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Right, but considering that is unlikely for most of us here, perhaps something more pragmatic?Don't do it.
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Right, but considering that is unlikely for most of us here, perhaps something more pragmatic?Don't do it.
I'm all ears too LOL!Right, but considering that is unlikely for most of us here, perhaps something more pragmatic?
Please point me to an arrest that involved 2 vials or 50 pills ALONE with nothing else like drugs/guns/alcohol/domestic violence etc.False.
That does happen, with the other drugs and such, and it is a good way to get on the "radar," but the last sentence you wrote is completely and utterly false.
Please point me to an arrest that involved 2 vials or 50 pills ALONE with nothing else like drugs/guns/alcohol/domestic violence etc.
I 'll wait.
I've documented numerous other arrests for personal AAS possession over the years. Most were related to defendants bringing attention to themselves via traffic stops, domestic disturbances, involvement in law enforcement, and/or others bringing attention to them via snitching by dealers, girlfriends, colleagues, neighbors, etc:Brent McCormick was charged with two counts of possession of a controlled substance (anabolic steroids) and two counts of possession of drug parphernalia. Steroid possession is a Class IV felony under state law in Nebraska. Apparently, one of McCormick’s community neighbors tipped off the Washington County Sheriff’s Office (WCSO) regarding his use of muscle-building drugs.
Acting on the tip, WCSO deputies conducted a trash pull on McCormick’s residence according to WCSO Captain Rob Bellamy. The investigators discarded several discarded used syringes and needles and an empty vial of injectable Dragon Pharma Cypionat 250 (testosterone cypionate) in the trash bag. The discarded steroid vials were collected as evidence in support of a search warrant.
Washington County deputies executed the search warrant on the morning of March 8, 2017. They found McCormack at home and they also found a vial of Dragon Pharma Deca 300 (nandrolone decanoate) and a box containing several unused syringes.
Source:
Ellis, L. (March 13, 2017). Deputies: Arlington man charged with possessing steroids. Retrieved from Deputies: Arlington man charged with possessing steroids - Washington County Enterprise
#3James O'Neal, the co-owner of Ameriflex Training & Nutrition Systems and Ameriflex Lifestyle System, was arrested for possession of anabolic steroids at the Burleson Recreation Center (BRiCk) on May 27, 2015. O'Neal faces second-degree felony charges of possession of a Penalty Group 3 controlled substance (anabolic steroids) of 28-200 grams.
Adam King, a spokesperson with the Johnson County Stop The Offender Program (STOP) Task Force, said that police discovered at least 153 grams of finished steroid product after O'Neal gave officers permission to search his home.
O'Neal's arrest is the result of a two-year investigation that began with the January 2010 arrest of a local man who operated an underground steroid manufacturing laboratory (UGL). The UGL operator snitched on several of his customers in search of leniency. Some of those customers allegedly included North Texas law enforcement officers and prison employees.
Source:
Washington, A. (June 5, 2015). Trainer arrested for steroids at BriCk. Retrieved from http://www.burlesonstar.net/news/ci_28256527
#4Kevin Schindler, a 25-year old officer with the Bakersfield Police Department (BPD) in California since March 2015, was caught in possession of anabolic steroids during a surprise visit to his residence by his fellow BPD officers. His colleagues were checking up on him in response to a neighbor who called in a disturbance of the peace report.
BPD officers showed up at Schindler’s house to investigate the peace disturbance at 5:24 pm on October 6, 2017. The officers determined that there was no basis for a disturbing the peace violation. However, the police observed evidence of other crimes in plain sight while they were at Schindler’s residence.
During the visit, Schindler was seen with a BPD “shotgun locking rack” and a department-owned shotgun in his possession. The shotgun locking rack is used by BPD to securely store firearms inside patrol vehicles. Schindler was not authorized to have either the rack or the shotgun in his possession. In other words, Schindler was in possession of stolen property that belonged to the City of Bakersfield.
BPD investigators didn’t stop with the stolen property. They also observed a vial of injectable testosterone at Schindler’s house. The investigators determined that Officer Schindler did not have a prescription and unlawfully possession the steroid vial.
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Tarangioli, N. (November 3, 2017). District Attorney files misdemeanor charges against Bakersfield Police officer. Retrieved from DA files misdemeanor charges against BPD officer
#5New York State Police pulled Michael Vazquez over after he was clocked exceeding the speed limit by 26 miles per hour. Vazquez was driving 81 miles per hour in a 55-mph zone. When the police officer checked Vazquez's driver's license, he discovered that Vazquez failed to respond to a court summons related to another traffic violation. This had resulted in a suspended license.
