Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge

[muscle96ss]

That sample did not come from Serono. Seriously... who was the person with AIDS or dwarfism who walked into a US pharmacy to purchase it directly? Oh that's right! It was purchased from an online pharmacy and is likely a counterfeit!

Prove that it did not come from Serono. I guess everything that doesn't test as it should you just dismiss to being counterfeit. Sort of like when Colt was told his Genotropin was underdosed 50%; only his IGF-1 levels proved that it was Jim's tests that were bogus, not the Genos.

 

[muscle96ss]

You mean the code that does not self destruct and can literally be photo copied and pasted on a hundred counterfeit boxes of HGH?

More excuses. I haven't seen a good looking counterfeit of Serostims in years. If that were the case they would be mass produced and you would see them all over the place.

 

[Sdryx]

I have zero knowledge of the past so I cannot comment nor defend anything other than what I have observed myself, being the current testing.

If the Serono is tested as 50% dosed, then that would imply MOST GENERICS are better than pharma as they tested generally higher than 50% dosed.

I just can't find the logic in that.

 

[MassTurk]

Most of the questions could be answered a lot shorter with a "I don't keep any but the most necessary documentation."

My fault for trying to go in depth.

You may be able to do what you claim. Your inconsistency only hurts your business.For your test to hold ground in the underworld ,where there is no honor among thiefs, Your reputation should be impeccable. You don't care to do that when you can't or won't show proof of your work. Your words are like Monopoly money only worth with in its own universe. In real world you will need concrete proof all the time not only when it's convenient for you. I'm done interacting with you. You hold zero credibility so far of what you can prove. Let The sheep feed you. You are exposed for what you are. An inconsistent wanna be lab with no real quality control for your tests to be valid. Good luck with your adventure. It won't last long

 

[Sdryx]

The Counterfeit Report

EMD acknowledged current counterfeits recently!

 

[muscle96ss]

I have zero knowledge of the past so I cannot comment nor defend anything other than what I have observed myself, being the current testing.

If the Serono is tested as 50% dosed, then that would imply MOST GENERICS are better than pharma as they tested generally higher than 50% dosed.

I just can't find the logic in that.

Or the $75 test has faults because it is not sophisticated enough to separate things out properly and because it is not used by the pharma companies for quantification of their products. If Jim is going to say that is being used by them as he did yesterday, he had better post some proof because he is lying(which nobody seems to care).

 

[PrideofNYC123]

The Counterfeit Report

EMD acknowledged current counterfeits recently!

Different lot number


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[muscle96ss]

The Counterfeit Report

EMD acknowledged current counterfeits recently!

Expires 5/2016, not a recent product as I stated.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Prove that it did not come from Serono.

You're asking to prove a negative.

I guess everything that doesn't test as it should you just dismiss to being counterfeit. Sort of like when Colt was told his Genotropin was underdosed 50%; only his IGF-1 levels proved that it was Jim's tests that were bogus, not the Genos.

You've had to twist yourself into a pretzel in order to make Jano's story sound credible but when it comes to Jim, you have no problem calling his tests bogus.

Your hypocrisy is obvious to everyone, MH.

 

[rpbb]

Or the $75 test has faults because it is not sophisticated enough to separate things out properly and because it is not used by the pharma companies for quantification of their products. If Jim is going to say that is being used by them as he did yesterday, he had better post some proof because he is lying(which nobody seems to care).

you should be more concerned about jano's lies, but considering that you're a lying fraud shill as well, I can see where you'd think that would be ok

 

[Eman]

The Counterfeit Report

EMD acknowledged current counterfeits recently!

I find it unlikely it was counterfeited if it was 50% underdosed. Seems more likely to me it would be completely bunk if it was counterfeited.

I'm interested to see how that sample turns out.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Or the $75 test has faults because it is not sophisticated enough to separate things out properly and because it is not used by the pharma companies for quantification of their products. If Jim is going to say that is being used by them as he did yesterday, he had better post some proof because he is lying(which nobody seems to care).

Deflection.

 

[muscle96ss]

You're asking to prove a negative.



You've had to twist yourself into a pretzel in order to make Jano's story sound credible but when it comes to Jim, you have no problem calling his tests bogus.

Your hypocrisy is obvious to everyone, MH.

