Josh Bridgman arrested

[malfeasance]

They just discontinued test prop at compounding pharmacies across the nation, so if that's your ester of choice, legitimate TRT is now off the table.

Is this true?

Why?

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Is this true?

Why?

No one knows for sure. Empower, Hallandale, Revive-Rx all discontinued it recently, and Defy no longer offers it via any pharmacy. Conspiratorial thinking types are speculating that there's some kind of pressure campaign by the FDA happening behind the scenes.

 

[malfeasance]

Surely somebody would say so if that was the case.

 

[Middus]

I

No one knows for sure. Empower, Hallandale, Revive-Rx all discontinued it recently, and Defy no longer offers it via any pharmacy. Conspiratorial thinking types are speculating that there's some kind of pressure campaign by the FDA happening behind the scenes.

thought there was a general shortage of test c because some main pharma companies discontinued production while other producers ran out as a result of high demand due to the discontinued production

 

[FunkOdyssey]

I

thought there was a general shortage of test c because some main pharma companies discontinued production while other producers ran out as a result of high demand due to the discontinued production

The discontinued ester here is test propionate, not cypionate.

 

[carbon adams]

. Conspiratorial thinking types are speculating that there's some kind of pressure campaign by the FDA happening behind the scenes.

To me it screams the government find out
Test P is too much like “steroid”. So they say, we must take it away from market because big pharma USA doesn’t offer its We can’t have clinics being the only supplier of a test P
They want now restrict the gentleman to only using one test ester.

Any other agree with the above notation ?

Kind of baloney in my pants, make me want to buy so much test P now.

 

[MrTexas2]

You are 100% correct that you are more likely to get charged for hard drugs/weed than steroids.

But your initial claim was that steroids by themselves "do not mean dick squat to the cops," and that is just not true. I can only guess that you do not know many cops.

And I could point you to such cases, but I have to rely upon news stories and such to "point you" to them. I have posted many here over the years, but most of these types of cases simply do not make the news. Why would they? Arrests have to be newsworthy. Very few arrests of any kind make the news.

It is also not true that one must be in "guns/hard drugs/domestic violence" to be arrested for steroids.

OBVIOUSLY, engaging in other criminal conduct dramatically increases your odds of being charged with unrelated criminal conduct. That is one of those "duh" sorts of observations. But the cases are not limited to those.

If you review Millard's first example, these cops, for whom you claim steroids do not mean dick squat, devoted resources to search through this guy's trash on nothing but a neighbor's tip that he used steroids. They used the trash search to get a warrant, the execution of which turned up one vial of Deca.

One

vial

of

Deca

And they arrested him and charged him with a felony.

Frankly, when folks claim cops do not care about these felonies, I realize that the folks making the claim are just ignorant.

You spend time on here discussing this shit openly and, Touchdown! and photos and delivery times and pretty soon you forget that you are discussing felonies.

There are others who have been arrested because customs or postal inspectors catch deliveries in the mail. It is simply a numbers game. They catch this stuff. Mostly, they don't. Some small percentage get caught. If you keep buying lottery tickets, though, sooner or later you may win 350 bucks or something. Same deal here. Some percentage get caught. It happens.

Millard pointed out traffic stops, and I am aware of one guy in my little town who was charged with a felony for one vial of testosterone

one

vial

of

testosterone

after it was found during a search at a traffic stop. It made the local news, too, but it's a small town without a lot of crime on which to report. Tell me more about how steroids, to those cops, do not mean dick squat.

As I posted above, I personally know of many, many more. No news stories or other BS to provide for hyperlinks for you to go read on the internet. Just another small time drug case with no news reporting. It happens all the time and has been for decades, every since steroids were scheduled.

I know police officers who have used steroids.

I know about steroid possession arrests.

Both things can be true at the same time.

Here is another major human behavior that would seriously drive an arrest if the officer fit the following mold.

There are TONS of guys who don't train very hard, don't eat right, don't discipline their lifestyles, don't have very good genetics who look bad and never get very strong. This is common in the bodybuilding world and also the martial arts world.

Yet these guys like to fantasize that if they just took a pill or a shot that they could become like the guys who do train hard, eat right, are disciplined, have better genetics, etc.

I have noted that these are the biggest "anti roids" types and because of their shortcomings blame/hate the idea of PEDs.

If/when this kind of person becomes a law enforcement officer (usually a very small one, lol) they will be sure to try and prosecute someone for even a very small amount of gear.