Things were looking pretty bad. But they got worse once officers conducted a search of his vehicle. It was then that they discovered three vials of injectable testosterone and multipe syringes and needles.
Vazquez faces charges of criminal possession of a controlled substance (anabolic steroids), criminal possession of steroid paraphernalia, driving with a suspended license and speeding.
Source:
Tonawanda News. (September 27, 2012). Man found with steroids. Retrieved from http://tonawanda-news.com/local/x708369886/Man-found-with-steroids
#6Deputies with the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office (MCSO) located and stopped Ilon Fernandez around 7:40 pm. The deputies smelled a “strong odor of alcohol” in the car and notices that the driver’s eyes were “watery, glassy [and] red”. In addition, an open alcoholic beverage was in plain sight.
When deputies searched the vehicle they found a Smith and Wesson 9mm handgun in the glove compartment, a bottle of Ketel One brand vodka in the trunk, and “3,000 milligrams of steroids” in the center console according to MCSO Deputy Ana Coello.
MCSO deputy Coello’s arrest report did not specify what type of steroids were in the car but it seems likely that is could have been an injectable solution. For example, a 10-milliliter vial of a steroid like testosterone dosed at 300 mg/ml would contain 3,000 mg of steroids.
Fernandez faces misdemeanor charges of reckless driving and driving under the influence. But the most serious charge involves the steroids found in the car. Fernandez faces a felony charge possession of a controlled substance without a prescription (anabolic steroids).
Source:
Goodhue, D. (January 7, 2019). Cops pulled him over for speeding. They found a gun, a bottle of vodka and steroids. Retrieved from miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article224027000.html
#726-year old Florida bodybuilder James Lanzaro was just released from jail and on his way home when police arrested him once again on anabolic steroid possession charges.
Lanzaro was first arrested for failing to appear in court regarding a traffic ticket or other moving violation on July 1, 2018. He spent the night in the Marin County Jail. He was released the very next day.
Lanzaro called and asked his friend to come pick him up. He even told the friend that he could borrow his car. Unfortunately, Lanzaro seemed to have forgotten that his car was full of steroids. Lanzaro left some Dianabol (methandienone), Anadrol (oxymetholone), Anavar (oxandrolone) and six other ancillary bodybuilding drugs in his vehicle for some unknown reason.
The friend showed up at the jail as promised in Lanzaro’s car. The friend picked up Lanzaro and started to drive away from the jail. But before he could exit the Martin County Jail Complex, a Martin County Sheriff’s Office (MCSO) deputy stopped him for not wearing a seatbelt. The deputy soon discovered the stash of steroids and related drugs.
The friend told the police that the car did not belong to him. The friend insisted that he had no idea that the car was full of illegal muscle-building drugs. Lanzaro corroborated his friend’s story and admitted that the steroids and syringes belonged to him.
Lanzaro was taken into custody once again and charged with ten counts of possessing controlled substances. MCSO identified at least three different steroids – Dianabol, Anadrol and Anavar – along with seven other drugs. Lanzaro did not have a prescription for any of them.
Lanzaro spent at least one more night in jail. His bail was set at $101,000.
Source:
Marino, S. (July 3, 2018). Port St. Lucie man charged with having steroids without prescriptions just after leaving jail. Retrieved from tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/martin-county/2018/07/03/port-st-lucie-man-accused-having-steroids-without-prescription/755497002/
#8Former Centerton Police Detective Colby Miser pleaded guilty to Class A misdemeanor possession of a schedule III controlled substance (anabolic steroids) on February 11, 2016.
Miser was already fired from his job as a police detective for the Centerton Police Department. Back on September 18, 2015, Miser suffered a seizure while working out at the CrossFit Reverence Gym in Rogers. Centerton Police Chief Cody Harper decided to pick up Miser's patrol vehicle while Miser was hospitalized. Chief Harper found a bottle containing 18 tablets of a suspected oral anabolic steroid stashed inside the CPD patrol car assigned to him. On Octboer 20, 2015, Chief Harper immediately Miser upon receiving confirmation from the Arkansas State Crime Lab that the pills contained stanozolol.
Source:
Sitek, Z. (February 12, 2016). Former Centerton Officer Pleads Guilty To Steroid Possession, Now Faces DWI Charge. Retrieved from Former Centerton Officer Pleads Guilty To Steroid Possession, Now Faces DWI Charge
#9Shane Benningfield, a former deputy with the Benton County Sheriff's Office in Washington, has pleaded not guilty to one charge of possession of a controlled substance (anabolic steroids). The former deputy's trial is scheduled to begin in Benton County Superior Court of February 9, 2015.
