Josh Bridgman arrested

[malfeasance]

You will. not "avoid" a controlled delivery. This is a fantasy based on a cartoonish perception of how law enforcement works.

No signature is required. No agent disguised in a uniform is required.

"Damn, he outsmarted us! Fooled again!"

LOL

Where do people even get ideas like this? Now I can become a billionaire cocaine and heroin dealer just by refusing to open the door. Why did criminals not get this advice earlier?

 

[malfeasance]

All of that said, fwiw, they know far more than they act on. Every package (every piece of mail generally), is carefully logged and masses of data are analyzed for all sorts of connections

Yeah, this. You would be disturbed if you knew how much information they had about your mail, stored for years.

If a domestic seller gets busted, they'll likely figure out who they've been selling to.

Now this is something I have never heard of them following up on, i.e., going after customers after busting a seller. I cannot even think of one example.

 

[Ghoul]

Yeah, this. You would be disturbed if you knew how much information they had about your mail, stored for years.


Now this is something I have never heard of them following up on, i.e., going after customers after busting a seller. I cannot even think of one example.

You're aware every piece of mail is scanned, an image stored, optical character recognition reading mailing and return address.

Sender and recipient logged.

In your experience, do UGLs use a different return address each time? Even if it's fake, is it unique each time you get a package?

They certainly don't in mine.

They can't do that without drawing suspicion.

So one controlled buy, one package prepared for mailing discovered during the bust, reveals that address.

Then a cross reference to the records we know they have, and they've got a list, and pics, of every pack mailed using that return adress.

 

[songsofpyramids]

You're aware every piece of mail is scanned, an image stored, optical character recognition reading mailing and return address.

Sender and recipient logged.

In your experience, do UGLs use a different return address each time? Even if it's fake, is it unique each time you get a package?

They certainly don't in mine.

They can't do that without drawing suspicion.

So one controlled buy, one package prepared for mailing discovered during the bust, reveals that address.

Then a cross reference to the records we know they have, and they've got a list, and pics, of every pack mailed using that return adress.

This is very evident just by looking into any of the busts on the dark net. The state don’t care in the slightest about signatures, and they aren’t doing controlled deliveries, they are doing controlled buys. Then they sit on the perp until the case is lock tracking the mail, if they need they’ll do selective busts of buyers to further solidify the evidence, roll up the dealer, shutter the operation, and extract as much money out of it as they can. If they really want to get you they’ll break the law and hack your shit so they can understand the operation, use that information to build a case that looks like they stumbled onto the trail organically in the course of doing their job (but they know exactly where and what to look for), and build a legal case off the illegal case they were running in an act called “parallel construction”. If the state wants you they’ll find you regardless of the amount of security theatre you engage in. The saving grace here is all this shit they do is super expensive and time consuming, and they seem to relegate it to highest priority cares. Which, in a nation with 100,000 deaths from synthetic opioids a year is thankfully not peptides and gear,

That said, there are exceptions. Right now I’m pretty sure I’m watching Kits4less fall prey to feeling immune, start advertising on fucking Facebook seemingly attracting heat, and is now having packages held for inspection in domestic US to US sales. If I were a gambling man I’d say that is an operation very likely under federal investigation now with the amount of stock they move.

Now this is something I have never heard of them following up on, i.e., going after customers after busting a seller

Never seen it after a bust, but I’ve read a bunch of cases where they’ll get the buyer before the dealer bust to shore up evidence and get ppl on record admitting to buying drugs from them to seal up holes in the case.

 

[malfeasance]

That said, there are exceptions. Right now I’m pretty sure I’m watching Kits4less fall prey to feeling immune, start advertising on fucking Facebook seemingly attracting heat, and is now having packages held for inspection in domestic US to US sales. If I were a gambling man I’d say that is an operation very likely under federal investigation now with the amount of stock they move.

Wait, what is this?

Never heard of them, but folks are reporting tracked packages being held up in domestic mail?

 

[songsofpyramids]

but folks are reporting tracked packages being held up in domestic mail?

Multiple people complaining on sst and eroids that their domestic US to US order was held for inspections, with k4l offering reships to different addresses making everyone involved freak their addresses were burned. Advertising on Facebook is super brazen and I would not be surprised if that’s what got them found, but it might have just been their sales volume making accidents happen.

 

[ivandragovich]

Multiple people complaining on sst and eroids that their domestic US to US order was held for inspections, with k4l offering reships to different addresses making everyone involved freak their addresses were burned. Advertising on Facebook is super brazen and I would not be surprised if that’s what got them found, but it might have just been their sales volume making accidents happen.