 

[Atlas1989]

Let’s break down yet another generic list of side effects that they posted:

• Gynaecomastia (man-boobs) - easily preventable in most cases by simply dosing ancillaries properly and not being a highly aromatising fatass
• Genitourinary (shrinking of testicles) - somewhat preventable with Hcg but yes a reality, albeit relatively trivial, nonetheless
• Erectile dysfunction - both preventable and fixable with proper sleep + e2 within range
• Infertility - fair concern but preventable with Hcg and with sperm freezing in advance
• Heart attacks - relatively preventable with bloodwork and supplementing statins as needed, also by not taking a ton of unnecessary anabolics and by cruising or cycling off for appropriate time
• Strokes - see above for heart attacks. RBC donation both highly accessible and another good preventative measure
• Blood-borne virus risk (e.g. HIV, hepatitis B, hepatitis C) as a result of injecting - lol
• Addiction - relative term
• Depression - yes just like many (perhaps most?) men natty will eventually experience and have a hard time overcoming
• Aggression and violence (commonly called 'roid rage') - generally for people who were preexisting assholes or pieces of shit

Wait, I can give myself hiv? Like my blood might contact the sterile syringe needle and matte into a deadly virus? Fuck! How do I prevent this?

 

[Ghoul]

So what's the latest? Have they transferred him to Guantanamo yet?

Seems every C-list celebrity getting a DUI or jaywalking ticket results in a press release from LE PR departments since that attention getting news helps justify their existence and budget, yet this influencer and a rare opportunity to highlight the illegality of steroids has been kept under wraps...

 

[lamehack]

I was wondering how they would get you if you order domestic. couple options obviously, a) controlled delivery, this is one easy to avoid b) sensor inside package - you open it and get a knock on your door or c) they let it deliver, but you are on a 'list' and one day they get a warrant on you and then search your house and find 'gear'.
honestly I think that only c) looks viable to me and this has been discussed so many times, while the risk isn't 0, it feels extremely low. if you are extremely paranoid about c) you could simply hide the gear except 1 box, and transfer whatever you use in the given moment into some 'legal' looking vials, lets say old test vials you might have gotten from a regular pharmacy with a legit prescription

 

[ivandragovich]

I was wondering how they would get you if you order domestic. couple options obviously, a) controlled delivery, this is one easy to avoid b) sensor inside package - you open it and get a knock on your door or c) they let it deliver, but you are on a 'list' and one day they get a warrant on you and then search your house and find 'gear'.
honestly I think that only c) looks viable to me and this has been discussed so many times, while the risk isn't 0, it feels extremely low. if you are extremely paranoid about c) you could simply hide the gear except 1 box, and transfer whatever you use in the given moment into some 'legal' looking vials, lets say old test vials you might have gotten from a regular pharmacy with a legit prescription

Or… leaky box containing gear discovered at the postal officer and referred to a postal inspector. See latest couple pages on Generic Asia thread lol. Hopefully no postal inspectors were involved in this case.

 

[lamehack]

Or… leaky box containing gear discovered at the postal officer and referred to a postal inspector. See latest couple pages on Generic Asia thread lol. Hopefully no postal inspectors were involved in this case.

i think that highly depends on your behavior. is there any trace of this package going to you. payments, clicking on tracking url's, you accepting a controlled delivery etc. if no trace whatsoever plus you not accepting a controller delivery (or not even opening the door) has a low chance of proving a case against you. if they go this route. good sources typically vacuum seal or similar, which is very difficult to leak

 

[readalot]

Or… leaky box containing gear discovered at the postal officer and referred to a postal inspector. See latest couple pages on Generic Asia thread lol. Hopefully no postal inspectors were involved in this case.

I may never order UGL ever now. Thanks @GenericAsia you harm reduction guru!

 

[ivandragovich]

i think that highly depends on your behavior. is there any trace of this package going to you. payments, clicking on tracking url's, you accepting a controlled delivery etc. if no trace whatsoever plus you not accepting a controller delivery (or not even opening the door) has a low chance of proving a case against you. if they go this route. good sources typically vacuum seal or similar, which is very difficult to leak

This is copium. Don’t be so complacent. Local departments and postal inspectors would be more than happy to talk to you over a couple of broken vials, don’t be so quick with this no trace and behavior bullshit. I’m sure @malfeasance can give you plenty of examples. It’s all about your risk tolerance compadre.

 

[readalot]

This is copium. Don’t be so complacent. Local departments and postal inspectors would be more than happy to talk to you over a couple of broken vials, don’t be so quick with this no trace and behavior bullshit. I’m sure @malfeasance can give you plenty of examples. It’s all about your risk tolerance compadre.