Benningfield's fall from grace as a sheriff's deputy began when his ex-girlfriend file a citiizen's complaint and restraining order against him on April 24, 2014. She claimed that he threatened to have her killed if she reported his steroid use.
Benton County Deputy Prosecutor Terry Bloor has filed the court case on the single charge of possession of a controlled substance. However, the judge and/or jurors have been given the option to determine which illegal drug Benningfield must defend himself against. They will have the option to choose from the various controlled substances allegedly seized at the former deputy's residence. These include five different testosterone compounds, various unspecified steroids and the pain medication oxycodone (brand name Oxycontin).
The trial begins on February 9, 2014 unless Benningfield and prosecutors arrive at a plea agreement prior to date.
Source:
Kraemer, K. (December 5, 2014). Trial set for former Benton County sheriff’s deputy accused of using steroids. Retrieved from http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2014/12/05/3297759/trial-set-for-former-benton-county.html
#10In April 2013, John Eaton, a deputy officer with the Lee County Sheriff's Office, was arrested for steroid possession after his live-in girlfriend notified his bosses of his steroid use. The girlfriend provided a sworn statement detailing a physical altercation in which Eaton kicked her. She took pictures of the injuries along with a picture of a vial of testosterone enanthate next to his official sheriff's badge. Eaton was arrested after police searched his home and found three vials containing testosterone enanthate, one vial containing Deca Durabolin.
Source: Lee sheriff's deputy accused of steroids, marijuana possession
There are several more cases. I will post them when I have time.In February 2014, Paul Berge, a veteran officer with the Kankakee Police Department (KPD), was suspended after his girlfriend allegedly tipped off police to his steroid use. Ironically, Berge was employed on the frontline in the country's war on drugs; he was a K-9 officers assigned to the Kankakee Area Metropolitan Enforcement Group (KAMEG). KAMEG works in coordination with federal agencies such as the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement - Division of Homeland Security Investigations (ICE-DHS). It's hard to know what upset Berge the most – the fact that his girlfriend turned him in or that the country's war on drugs ended up biting him in the ass.
Source: Drug enforcement cop suspended for illegal steroids
most of the people who are caught with gear are caught because their behavior draws the attention of law enforcement on unrelated matters
As you stated with the exemption of #1, all other cases have guns/hard drugs/domestic violence etc attached to them.Ok. Two vials. Here ya go:
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I've documented numerous other arrests for personal AAS possession over the years. Most were related to defendants bringing attention to themselves via traffic stops, domestic disturbances, involvement in law enforcement, and/or others bringing attention to them via snitching by dealers, girlfriends, colleagues, neighbors, etc:
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There are several more cases. I will post them when I have time.
Please point me to an arrest that involved 2 vials or 50 pills ALONE with nothing else like drugs/guns/alcohol/domestic violence etc.
I 'll wait.
You are 100% correct that you are more likely to get charged for hard drugs/weed than steroids.As you stated with the exemption of #1, all other cases have guns/hard drugs/domestic violence etc attached to them.
Millions use steroids in the USA, hundreds get caught because they attract unwanted attention to them and there is the rare occasions of 5 dozens that are the exceptions that prove the rule.
Realistically, you are more likely to be charged for hard drugs/weed than steroids.
Mostly common sense. You already observed, don't drive around with it in your car. There is less protection against searches in your car than in your home.So what would be your suggestion for someone looking to add additional layers of personal protection for ordering gear online?
You are talking in absolutes. Sure 1 is more than 0, but in the grand scheme of things 1 is dick squat in the 3.000 of cases (arbitrary numbers). Do people get poped for 2 blunts? Yes. How many of them get arrested vs how many just get a smack in the head and walk away? Pretty much everyone. Sure you get the local cop with the Judge Dread syndrome that will get an instant hard on when you jaywalk and he can play god. But as stated above the exception that proves the rule.You are 100% correct that you are more likely to get charged for hard drugs/weed than steroids.
But your initial claim was that steroids by themselves "do not mean dick squat to the cops," and that is just not true. I can only guess that you do not know many cops.
And I could point you to such cases, but I have to rely upon news stories and such to "point you" to them. I have posted many here over the years, but most of these types of cases simply do not make the news. Why would they? Arrests have to be newsworthy. Very few arrests of any kind make the news.
It is also not true that one must be in "guns/hard drugs/domestic violence" to be arrested for steroids.
OBVIOUSLY, engaging in other criminal conduct dramatically increases your odds of being charged with unrelated criminal conduct. That is one of those "duh" sorts of observations. But the cases are not limited to those.