Yikes, glad I never order from those overused labs. I’ll have to go over on SST and check this dumpster fire out.

 

[malfeasance]

Amazing. What would cause a dealer to advertise on Facebook. What would cause a domestic dealer to do reships if a bunch of packages are held in domestic mail . . .

Like, don't they see it coming?

 

[songsofpyramids]

Yikes, glad I never order from those overused labs. I’ll have to go over on SST and check this dumpster fire out.

I always felt then operating with a clearnet storefront for pharma and ugl gear was a recipe for disaster. Those are the lowest hanging fruit for le imo.

Amazing. What would cause a dealer to advertise on Facebook. What would cause a domestic dealer to do reships if a bunch of packages are held in domestic mail . . .

Feeling untouchable is the only thing I can think. Apparently he has enough seized for inspection packs that he nuked their accounts on his site, and made them contact him for reship. The screwed guys came back and reported they needed new addresses and worried if they needed to be freaked about other packs they had coming. Scary stuff.

Like, don't they see it coming?

All I know is I saw it coming just from looking at the way their op is run and been waiting for something like this, so they have zero excuses not to see it coming.

 

[ivandragovich]

I always felt then operating with a clearnet storefront for pharma and ugl gear was a recipe for disaster. Those are the lowest hanging fruit for le imo.



Feeling untouchable is the only thing I can think. Apparently he has enough seized for inspection packs that he nuked their accounts on his site, and made them contact him for reship. The screwed guys came back and reported they needed new addresses and worried if they needed to be freaked about other packs they had coming. Scary stuff.



All I know is I saw it coming just from looking at the way their op is run and been waiting for something like this, so they have zero excuses not to see it coming.

Can you link any of these posts? I’m having a hard time finding the scared members you mention. I directly asked these questions to kits4less. I’ll see what they have to say.

 

[bnp2]

Yeah, this. You would be disturbed if you knew how much information they had about your mail, stored for years.


Now this is something I have never heard of them following up on, i.e., going after customers after busting a seller. I cannot even think of one example.

You seem to know a lot about how someone can get busted. If hgh isn't in the controlled substance list as schedule 1 2 3 4 5 and it's just a prescription drug(at least in my state) . That's a misdemeanor right? So is that less dangerous to order domestic? How do you order anything now without being terrified and where do you put used vials lol I'm just doing trt now but I want hgh still because honestly you've scared the fuck out of me lol not just from this post but I've seen other posts too where you've said basically we are not as safe as people think they are so I'm curious

 

[songsofpyramids]

You seem to know a lot about how someone can get busted. If hgh isn't in the controlled substance list as schedule 1 2 3 4 5 and it's just a prescription drug(at least in my state) . That's a misdemeanor right? So is that less dangerous to order domestic? How do you order anything now without being terrified and where do you put used vials lol I'm just doing trt now but I want hgh still because honestly you've scared the fuck out of me lol not just from this post but I've seen other posts too where you've said basically we are not as safe as people think they are so I'm curious

Hgh, Hcg, and hmg are all controlled drugs.

 

[songsofpyramids]

Can you link any of these posts? I’m having a hard time finding the scared members you mention. I directly asked these questions to kits4less. I’ll see what they have to say.

https://www.eroids.com/sourcetalk/kits4less.com

Bottom of the first page of comments you got people getting letters from usps. There’s more if you go further back too.

 

[ivandragovich]

https://www.eroids.com/sourcetalk/kits4less.com

Bottom of the first page of comments you got people getting letters from usps. There’s more if you go further back too.

Thank you. If this is true and the Facebook thing is true… what a disaster. This is why I sit on a source for a bit before I decide to order. Even being cautious is never a guarantee for safe packages or quality gear. Just a game we play.

Curious to see if I’ll get a response on SST. I’ll update if I do.

 

[bnp2]

Hgh, Hcg, and hmg are all controlled drugs.

