liters no way they're contain so high amounts of androgens to harm a patient.

 

[M. Tugboat]

Due to a medical condition, my dad has to receive blood transfusions on a fairly frequent basis. Now, I've never asked him whether he feels AAS users donating blood is ethical however, I can sure assure you that he's grateful to those that donate. The red cross often has sounds signs that say they need donors... And I know that most AAS users aren't donating out of kindness, but it's an important thing to do for people who need it. If there was some sort of shortage in supply, he would die a very uncomfortable death.

There is an old ethics/morality question: would you steal bread to feed your starving family. Is it ethical? If you look at all the taught principals of ethics, stealing bread to feed your family is morally justified. Although there isn't a smooth transition into the OP's form of that ethics question, it would still be generally morally justified as long as there is no known health implications for the recipient receiving your blood - I'm unaware of any.

The first time I donated blood it was a month or two before my 17th birthday, I lied about my age, I can't say that I did it purely out of altruism because I got days off from school and the job but ever since then I used to donate blood every couple months, and I even donated platelets one or two times (the other times I went for platelets they didn't have anyone who knows how to operate the machinery).

In general I like donating blood, and they called me today because their supply is low but after that it dawned on me that maybe I could hurt someone and I felt really bummed out that I couldn't help, but that's a nice point of view that you offered.

 

[M. Tugboat]

In my country they only ask if you have used any growth hormone products. No talk about steroids. I think its ethical yes. We give couple of liters no way they're contain so high amounts of androgens to harm a patient.

What's their beef with HGH? The only thing that comes to mind is that if you have cancer it can worsen it.

And I am under the impression that they are against every kind of self injection.

 

[Eman]

What's their beef with HGH? The only thing that comes to mind is that if you have cancer it can worsen it.

And I am under the impression that they are against every kind of self injection.

HGH used to be obtained through cadavers. It was given to people with stunted growth... Unfortunately, some of the cadaver sourced GH contained a disease called CJD (Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease). This was passed onto the GH recipients. Due to liability concerns, they still don't allow GH users to donate... Even though this all occurred in the 80's.

 

[Btcowboy]

I donate regularly and B&C. Yes lying could be considered unethical. However I have heard that processing of the blood the amounts of hormone when given to a recipient is extremely low to non existent. I have nothing to back this up however.

The biggest issue I see is that they have no way to know you are clean and sterile, use clean and unshared needles. Hence why the ask if you have injected. Also why they wont let you donate if you had a piercing, tattoo or surgery recently.

 

[puckhog]

But could the high test harm the recipient though?

No. Here is why. The saturation of testosterone in the blood you are donating is only 1 unit. You are only donating 1 unit of blood. The patients entire blood volume is 5 times that. So essentially there is very, very little testosterone going into the patient. If the patient was getting a transfusion entirely of your blood, then yes, that could potentially cause an issue. Especially for a female. Does that make sense?


Another way to think about it....

Take a tbsp of salt and put it in a 1oz cup of water = salty as fuk

Take a tbsp of salt and put it in 5 gallons of water = not so salty.

 

[Dead]

Idk but they love my blood they never stop calling me

 

[M. Tugboat]

HGH used to be obtained through cadavers. It was given to people with stunted growth... Unfortunately, some of the cadaver sourced GH contained a disease called CJD (Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease). This was passed onto the GH recipients. Due to liability concerns, they still don't allow GH users to donate... Even though this all occurred in the 80's.

Well I'll be damned... You must be a walking Wikipedia of cycling

 

[M. Tugboat]

No. Here is why. The saturation of testosterone in the blood you are donating is only 1 unit. You are only donating 1 unit of blood. The patients entire blood volume is 5 times that. So essentially there is very, very little testosterone going into the patient. If the patient was getting a transfusion entirely of your blood, then yes, that could potentially cause an issue. Especially for a female. Does that make sense?


Another way to think about it....

Take a tbsp of salt and put it in a 1oz cup of water = salty as fuk

Take a tbsp of salt and put it in 5 gallons of water = not so salty.

What if they give the blood to a baby?
That way isnt the ratio all messed up?

 

[M. Tugboat]

Idk but they love my blood they never stop calling me

Maybe you have a rare blood type or something?

 

[M. Tugboat]

I donate regularly and B&C. Yes lying could be considered unethical. However I have heard that processing of the blood the amounts of hormone when given to a recipient is extremely low to non existent. I have nothing to back this up however.

The biggest issue I see is that they have no way to know you are clean and sterile, use clean and unshared needles. Hence why the ask if you have injected. Also why they wont let you donate if you had a piercing, tattoo or surgery recently.

I always thought that if there was a problem with your blood they'd tell you to stop donating, do they test the blood before giving it to someone? Like maybe you had HIV and you did not know it somehow, or some other disease

 

[Multislacking]

Another way to think about it....

Take a tbsp of salt and put it in a 1oz cup of water = salty as fuk

Take a tbsp of salt and put it in 5 gallons of water = not so salty.

^ This. You're talking about very minute amounts getting to recipient.

What if they give the blood to a baby?
That way isnt the ratio all messed up?

Chances are they wouldn't be giving a baby a whole unit of your blood. Again, it would be a percentage.

Ethics wise, I see no issue with it. Lots of aas guys donate and you NEVER hear about any issues resulting from it.

 

[M. Tugboat]

^ This. You're talking about very minute amounts getting to recipient.



Chances are they wouldn't be giving a baby a whole unit of your blood. Again, it would be a percentage.

Ethics wise, I see no issue with it. Lots of aas guys donate and you NEVER hear about any issues resulting from it.

But what are the chances of something going wrong and tracking down whose blood was it to find the culprit?

And about the baby thing, do they mix random peoples blood together and give it to someone?

 

[puckhog]

What if they give the blood to a baby?
That way isnt the ratio all messed up?

That is an interesting point. I think you are overthinking things. I am a master of overthinking. Lol. Somebody here told me that recently. They weren’t wrong.
I am O- and donate regularly. They test the blood before giving it to patients. Go take care of yourself, let the docs take care of the other patient.