Thanks for the feed back guys. I'm going to research winstrol my only concern would be that it wont be as forgiving as primo on my overall health. Im starting to realize that maybe I was meant for primobolan hahah. Just so darn expensive even with a really generous hookup like Jetty oh well could be worse. I dont think im going to find my magical cheap primo like compound, probably doesnt exist like unicorns lol
Not an expert so take whatever I'm saying with a pinch of salt. As I've understood based on my research and listening to people light years more advanced than myself, the compound that has a downward pressure on estrogen is masteron. Primobolan is for the most part estrogen-neutral. There is a subsection of the population wherein in does seem to have an estrogen suppressing effect but that's not the norm.
As to the general idea that one needs to run primo at high doses long term, that's not entirely accurate IMHO. I mean, drugs work, and consequently, more drugs work better. But based on personal experience, even a dosage as low as 200 mg/week would work for general recoverability purposes. I was running an "enhanced TRT" course of 100 test e and 200 primo e and my recovery between workouts and nutrition partitioning was noticeably different than when I was running 100 mgs of test e alone.
The closest thing to primo is I believe masteron, from a health and side effects perspective that is. It's a DHT compound just like primo. However, if you're genetically predisposed to hair loss, the compound has been known to accelerate it. Not to mention it also messes with your lipids.
For your fat loss course , I'd personally suggest either primo or masteron. I believe I recall seeing a study where anavar apparently preferentially targets belly fat but I think it was just that one study and it was poorly done. Clen and GH are your best bet vis a vis fat loss compounds. DNP too but I'd personally NEVER recommend anyone try that. Mayyyybe if your literal livelihood was based on how you look and even then, I'm not sure it's worth it.
Hope I haven't rambled on too much and some of this info helps! Good luck!