Hmmmm i read the control substances from A to Z .... somatropin or hgh i could not find on there. I type in Google is human growth hormone a controlled substance in *enter state * and it's says its not in the state im in. It says it is in the state next to me though. Must not be on the list because it's maybe up to the state if it's controlled or not but if you read through the alphabetical controlled substance list, i can not find it and ive looked it up and down over 5 times.
I looked through all the schedule 1 2 3 4 and 5 and can't find it on there. I

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Hmmmm i read the control substances from A to Z .... somatropin or hgh i could not find on there. I type in Google is human growth hormone a controlled substance in *enter state * and it's says its not in the state im in. It says it is in the state next to me though. Must not be on the list because it's maybe up to the state if it's controlled or not but if you read through the alphabetical controlled substance list, i can not find it and ive looked it up and down over 5 times.
I looked through all the schedule 1 2 3 4 and 5 and can't find it on there. I

Human growth hormone is not controlled under the ControlledSubstances Act (CSA). However, as part of the 1990 AnabolicSteroids Control Act, the distribution and possession, with theintent to distribute, of hGH “for any use…other than the treatmentof a disease or other recognized medical condition, where suchuse has been authorized by the Secretary of Health and HumanServices…and pursuant to the order of a physician…” wascriminalized as a five-year felony under the penalties chapter ofthe Food, Drug, and Cosmetics Act of the FDA

 

[bnp2]

Human growth hormone is not controlled under the ControlledSubstances Act (CSA). However, as part of the 1990 AnabolicSteroids Control Act, the distribution and possession, with theintent to distribute, of hGH “for any use…other than the treatmentof a disease or other recognized medical condition, where suchuse has been authorized by the Secretary of Health and HumanServices…and pursuant to the order of a physician…” wascriminalized as a five-year felony under the penalties chapter ofthe Food, Drug, and Cosmetics Act of the FDA

Damn that fucking sucks

 

[ivandragovich]

Kits4less on SST responded to me:

“ At one of our drop offs, there was a chunk of packages that were held and inspected, and eventually seized. Ironically, one of the customers in question who got their order held mentioned getting another package held/seized from a domestic source. This leads us to believe that his name/address potentially "flagged" every package dropped off with that return address.

Its our understanding that USPS significantly ramps up detection efforts during the current holiday season, due to the excessively high package volume they see every year. With this, they are likely forced to take more of a "shotgun" style approach to package detection. (This could be one of the real underlying reasons you see a lot of sources take a holiday break, besides just for family time)

This is obviously alarming, as domestic seizures are very uncommon. That said, this seems to be an isolated incident, and we multiple precautions have been implemented. We've had no further issues, but it goes without saying that if you're particularly concerned/paranoid then you should hold off on ordering.

ivandragovich said:
“That’s a terrible idea for any source to be on the clearnet like that.”

SST is the clearnet. The "darknet" requires TOR to access. I understand us having a Facebook account is concerning at face value, but nobody on our team has ever accessed the account. It's an account ran on our behalf by a company in the middle east that we pay in XMR.”

 

[songsofpyramids]

Kits4less on SST responded to me:

“ At one of our drop offs, there was a chunk of packages that were held and inspected, and eventually seized. Ironically, one of the customers in question who got their order held mentioned getting another package held/seized from a domestic source. This leads us to believe that his name/address potentially "flagged" every package dropped off with that return address.

Its our understanding that USPS significantly ramps up detection efforts during the current holiday season, due to the excessively high package volume they see every year. With this, they are likely forced to take more of a "shotgun" style approach to package detection. (This could be one of the real underlying reasons you see a lot of sources take a holiday break, besides just for family time)

This is obviously alarming, as domestic seizures are very uncommon. That said, this seems to be an isolated incident, and we multiple precautions have been implemented. We've had no further issues, but it goes without saying that if you're particularly concerned/paranoid then you should hold off on ordering.

ivandragovich said:
“That’s a terrible idea for any source to be on the clearnet like that.”

SST is the clearnet. The "darknet" requires TOR to access. I understand us having a Facebook account is concerning at face value, but nobody on our team has ever accessed the account. It's an account ran on our behalf by a company in the middle east that we pay in XMR.”

There’s a lot of pr talk in there for what seems to be saying “our operation is now under investigation.” Loosing “a chunk” of domestic packs to le seizures isn’t just going to be ignored. Also, so what if his team never logs into the fb page? It’s still a bright flashing red light that screams “investigate me.” Interesting about the holiday break for domestic vendors, that explains why so many do take this time of year off.

 

[ivandragovich]

There’s a lot of pr talk in there for what seems to be saying “our operation is now under investigation.” Loosing “a chunk” of domestic packs to le seizures isn’t just going to be ignored. Also, so what if his team never logs into the fb page? It’s still a bright flashing red light that screams “investigate me.” Interesting about the holiday break for domestic vendors, that explains why so many do take this time of year off.

Yea, you’d be a fool to order from kits4less right now or anytime in the future. All it takes is one bored postal inspector in a smaller town, with a lot of bored local PD, itching to make it on the cover of their shitty newspaper.