Yeah, but I feel they doctored the samples they sent to simec to discredit them, so they could rely on janos fake tests
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Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge
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muscle96ss
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You are a complete fucking moron. Take your idiotic negative IQ ass and go fuck yourself. Most likely your mom died of suicide for having to listen to your stupid ass every day. I know if my children came out as dumb as you I would jump off a bridge.
wow, that was very hurtful, but I know you're just lashing out, because you've been exposed as a fraud and a liar, and that has to be hard to deal with
muscle96ss
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No, I am actually being completely truthful when I say I can't imagine being as dumb as you. I really didn't think it was possible for a grown man to be this stupid and feel sorry for those that have to put up with you in real life on a daily basis.
the only truth you live by, is the one that your paid to promote. give it up, you've been exposed as a fraud and a liar
The samples were sent to RP at PM. As someone who donated vials, I know I didn't tamper with them and RP took pics of the products before shipping with the tops still attached.
In theory, he could have tampered with them, but that would consist of adding gh to each vial. That wouldn't make sense.
You can also find the pharmatropin simec result which shows 16iu/vial and we all know that isn't the case so it seems at least one of their techs doesn't know how to properly test gh.
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muscle96ss
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Prove with even the slightest bit of evidence that I have ever made even a dime off any sponsor promotion or sales. I swear on my family's life that it has NEVER taken place. The only paycheck I receive is from Medicare for services rendered. Mands even stated that he did not think I was involved in any drug sales. Why don't you listen to him on that?
muscle96ss
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This makes too much sense for his tiny brain to comprehend. He will simply respond back that I am a liar and fraud.
like I said, you would have actually earned some respect around here if you hadn't backed up janos lies, but shilling was more important to you
muscle96ss
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Bro, you will never respect me. You have been at me for a couple years with same ignorant shit. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and smacked you in the face. You have been wrong about me in everything you have ever posted and you can search my reputation on other boards and I dare you to find even one bit of negative info about me. I am not trying to brag but will always stand up for what is right and come down hard on those that try to do wrong.
Perhaps you missed the last bit of evidence I posted, looks like Jano somehow knew what batch number was in the package he didn't receive. Please explain that in a logical manner. Perhaps, as outlandish as his story may sound to you, it is true. There is no concrete evidence that has been posted that contradicts his story yet. While on the other hand there has been quite a bit of evidence posted that confirms his story. Why would I call someone, whom I consider a friend and who has proven to be trustworthy to me, a liar when there is no concrete evidence of him lying?
I have come down hard on friends before when they have done something wrong and would do the same to Jano if I truly felt that he did something wrong. Just ask PD about our incident with a green top GH several years ago.
You may disagree with me, and you are entitled to. You may not understand my reasoning as my brain works differently than most. But that doesn't make me a liar or a fraud. So just chill out and realize that I don't have any financial or other motives here aside from trying to do what is best for the community.
you're right, I don't believe you. and there's plenty of concrete evidence, but you feel that you can talk your way out of anything. and good job, you've lost the only guy here that was defending you, mands
I have followed from beginning jackass. You are the one thats posting useless things, Or are following up my useless shit with more. Hypocrit.
They have bee going back and forth about this shit for monnths. It has been about the same shit. Nothing has changed. Jano was a fraud from beginning. If you didnt know that from day one. Youre a dumbass.
GearGodess
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Here is what I think happened and I have known of several individuals who work in customs in that department, postal system as well as know of several people who had things seized...
This whole dramatic story from Jano is just some bullshit story to make him look good and powerful... or so he thought!
Based on the tracking, Jano is a liar. He falsified testing as he never got the package in the first place and tried to sound like a hero that he fought customs for it. That's pure bullshit. In my experience with Canadian, European and even US customs is this...
