Jay Max Log (Switching from BB to PL and a place to BS)

[jaymaximus]

I haven't ran the TM so I have to ask - does it state to warm up using sets of 5 on your 5RM days??

Ill admit. Ive only read the Texas Method portion of practical programming so far. The only thing it says about warmups is drop volume if its effecting your actual workouts (ie you become stalled). I took my warm ups from the PLing part of optimizing strength training.
But i always try to keep it low in volume and low in weight so I can keep my energy for the actual workout. Especially since starting TM because its so well layed out between % and volume on each day so I already have a good idea of what i'll be doing (unlike bb workouts where you just kind of add weight or volume depending on how you feel that day).

 

[Docd187123]

Your weight jumps are too close to each other affecting your final set. 5RM day is basically just that, a 5RM. Your 5x5 Monday weight should begin around 70-80% of your Friday 5RM weight. From there you progress your 5RM day 5-10lbs each week.

Assuming 270lbs was your actual 5RM the day would have looked like this:

Bar x 2 sets for however many reps to get loose
135x5
185x3
225x1
270x5

 

[jaymaximus]

Your weight jumps are too close to each other affecting your final set. 5RM day is basically just that, a 5RM. Your 5x5 Monday weight should begin around 70-80% of your Friday 5RM weight. From there you progress your 5RM day 5-10lbs each week.

Assuming 270lbs was your actual 5RM the day would have looked like this:

Bar x 2 sets for however many reps to get loose
135x5
185x3
225x1
270x5

Thanks for that. I was actually meaning to ask you.
The "5RM" was actually new to me so I didnt know (since Im used to 1rm). Iwas reading the ebook and it talked about how to progress from 5 to 3 to 1, but less about actually finding it.

 

[Docd187123]

Thanks for that. I was actually meaning to ask you.
The "5RM" was actually new to me so I didnt know (since Im used to 1rm). Iwas reading the ebook and it talked about how to progress from 5 to 3 to 1, but less about actually finding it.

Ideally you test your 5RM and 5x5 maxes before hand but you can use one to get the other. Let's say your 5RM is about 275lbs on squat. You'll begin 5x5 workouts with 70-80% of that, in your case starting lighter would be better, so about 195lbs for 5x5 and the first few weeks you'd work up to your 5RM so you could begin that around 260lbs. Each week you add 5-10lbson your 5RM and you could also do that for 5x5 days also or you could add weight every other week. The goal is to get the largest discrepancy possible between 5RM days and 5x5 days in fsvor of the 5RM. What this does is it allows the least amount of volume to drive results. I'd personally just add 5lbs each week but you could do the every other week thing also

 

[jaymaximus]

Ideally you test your 5RM and 5x5 maxes before hand but you can use one to get the other. Let's say your 5RM is about 275lbs on squat. You'll begin 5x5 workouts with 70-80% of that, in your case starting lighter would be better, so about 195lbs for 5x5 and the first few weeks you'd work up to your 5RM so you could begin that around 260lbs. Each week you add 5-10lbson your 5RM and you could also do that for 5x5 days also or you could add weight every other week. The goal is to get the largest discrepancy possible between 5RM days and 5x5 days in fsvor of the 5RM. What this does is it allows the least amount of volume to drive results. I'd personally just add 5lbs each week but you could do the every other week thing also

Thats the plan right now. 5lbs per week. Keep it simple.

 

[insertnamehere]

Your weight jumps are too close to each other affecting your final set. 5RM day is basically just that, a 5RM. Your 5x5 Monday weight should begin around 70-80% of your Friday 5RM weight. From there you progress your 5RM day 5-10lbs each week.

Assuming 270lbs was your actual 5RM the day would have looked like this:

Bar x 2 sets for however many reps to get loose
135x5
185x3
225x1
270x5

Thanks, Doc!

 

[jaymaximus]

As far as I know that's the only difference. You want that shit out quick if the sides are to much. Pinning ED isn't to bad. Just gotta think gainz w/ every pin.

I think i've settled on test, npp, deca. Is it weird im already excited about my next cycle I havent pinned this one yet?