The rationalization blows me away.

 

[lamehack]

This is copium. Don’t be so complacent. Local departments and postal inspectors would be more than happy to talk to you over a couple of broken vials, don’t be so quick with this no trace and behavior bullshit. I’m sure @malfeasance can give you plenty of examples. It’s all about your risk tolerance compadre.

not saying there is 0 risk, obviously its not. but I have yet to see a case where any of that happened. outside of 'it happened we just don't know'.

 

[ivandragovich]

not saying there is 0 risk, obviously its not. but I have yet to see a case where any of that happened. outside of 'it happened we just don't know'.

Just know your risk tolerance and follow the ‘spidey’ senses so to speak. Be patient and don’t make rash decisions. Good luck fellow traveler, may your journey be safe.

 

[Ghoul]

I was wondering how they would get you if you order domestic. couple options obviously, a) controlled delivery, this is one easy to avoid b) sensor inside package - you open it and get a knock on your door or c) they let it deliver, but you are on a 'list' and one day they get a warrant on you and then search your house and find 'gear'.
honestly I think that only c) looks viable to me and this has been discussed so many times, while the risk isn't 0, it feels extremely low. if you are extremely paranoid about c) you could simply hide the gear except 1 box, and transfer whatever you use in the given moment into some 'legal' looking vials, lets say old test vials you might have gotten from a regular pharmacy with a legit prescription

End users are not targets of interest by the feds. Thousands of packs of steroids seized every year, the easiest of all possible busts, are sent a letter. That's it.

The handful of domestic busts are the result of inadvertent discovery, primarily leaks, and local law enforcement. agreeing to invest the time, which is rare,

You will. not "avoid" a controlled delivery. This is a fantasy based on a cartoonish perception of how law enforcement works.

No signature is required. No agent disguised in a uniform is required.

"Damn, he outsmarted us! Fooled again!"

 

[lamehack]

End users are not targets of interest by the feds. Thousands of packs of steroids seized every year, the easiest of all possible busts, are sent a letter. That's it.

The handful of domestic busts are the result of inadvertent discovery, primarily leaks, and local law enforcement. agreeing to invest the time, which is rare,

You will. not "avoid" a controlled delivery. This is a fantasy based on a cartoonish perception of how law enforcement works.

No signature is required. No agent disguised in a uniform is required.

"Damn, he outsmarted us! Fooled again!"

yeah makes sense. i would assume they simply hand you a package with no word, you instinctively accept. I would also suspect they risk is higher in rural areas, because those people have more time on hands. something like S-F vs some shithole-nobody-goes-yourfavshittystateHERE has probably a very significant risk factor

 

[Ghoul]

yeah makes sense. i would assume they simply hand you a package with no word, you instinctively accept. I would also suspect they risk is higher in rural areas, because those people have more time on hands. something like S-F vs some shithole-nobody-goes-yourfavshittystateHERE has probably a very significant risk factor

The purpose of the controlled delivery is to gain probable cause to search your house because they don't have sufficient evidence to do so otherwise.

So, this hypothetical, extremely unlikely "end user" bust situation, they merely have to establish the contraband got into the target building. They could manually surveil the property for someone to bring it in from the porch or mailbox. Or like you mentioned, have a tiny tracker placed in the box and wait around the corner. Then they can enter and search without a warrant.

They can also wait for you to pick it up at the post office, pull the video of you with pack in hand, and use that to get a warrant for your house to execute later that day.

The reason this is so unlikely is the payoff. Even high level dealers and labs, with thousands of vials, get some kind of non prison diversion (unless they are repeat offenders).

"Possessors" case dispositions almost always "disappear", rather than. ending in some sentence that can be found in the public record. That's what happens when cases are given some form of deferred adjudication....ie, go do some community service, get drug counseling, and provided you behave for 6 months we'll make this case disappear.

All of that said, fwiw, they know far more than they act on. Every package (every piece of mail generally), is carefully logged and masses of data are analyzed for all sorts of connections, especially with AI, When someone gets busted for distributing drugs, they'll look back and see damn near every parcel you received or sent, and can use that retroactively to tell who you've been dealing with. If a domestic seller gets busted, they'll likely figure out who they've been selling to. Unless it appears you're a large down stream reseller, they're not going to do anything with this info. But if you ever apply for a top secret clearance job, for instance, you're likely to fail if there's a long list of parcels received from known shady sources.