When package if first held up, it's due to lack of information on forms. They don't open the package. They check the paperwork and try to contact the sender for more info which in this case was for value of the goods being imported to determine duty owed. They typically store it in a distribution center or holding area till figured out. That's even before it arrives in the destination country. If they can't contact sender then they ask the addressee. It could have also been an issue of incomplete address of the receiver which needed clarification. IF they open the box which needed to raise suspicion first, which that wasn't the case, by law, customs MUST put a red label and tape it back up that states "opened by customs". OR get a letter sent out about seizure asking for more info which obviously you don't reply or contact them/turn yourself in. They also store the package and not trash it. Mands didn't say anything about his package looking odd when he got it back. And finally, there was probably duty to be paid and Jano wasn't willing to pay or pick up for whatever reason. So it was sent back untouched. If it was unclaimed or rejected and no sender info then it goes to a center (post office) where they index and store it hoping someone will claim. I believe that they keep it there for a year or more. And obviously package is tagged in the system as undeliverable but unopened.
So in conclusion, Jano = dirty bullshit liar!
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This whole dramatic story from Jano is just some bullshit story to make him look good and powerful... or so he thought!
Based on the tracking, Jano is a liar. He falsified testing as he never got the package in the first place and tried to sound like a hero that he fought customs for it. That's pure bullshit. In my experience with Canadian, European and even US customs is this...
When package if first held up, it's due to lack of information on forms. They don't open the package. They check the paperwork and try to contact the sender for more info which in this case was for value of the goods being imported to determine duty owed. They typically store it in a distribution center or holding area till figured out. That's even before it arrives in the destination country. If they can't contact sender then they ask the addressee. It could have also been an issue of incomplete address of the receiver which needed clarification. IF they open the box which needed to raise suspicion first, which that wasn't the case, by law, customs MUST put a red label and tape it back up that states "opened by customs". OR get a letter sent out about seizure asking for more info which obviously you don't reply or contact them/turn yourself in. They also store the package and not trash it. Mands didn't say anything about his package looking odd when he got it back. And finally, there was probably duty to be paid and Jano wasn't willing to pay or pick up for whatever reason. So it was sent back untouched. If it was unclaimed or rejected and no sender info then it goes to a center (post office) where they index and store it hoping someone will claim. I believe that they keep it there for a year or more. And obviously package is tagged in the system as undeliverable but unopened.
So in conclusion, Jano = dirty bullshit liar!
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muscle96ss
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Nice explanation except for that fact that mands already admitted that the package had been OPENED when he received it back and the fact that Jano knew what batch# the contents were. I'm anxiously waiting your explanation of those FACTS!
The thread was started December 21st....
I never was involved with Jano. Never knew much about him... But, he always seemed like a used car salesman to me.
Eman
Master
I saw you mention that before but where did you catch that he knew the batch #? I must have missed it before.
GearGodess
Well-known Member
I'm going off what tracking says plus what I know customs and post office does. I know for a fact that if customs opened it, they MUST indicate it on the package when they pass it through.
I have nothing against you but when I see bullshit, I will point it out.
As for batch numbers... that douche has been challenging results from Mands (from my understanding) so that wasn't a secret.
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muscle96ss
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Still waiting for some concrete explainable evidence, perhaps you can list it out and make it clear for me.
As far as mands goes, you are never going to find 2 people that agree on every issue. That doesn't mean one person is bad and the other is good. If in the end it turns out that mands was wrong, I won't think any less of him. I know that he is here for the right reasons and has been sticking to his guns because he truly believes what he is saying. Just the same, if it turns out that I was somehow fooled and am wrong, then I will openly admit it; but it doesn't mean I am a bad person or change who I am; I am just sticking up for what I believe in.
I know Jano better than anybody on this board and have seen his work and talk directly to him in real time. That obviously carries a lot of weight to me and I can see how people here don't like Jano because he has butted heads with Jim from the start. So obviously people here are going to have a negative bias and finds ways to find fault in him when there is a dispute between him and another member who is a pillar of the community.
muscle96ss
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But you are ignoring what mands told us. Mands stated that the package was OPENED. Secondly, you didn't explain how Jano gave mands the batch # he tested before it was posted publicly. In other words, Jano had no way of knowing what batch # was sent to him unless he saw the contents of the package.
