Jay Max Log (Switching from BB to PL and a place to BS)

[turcao]

Im sure I need to get a lower. I actually think I did on my 5RMs once I was warmed up, but I cant wear the face cover because I cant breath with it on (so no vids). Ive never been an ass to grass guy, but hopefully Im pretty close to parallel.

I dont eat pizza much, but I worked out so late today and didnt want to wait to eat. Oddly enough I like pizza but hate pizza sauce, they look at you crazy at any place when you order a pizza with toppings and no sauce.

Practice going lower with just the bar for a warm up set or two, Google yoga squat pose and do that at home a few times each day

 

[theprodgicalson]

425x8 won't be more exhilarating that 600x1!!

No, no it won't. Haha. Want 600 so bad. So my coach pull 618 for a triple the other day. Which was a rep PR for him. Looked like a ton of fun. I really wanna squat 5 plates more. That would be awesome considering how weak my squat is. My goal is 500/400/600 overall

 

[jaymaximus]

No, no it won't. Haha. Want 600 so bad. So my coach pull 618 for a triple the other day. Which was a rep PR for him. Looked like a ton of fun. I really wanna squat 5 plates more. That would be awesome considering how weak my squat is. My goal is 500/400/600 overall

Yeah. I know strength increases will come from doing some reps at a good weight, but theres nothing like the rush you get when you lift a lot of weight one good time and set a PR. For that moment you feel like your on top of the world.

And damn, 600 is crazy. Looking at your log im sure youll get there though.

 

[theprodgicalson]

I am definetly the least flexible person I know. And its not close. Its the price I paid for putting on weight / muscle. At 180 I was good. At almost 230 I can barely hold a stretch. It doesnt help I dont really stretch before or after working out.

I like to stretch as soon as I wake up every morning. I drink a glass of water then strech. This is an area you need to work on if you feel it's a problem and is hinder your progress. Cause it will affect you further down the line. Have you gotten a sports/deep tissue massage before?

 

[theprodgicalson]

What was your previous 1RM on DL before you pulled 350?

 

[jaymaximus]

I like to stretch as soon as I wake up every morning. I drink a glass of water then strech. This is an area you need to work on if you feel it's a problem and is hinder your progress. Cause it will affect you further down the line. Have you gotten a sports/deep tissue massage before?

Im definetely going to start working on my flexibility. I didnt bother me much doing a BB program, but the more weight I add PLing, the more it becomes a problem. I just got lazy. I used to stretch in the gym before and after each workout. I just have to get back in the habit.

What was your previous 1RM on DL before you pulled 350?

It wasnt much less. 335. I think i got the 350 easier than I did the 335 though. Im gonna get back to sticking strictly to the TM program and see where Im at down the line. But it did feel real good today. I video most of my sets so I can watch them after and I was jumping around like a kid.

 

[insertnamehere]

Today's Workout:
5RM aka Encore/Numb

Squats:
Warmup
175 x 5 why 175? Someone left it on the barbell

225 x 3

Started where I ended last week
270 x 5 (almost took myself out here. I had on my "mask" to make a video showing my form/depth and I couldnt breath right. Had to put the bar down and take it off)
275 x 5
280 x 5
I knew that was it. But its a 10lb increase.

Decided I would go for one try at 300...and I got it. Felt good about myself.

Paused Bench
Warmup
185 x 3
225 x 3

275 x 5
280 x 4.5
I was a little upset here. I seem to be getting better at squats and DL, but Im just not seeing much bench improvement. Any suggestions?

I decided to try at 315 x 1...and got it...easily. Actually my spotter almost pissed me off because I was at my pause at the bottom and he tried to help me up. Like someone else said, I wish I'd put a few more lbs on, but 315 is my best since I was sick. At this point I was feeling really good!

DL
Warmup
225 x 3

275 x 5
285 x 5
295 x 5
That was it...
But it wasnt, because I decided to try for a new PR.
Just one attempt at 350 x 1...and I got it! Part of me wanted to try for more, but I figured enough was enough.