Also "woke up" today feeling like shit. Didnt sleep but maybe 2 hours. Cant talk because my throay is sore. If I dont feel better Im going to push my 1st pin back a few days. Was supposed to be tuesday.

 

[MindlessWork]

I think i've settled on test, npp, deca. Is it weird im already excited about my next cycle I havent pinned this one yet?

Also "woke up" today feeling like shit. Didnt sleep but maybe 2 hours. Cant talk because my throay is sore. If I dont feel better Im going to push my 1st pin back a few days. Was supposed to be tuesday.

Get some rest and drink plenty of water and juices.

 

[MindlessWork]

I think i've settled on test, npp, deca. Is it weird im already excited about my next cycle I havent pinned this one yet?

Also "woke up" today feeling like shit. Didnt sleep but maybe 2 hours. Cant talk because my throay is sore. If I dont feel better Im going to push my 1st pin back a few days. Was supposed to be tuesday.

Get some rest and drink plenty of water and juices.

 

[Seven]

I think i've settled on test, npp, deca. Is it weird im already excited about my next cycle I havent pinned this one yet?

Also "woke up" today feeling like shit. Didnt sleep but maybe 2 hours. Cant talk because my throay is sore. If I dont feel better Im going to push my 1st pin back a few days. Was supposed to be tuesday.

Both npp and deca??

You might as well start as planned bc its gonna be weeks before it really kicks in...I'm sure you know that.

 

[jaymaximus]

Both npp and deca??

You might as well start as planned bc its gonna be weeks before it really kicks in...I'm sure you know that.

True. I just didnt know if I wanted to stick myself while im feeling like death. But regardless might as well start now since itll be a good 2 weeks anyways. Good idea.

 

[Masters Power]

Your weight jumps are too close to each other affecting your final set. 5RM day is basically just that, a 5RM. Your 5x5 Monday weight should begin around 70-80% of your Friday 5RM weight. From there you progress your 5RM day 5-10lbs each week.

Assuming 270lbs was your actual 5RM the day would have looked like this:

Bar x 2 sets for however many reps to get loose
135x5
185x3
225x1
270x5

The good news is your actual 5RM's are higher than what you tested at because of the "over" warm up.

 

[jaymaximus]

The good news is your actual 5RM's are higher than what you tested at because of the "over" warm up.

Im calming down on my warm ups now. Just a few reps at 135 to get a "feel" for the weights before I jump in.

 

[jaymaximus]

Todays Workout:
Volume Day aka D.O.A.*

Been feeling like shit. I couldnt fall asleep until about 4am. Woke up thinking it was 9 or 10. Looked at the clock...it was 230 in the afternoon.
Usually volume day is tuesday but I wont be able to make it to the gym tuesday or wednesday, so today it is.

Squats
Warmup
135 x 10

250 5 x 5
Felt really good on the first 4. Got a little tired going into the last set, but it was more fatigue fatigue...not muscle fatigue.

OHP (planned on doing bench but both were being used and I didnt feel like waiting)

150 5 x 5

Bent Barbell Rows

175 5 x 5

Seated Calf Extensions
These arent part of the program, but my legs werent huge to begin with. All the squats and DLs have had a noticable effect on my quads, now my calves are lagging. (I read one article on PLing where the author was explaining how all the lifts helped all your various muscles. But he said unless you were genitically gifted with calves when it came to PLing you were SOL).

50 reps at 100lbs

Incline weighted situps
25 lbs x 50

I was tired as hell after. I hyped myself to go with PWO and sugar. But then I crashed. Now Im back in bed...ive fallin and I cant get up!

 

[jaymaximus]

Oh yeah. No gym PRs today like I said I was going to try in brutus's thread, but I set an eating PR. I was only awake for 8 hours and still managed to get down 6100 cals! Im proud of me.

 

[insertnamehere]

I hope you start feeling better soon! Oh, and thanks for exposing David Slaton - that guy is a riot! lol

 

[jaymaximus]

Update:
woke up feeling a lot better. Got a bad ass headache but thats from lack of sleep.