If you review Millard's first example, these cops, for whom you claim steroids do not mean dick squat, devoted resources to search through this guy's trash on nothing but a neighbor's tip that he used steroids. They used the trash search to get a warrant, the execution of which turned up one vial of Deca.
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And they arrested him and charged him with a felony.
Frankly, when folks claim cops do not care about these felonies, I realize that the folks making the claim are just ignorant.
You spend time on here discussing this shit openly and, Touchdown! and photos and delivery times and pretty soon you forget that you are discussing felonies.
There are others who have been arrested because customs or postal inspectors catch deliveries in the mail. It is simply a numbers game. They catch this stuff. Mostly, they don't. Some small percentage get caught. If you keep buying lottery tickets, though, sooner or later you may win 350 bucks or something. Same deal here. Some percentage get caught. It happens.
Millard pointed out traffic stops, and I am aware of one guy in my little town who was charged with a felony for one vial of testosterone
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after it was found during a search at a traffic stop. It made the local news, too, but it's a small town without a lot of crime on which to report. Tell me more about how steroids, to those cops, do not mean dick squat.
As I posted above, I personally know of many, many more. No news stories or other BS to provide for hyperlinks for you to go read on the internet. Just another small time drug case with no news reporting. It happens all the time and has been for decades, every since steroids were scheduled.
I know police officers who have used steroids.
I know about steroid possession arrests.
Both things can be true at the same time.
Do people get poped for 2 blunts? Yes. How many of them get arrested vs how many just get a smack in the head and walk away? Pretty much everyone.
You did whether you like my perceived fawning or not. Doesn't matter.win the internet
Very smart of them to reveal that. Now someone needs to visit the guy in prison and ask whose wife was he banging in the community to know who tipped off.Apparently, one of McCormick’s community neighbors tipped off the Washington County Sheriff’s Office (WCSO) regarding his use of muscle-building drugs.
Just a quick correction/addition to #1. Quick search on this case reveals that McCormick was actually suspected as a dealer as well during the little tip off there. Cops aren’t wasting resources and time to dig through trash for personal use tips. The dealer part got them salivating, and willing to spend resources. Just FYI.Ok. Two vials. Here ya go:
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I've documented numerous other arrests for personal AAS possession over the years. Most were related to defendants bringing attention to themselves via traffic stops, domestic disturbances, involvement in law enforcement, and/or others bringing attention to them via snitching by dealers, girlfriends, colleagues, neighbors, etc:
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There are several more cases. I will post them when I have time.
Yes and this is supported further by more details on the McCormick case. Stop the fear mongering. Read the facts for yourself. Took me 2 mins to find them. This guy was already on the fucking radar:I think most of us here accept the fact that what we are doing is illegal, and have made peace with this and accepted the associated risks. Since I dare say most of us ane unwilling to call it quits, it seems the best thing we can do is limit risk.
As @Millard ’s examples largely show, most of the people who are caught with gear are caught because their behavior draws the attention of law enforcement on unrelated matters. This is not unlike how conventional narcotics users find themselves in custody. Heroin addicts steal everything they is not nailed down to feed their habit. Meth junkies often act like raving lunatics in public. Cops tend to take notice of this type of thing.
So it seems to me the best way to mitigate risk is to simply not break the law by engaging in behavior that will land the sheriff at your door for matters entirely unrelated to steroid use. Provided you live your life as an otherwise law abiding citizen, I would place the overall risk of arrest to be extraordinarily low.
Not fear-mongering, as I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment, which I thought I made clear in my post? Sure you were not meaning to reply to @malfeasance ? As it seems we are on the same page.Yes and this is supported further by more details on the McCormick case. Stop the fear mongering. Read the facts for yourself. Took me 2 mins to find them. This guy was already on the fucking radar:
“Convictions of Class IV felony steroid possession can carry a penalty that goes to upwards of 24 months in jail and a fine of upwards of $10,000. In this specific situation, however, the chief deputy of the sheriff’s department has instead requested probation for Mr. McCormick – helping him to get off lightly.
This isn’t the only legal trouble that McCormick is dealing with, however.
While still awaiting trial for his steroid possession situation McCormick was arrested for suspicion of domestic violence that involved a firearm in the state of Ohio.
In October of 2018, in the lead up to that trial, McCormick was further charged with jury tampering during the selection process. Noticing that a pal of his had been called for jury duty in this situation, he fired off a message to that individual via Facebook and alerted him that he needed to be on the jury – something that the judge took very seriously, and something that will no doubt negatively impact his odds of receiving a lenient sentence should he be found guilty in this specific trial.”