Incline Weighted Situps
30 lbs x 50

I know I deviated from the program trying the 1RMs, but I was feeling good today and I kind of needed it for my ego. I see the program is working, and from now on Im all over it...like Cosby on a sleeping woman! Or white on rice, whichever is least offensive.

Heres a vid of my warmup @insertnamehere



And a pic of my DL PR
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And a pic of my completely unhealthy after workout meal. Personal Pizza, triple chicken, triple beef, no sauce...
View attachment 29122

Thanks for posting the vid! And congrats on the PR! Now that I go that out of the way...

Jay, you really need to put more time in on your squat depth. Can you or can you not break parallel with just the bar?

I need to know what your safely capable of doing. If you're not able to safely break parallel, so be it and I won't keep bothering you about it. However, if you can safely get to an appropriate depth, I'm going to be your Cosby and you're going to be my sleeping girl. Got it?

As far as bench, lets take a look why you got only 4.5 on your last set:

185 x 3
225 x 3

275 x 5 <----This is why.
280 x 4.5

If your working set was 280x5 that day, why do 275x5? In that scenario, my suggestion would be to either go directly to 280 form 225 or have an intermediate stop before 280 for a single or maybe a double depending on how warmed up you feel.

On that note, lets take a look at your DL:

225 x 3

275 x 5
285 x 5
295 x 5

Why? You're wasting energy, Jay. Energy that could be used to towards your working sets and on this day, it could have helped you hit an even bigger PR!

I don't exactly what your program calls for but I'm sure @Docd187123 will be along anytime now to scold you. lol

 

[Docd187123]

Thanks for posting the vid! And congrats on the PR! Now that I go that out of the way...

Jay, you really need to put more time in on your squat depth. Can you or can you not break parallel with just the bar?

I need to know what your safely capable of doing. If you're not able to safely break parallel, so be it and I won't keep bothering you about it. However, if you can safely get to an appropriate depth, I'm going to be your Cosby and you're going to be my sleeping girl. Got it?

As far as bench, lets take a look why you got only 4.5 on your last set:

185 x 3
225 x 3

275 x 5 <----This is why.
280 x 4.5

If your working set was 280x5 that day, why do 275x5? In that scenario, my suggestion would be to either go directly to 280 form 225 or have an intermediate stop before 280 for a single or maybe a double depending on how warmed up you feel.

On that note, lets take a look at your DL:

225 x 3

275 x 5
285 x 5
295 x 5

Why? You're wasting energy, Jay. Energy that could be used to towards your working sets and on this day, it could have helped you hit an even bigger PR!

I don't exactly what your program calls for but I'm sure @Docd187123 will be along anytime now to scold you. lol

My thoughts are in one with this ^^^^

 

[jaymaximus]

Thanks for posting the vid! And congrats on the PR! Now that I go that out of the way...

Jay, you really need to put more time in on your squat depth. Can you or can you not break parallel with just the bar?

I need to know what your safely capable of doing. If you're not able to safely break parallel, so be it and I won't keep bothering you about it. However, if you can safely get to an appropriate depth, I'm going to be your Cosby and you're going to be my sleeping girl. Got it?

As far as bench, lets take a look why you got only 4.5 on your last set:

185 x 3
225 x 3

275 x 5 <----This is why.
280 x 4.5

If your working set was 280x5 that day, why do 275x5? In that scenario, my suggestion would be to either go directly to 280 form 225 or have an intermediate stop before 280 for a single or maybe a double depending on how warmed up you feel.

On that note, lets take a look at your DL:

225 x 3

275 x 5
285 x 5
295 x 5

Why? You're wasting energy, Jay. Energy that could be used to towards your working sets and on this day, it could have helped you hit an even bigger PR!

I don't exactly what your program calls for but I'm sure @Docd187123 will be along anytime now to scold you. lol

As far as depth I am still working on it. Im going lower now than before, but I cant go as far as I would like. With no weight I can only get parallel (cant even get A2G that way). Ive started working more on flexibility than form and just getting low. Hoping that will help.

IRT the sets that is something I could use advice on from you and Doc. Im new to this 5RM so I just started this week where I ended last week. I didnt want to go too high and not be able to complete. Would it be better to go higher and try / fail (assuming I cant get a certain weight) then drop weight? Im guessing maybe this would preserve energy? I have tweaked my warmups and I think that has helped.