Pinned my 1st 300 of Test C. Vial had crashed a bit, so I had to warm it. But it mightve been my smoothest easiest inject ever...its on now!

I hope you start feeling better soon! Oh, and thanks for exposing David Slaton - that guy is a riot! lol

Man...I wish I hadnt. Im sure someone else wouldve, but that guy and his threads have taken over meso. And he is just so corny.

 

[insertnamehere]

Update:
woke up feeling a lot better. Got a bad ass headache but thats from lack of sleep.

Pinned my 1st 300 of Test C. Vial had crashed a bit, so I had to warm it. But it mightve been my smoothest easiest inject ever...its on now!



Man...I wish I hadnt. Im sure someone else wouldve, but that guy and his threads have taken over meso. And he is just so corny.

Yeah, I hear ya but I've just been having fun with it. He's such an ego maniac and like you say corny too, that I just couldn't help myself. Its getting boring now so I'll prob just let it alone.

Glad you're starting to feel better. Onward and upward!

 

[jaymaximus]

Todays Workout:
Recovery Day aka Wipe Me Down

Feeling a lot better today. Still not sleeping right, but Ill make it up over the long weekend. Work keeps making me switch my workout schedule, but it is what it is.

Squats
135 x 10 Warmup
225 5 x 3

I did my pin yesterday in my quad (all ive ever done before was glutes/delts). Like I said then, it was the easiest most pain free pin ever...until after my squats!

Paused Bench
185 x 10 Warmup

230 5 x 3

Close Hand Incline
165 5 x 3

Weighted Dips
45lbs 5 x 3
This was because I was running out of time. Had to get to "work"

Incline Situps
25lbs x 50

After all this I had to do an hour of crossfit for work. Fuck. Its not like its hard, but im not built for stamina. That plus my earlier workout had me at the toilet...not sitting.

Ive been reading some of the other logs and made a decision. I quit PL! @brutus79 @Frank the tank 456 and @theprodgicalson are lifting too much weight. And that doesnt include the stuff MP, Doc, and INH already do.

Im going to start doing yoga and going to spin class. Maybe put out an aerobics DVD...wearing spandex. Log to follow...

Also weighed in post PL workout (usually thats when I do it). Came in at 221. I dont know if it was water weight ive lost or the fact ive cut carbs. Ive dropped between 50 - 75 grams a day for the last week, still keeping cals the same though. Hopefully I can start putting this weight back on though.

 

[insertnamehere]

Todays Workout:
Recovery Day aka Wipe Me Down

Feeling a lot better today. Still not sleeping right, but Ill make it up over the long weekend. Work keeps making me switch my workout schedule, but it is what it is.

Squats
135 x 10 Warmup
225 5 x 3

I did my pin yesterday in my quad (all ive ever done before was glutes/delts). Like I said then, it was the easiest most pain free pin ever...until after my squats!

Paused Bench
185 x 10 Warmup

230 5 x 3

Close Hand Incline
165 5 x 3

Weighted Dips
45lbs 5 x 3
This was because I was running out of time. Had to get to "work"

Incline Situps
25lbs x 50

After all this I had to do an hour of crossfit for work. Fuck. Its not like its hard, but im not built for stamina. That plus my earlier workout had me at the toilet...not sitting.

Ive been reading some of the other logs and made a decision. I quit PL! @brutus79 @Frank the tank 456 and @theprodgicalson are lifting too much weight. And that doesnt include the stuff MP, Doc, and INH already do.

Im going to start doing yoga and going to spin class. Maybe put out an aerobics DVD...wearing spandex. Log to follow...

Also weighed in post PL workout (usually thats when I do it). Came in at 221. I dont know if it was water weight ive lost or the fact ive cut carbs. Ive dropped between 50 - 75 grams a day for the last week, still keeping cals the same though. Hopefully I can start putting this weight back on though.

I find that when it comes to getting stronger, whether or not a person competes, is that we're all really just in competition with ourselves.

I know you were joking about quitting but use others accomplishments as motivation to reach YOUR goals. If you keep going, you'll be amazed at how far and how strong you've become. Don't get discouraged!

BTW, hows that squat depth coming along??