Thats funny, you guys have yet to come up with an explanation for what happened to the package that mands sent that makes sense. You are simply going by the fact that the package was returned with the same contents, but ignoring Janos explanation. That would be fine if you could come up with an alternate explanation of what you think transpired but you have yet to do that. Was the package seized? If so, why would they return a seized package and why does the tracking say refused and returned to sender. If it was refused and returned to sended than why would Jano say it was seized to both mands and I and then say he got it and tested it, when he knows its going back to a legit address. In addition why would he refuse the package; whats his benefit? You say he is a scammer; how much money did he actually scam? Mands didn't pay a dime, has his GH back, and Jano didn't make a penny. So its kind of hard to defend allegations that are lacking in substance. Jano said he will post the lab report later and that he doesn't have the raw data saved. What more do you want from him as proof? Why don't you first provide and actual story of what you think happened that makes sense before you try and throw someones business under the bus.

 

[PrideofNYC123]

Thats funny, you guys have yet to come up with an explanation for what happened to the package that mands sent that makes sense. You are simply going by the fact that the package was returned with the same contents, but ignoring Janos explanation. That would be fine if you could come up with an alternate explanation of what you think transpired but you have yet to do that. Was the package seized? If so, why would they return a seized package and why does the tracking say refused and returned to sender. If it was refused and returned to sended than why would Jano say it was seized to both mands and I and then say he got it and tested it, when he knows its going back to a legit address. In addition why would he refuse the package; whats his benefit? You say he is a scammer; how much money did he actually scam? Mands didn't pay a dime, has his GH back, and Jano didn't make a penny. So its kind of hard to defend allegations that are lacking in substance. Jano said he will post the lab report later and that he doesn't have the raw data saved. What more do you want from him as proof? Why don't you first provide and actual story of what you think happened that makes sense before you try and throw someones business under the bus.

The issue I have is that Jano said he tested a vial from Mand's 3, but Mands said the pack arrived opened, but exactly how he had packed it, so that doesn't add up. Also, if your reputation is on the line and testing is your income then it would make sense to get the lab report out now, not when you decide to make time to get back to the lab.

 

[muscle96ss]

The issue I have is that Jano said he tested a vial from Mand's 3, but Mands said the pack arrived opened, but exactly how he had packed it, so that doesn't add up. Also, if your reputation is on the line and testing is your income then it would make sense to get the lab report out now, not when you decide to make time to get back to the lab.

So that would mean that customs seized the package without actually examining the contents. Does that make any sense?

 

[Dr JIM]

Created an account here just to say I already blind tested Jano. I sent him something, mixed with something else he already had tested, and didn't tell him about it.
It came out alright.
I will always keep on doing such thing to him. I find a little bit of skepticism to be healthy in a business relationship. Thus the reason I test products chinese send me and so on.

Hope all is well with you Jano.

Well great but unless you can post something much more than; "hey Clavin I tested your something with my something and here are your results" in numerical prose …… it only reinforces the fraudulent accusations levied by Mands.

I mean Calvin were you so gullible as to believe a "result" is all thats required to prove
credibility on behalf of Jano, didn't he send you ANY graphic data.

You care to elaborate on what your "something mixed with something" was for Meso readers ……… Sorry Calvin buts its called credibility and although minimal yours is BETTER than Jano's at this juncture

 

[PrideofNYC123]

So that would mean that customs seized the package without actually examining the contents. Does that make any sense?

It doesn't, but neither does his story that he was given the package then asked to return it. Add to the fact that he happened to have an extra #17.

 

[rpbb]

Thats funny, you guys have yet to come up with an explanation for what happened to the package that mands sent that makes sense. You are simply going by the fact that the package was returned with the same contents, but ignoring Janos explanation. That would be fine if you could come up with an alternate explanation of what you think transpired but you have yet to do that. Was the package seized? If so, why would they return a seized package and why does the tracking say refused and returned to sender. If it was refused and returned to sended than why would Jano say it was seized to both mands and I and then say he got it and tested it, when he knows its going back to a legit address. In addition why would he refuse the package; whats his benefit? You say he is a scammer; how much money did he actually scam? Mands didn't pay a dime, has his GH back, and Jano didn't make a penny. So its kind of hard to defend allegations that are lacking in substance. Jano said he will post the lab report later and that he doesn't have the raw data saved. What more do you want from him as proof? Why don't you first provide and actual story of what you think happened that makes sense before you try and throw someones business under the bus.

do the sources at pm pay you by the word, that's the only way you can be that full of shit

 

[muscle96ss]

It doesn't, but neither does his story that he was given the package then asked to return it. Add to the fact that he happened to have an extra #17.

He has an extra #17 because he does testing for TP. TP always ships 2 vials in case 1 gets broken; hence an extra #17 and the reason he had mands ship 3 vials(1 to be tested elsewhere and 2 for him). But you are correct in that there has yet to be a story that makes 100% sense from either side; which I think has a lot to do with not knowing how customs works in Jano's country.

 

[muscle96ss]

do the sources at pm pay you by the word, that's the only way you can be that full of shit

Continue to go fuck yourself rpbb!!