My thoughts are in one with this ^^^^

When I read this I pictured a monk saying it. It sounded very "zen".
Thanks for all the help Doc. Im slowly getting there...

 

[Masters Power]

Your inner bodybuilder wants to do a lot of warm up reps at close to your max but it isn't contusive to increasing your maxes as quickly as possible. As you get more advanced you will really have to tone down your warm ups.

My deadlift warm up for my last meet was 2x225, 1x335, 1x425 and my pulls were 500, 540, 560. I would have preferred 2x225, 1x315 and 1x405 but they put on the 100 pound plates after 225 so 335 was the next stop.

 

[jaymaximus]

Your inner bodybuilder wants to do a lot of warm up reps at close to your max but it isn't contusive to increasing your maxes as quickly as possible. As you get more advanced you will really have to tone down your warm ups.

My deadlift warm up for my last meet was 2x225, 1x335, 1x425 and my pulls were 500, 540, 560. I would have preferred 2x225, 1x315 and 1x405 but they put on the 100 pound plates after 225 so 335 was the next stop.

Ive noticed in your logs how you warm up. Im trying to move in that direction. But youre right. Ive been conditioned over the years to start at high reps, low weight and continue that way. PLing it just wears you out.
Im kind of using trial and error now to see what works for me.

 

[MisterBiggins]

Hello Meso,

This will be my first log of any kind ever. So it might take some time to get where it needs to be. As stated in the title I am transitioning from a bodybuilder style work out into power lifter training. Why? I've been at this for awhile (since 2006) and I'm bored. I used to love working out. Now it's become a task to me. I hope to eventually find a place to compete. It might be a little harder because of where I'm living right now.

I won't be actually going full into the strength / powerlifting routine until 1 September. Until then I'll be working more on getting my form right and figuring out exactly what training model to follow (I'm torn between 5x5, Westside barbell, and Sheikh. But leaning towards Westside barbell. Any opinions would be great). On September 1st I also plan to start my next cycle. It will be simple. Just 600mg Test C a week for 15 weeks.

A little about myself (I never did an intro in the new member section, sorry)

I'm 34 years old
6'0
215lbs
Ran some PHs in the past
2 real cycles so far (1st was 500mg Test C for 12 weeks, 2nd was Test P and DMZ for 8 weeks)

Also I have a condition called ulcerative colitis (UC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulcerative_colitis. So I get sick every once in awhile. When I do I tend to lose a lot of muscle. Between 10 and 20lbs easy. I just got out of the hospital a few weeks ago. Lost 15 lbs. Still working on getting it back and my strength back.

My goals are to get my big 3 lifts better. Raise my 1RM on each. And gain some mass (Until now I've had to keep my weight at a certain level because I have to run for work. But I no longer have to run, so as long as my bf is good I can get as big as I want!)

Thanks all for reading. Any help, suggestions, criticism, etc. are not only welcome, but needed. I expect everyone here to help me push myself past whatever limits I think I have.

P.S. My log is like my house, there are no rules to my log. Kick off your shoes, make yourself at home. Go on the fridge. Just try not to clog the toilet.

You could have done all that natty fool.

 

[MisterBiggins]

That makes sense. I spent the last hour looking at youtube videos on how to power clean. Looked rough.

Why don't you just go to a real training center where men are doing powerclean instead of planet fuck tard

 

[MisterBiggins]

For anyone who wants to look at it here are a few articles about the Texas Method. It was created by Mark Rippetoe and looks to be the intermeddiate step after Starting Strength. Based on the advice of my unofficial official unpaid coaches I will be using this.

http://www.powerliftingtowin.com/texas-method/

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/The_Texas_Method

Go westside... texas meth is old... old like MILO.

 

[MisterBiggins]

If we're talking big 3, squats need the most work. Then DL.
I also need to work on my breathing on DLs. My form is getting better but after any volume or heavy weights I lose all oxygen and feel like im going to pass out.

Those are not heavy weights your lifting.

 

[MisterBiggins]

Video on TM. For anyone who is interested.

Mark is good for crossfit broads

 

[HuckingFuge]

Today's Workout:
5RM aka Encore/Numb

Squats:
Warmup
175 x 5 why 175? Someone left it on the barbell

225 x 3

Started where I ended last week
270 x 5 (almost took myself out here. I had on my "mask" to make a video showing my form/depth and I couldnt breath right. Had to put the bar down and take it off)
275 x 5
280 x 5
I knew that was it. But its a 10lb increase.

Decided I would go for one try at 300...and I got it. Felt good about myself.

Paused Bench
Warmup
185 x 3
225 x 3

275 x 5
280 x 4.5
I was a little upset here. I seem to be getting better at squats and DL, but Im just not seeing much bench improvement. Any suggestions?

I decided to try at 315 x 1...and got it...easily. Actually my spotter almost pissed me off because I was at my pause at the bottom and he tried to help me up. Like someone else said, I wish I'd put a few more lbs on, but 315 is my best since I was sick. At this point I was feeling really good!

DL
Warmup
225 x 3

275 x 5
285 x 5
295 x 5
That was it...
But it wasnt, because I decided to try for a new PR.
Just one attempt at 350 x 1...and I got it! Part of me wanted to try for more, but I figured enough was enough.

Incline Weighted Situps
30 lbs x 50

I know I deviated from the program trying the 1RMs, but I was feeling good today and I kind of needed it for my ego. I see the program is working, and from now on Im all over it...like Cosby on a sleeping woman! Or white on rice, whichever is least offensive.

Heres a vid of my warmup @insertnamehere



And a pic of my DL PR
View attachment 29121


And a pic of my completely unhealthy after workout meal. Personal Pizza, triple chicken, triple beef, no sauce...
View attachment 29122

you need to lower the weight and practice until perfect form with lighter weight, before you go up any higher in weight. practice going all the way down to the rack, with lighter weight. I think it is more of a mental game for you than your flexibility.

 

[MisterBiggins]

Today's Workout:

OHP and DL (mostly)

OHP
Warm Up 95 x 10
115 x 10
135 x 8
155 x 5
165 x 1

DL
Warm up 135
185 x 8
225 x 6
245 x 5 x 3 (3 sets of 5)
275 x 1
After this I was walking around the gym like newborn Bambi for 10 minutes.

Trap Bar Shrugs
2 45's each side
5 x 10

DB Alternating Front / Side Delt Raises
15 x 10
20 x 8
25 x 6
30 x 4

Inclined Sit Ups
10lb weight
5 x 10
(Good lord these are getting me)

Box Jumps
20" box
Just did 2 minutes

I did a lot more than I planned today. For work we do organized physical training. Just so happened we ended up at gym right after I left. So I had an extra hour...

Edit: When doing OHPs where are everyones feet positioned? Ive always kept mine together on all standing exercises besides DLs and squats because I was told years ago that would help focus on the muscles being trained.

275 on the DL and you have a mouth like that!!! Holy shit your weak kid I hit 735 for a single when I was 41!!!

 

[MisterBiggins]

Thanks Mel. I got lucky theres a lot of people on here who know what theyre doing and are willing to take time out of their lives to help me.
That and all the support you get here are what makes Meso great.
And thanks for coming over. I slacked hard on squats and dl for years. So Im way behind. But Im going to work my ass off to get where I need to be. Hopefully that means competing at some point. Maybe not to win, but definetly for fun and pride.

I think we both know what kind of pride you don't have.

 

[MisterBiggins]

Today's Workout:

Squats:
135 warm up
205 5 x 5

DL:
305 1 x 1 (jumped right in since I was warm from Squats. Probably couldve added a little weight, but today wasnt the day for that)
205 3 x 5

Weighted Incline SitUps
10lbs 5 x 10

After this I went on a 6 mile "hike". Hadnt planned on that

Im pretty worn out. Taking a couple days off. I think im going to start up the TM next week.

I cant even keep reading this its like beating up an I don't know what.. My stomack is upset Jay. If your really on it you need lots of help.