Josh Bridgman arrested

[malfeasance]

Thanks for posting those details. While we could try searching around the internet, it would have been very helpful if you had provided links.

Anyway, it is good to learn what might have put him on the radar.

What more did the neighbor say? Were those details provided?

 

[ivandragovich]

Not fear-mongering, as I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment, which I thought I made clear in my post? Sure you were not meaning to reply to @malfeasance ? As it seems we are on the same page.

I fucked up my reply lol, my bad. I’m not attacking or anything. I agree with everyone on here for the most part actually. Millard and Malfeasance alike. Just adding that usually there is more to the story. I will admit, the fear of getting caught is always in the back of my head, tend to get a bit defensive on this topic due to that fear. Nobody wants to get caught. Must face the reality of this tho. So stupid that you can do drugs openly in Portland but steroids are looked at in such a bad negative light. Ridiculous.

 

[ivandragovich]

Thanks for posting those details. While we could try searching around the internet, it would have been very helpful if you had provided links.

Anyway, it is good to learn what might have put him on the radar.

What more did the neighbor say? Were those details provided?

Here is the link, there are few other links around Google with case transcripts providing the details about conspiracy he claimed and lovers quarrel claims:

Nebraska Man Claims Conspiracy When It Comes to PED Conviction - Steroid Abuse

All may be fair in love and war, but Brent McCormick (age 50) is claiming foul play and has been trying to implicate his Read More

www.steroidabuse.org

 

[ivandragovich]

Thanks for posting those details. While we could try searching around the internet, it would have been very helpful if you had provided links.

Anyway, it is good to learn what might have put him on the radar.

What more did the neighbor say? Were those details provided?

Poor bastard died of cancer after all that in 23’

Brent Lee McCormick - View Obituary & Service Information

Share Memories and Support the Family.

www.campbellaman.com

 

[malfeasance]

Not fear-mongering, as I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment, which I thought I made clear in my post? Sure you were not meaning to reply to @malfeasance ? As it seems we are on the same page.

He quoted you and said "Yes and this is supported by further details . . ." it is difficult to see how you thought he was accusing you of fear mongering.


I still stand by what I wrote before, though.

There are personal use steroid cases. They do not make the news. I have seen these myself. I am not writing about something I read on the internet.

I know for a fact (not something I looked up on the internet) that postal inspectors do everything they can to go after personal use shipments to the end user, the consumer, that is, you. I also know that the vast, vast majority of shipments get through the mail without getting caught.

Not all of them, though. This is contraband. They actively try to intercept it. Their means for intercepting steroids are not very good, but sometimes they just luck into it.

I have explained some of the ways that they do this, and all I got in response was mocking, sarcastic crap.

It is difficult to write about something you know and be mocked by persons who do not know anything and have no personal experience but are quite emphatic about what they think they know. Others join in because, well, humans are social creatures, and once they posts start, everybody wants to get their opinion in, whether they have a factual basis for that opinion or not.

I am not posting about my opinion. I am posting things I know about and with which I have personal experience. With very few exceptions, these things I know never made any news articles. Most drug cases, especially for personal possession, never makes the news. It is not newsworthy.

 

[malfeasance]

Poor bastard died of cancer after all that in 23’

Brent Lee McCormick - View Obituary & Service Information

Share Memories and Support the Family.

www.campbellaman.com

One of the personal use cases I posted some time back (out of Louisiana) also died. I can't find it now, but the guy who was really young at the time ordered international and customs alerted the locals, who got all fired up and did a controlled delivery. And it made the news for some reason. I posted links to that and his obituary, too.

 

[ivandragovich]

He quoted you and said "Yes and this is supported by further details . . ." it is difficult to see how you thought he was accusing you of fear mongering.


I still stand by what I wrote before, though.

There are personal use steroid cases. They do not make the news. I have seen these myself. I am not writing about something I read on the internet.

I know for a fact (not something I looked up on the internet) that postal inspectors do everything they can to go after personal use shipments to the end user, the consumer, that is, you. I also know that the vast, vast majority of shipments get through the mail without getting caught.

Not all of them, though. This is contraband. They actively try to intercept it. Their means for intercepting steroids are not very good, but sometimes they just luck into it.

I have explained some of the ways that they do this, and all I got in response was mocking, sarcastic crap.

It is difficult to write about something you know and be mocked by persons who do not know anything and have no personal experience but are quite emphatic about what they think they know. Others join in because, well, humans are social creatures, and once they posts start, everybody wants to get their opinion in, whether they have a factual basis for that opinion or not.

I am not posting about my opinion. I am posting things I know about and with which I have personal experience. With very few exceptions, these things I know never made any news articles. Most drug cases, especially for personal possession, never makes the news. It is not newsworthy.

I’m not going to mock, I agree. Mocking comes from a place of fear and irrational logic. We can all be caught at any given time, the ones who use UGL that is. Unfortunately it is the reality of the game. I have been strongly considering stopping this shit, as I have too much at stake in my life. Feel like a fucking drug addict, stopping is hard, when being “swol” is part of you and people see you as that. Mental fuckery for sure.

 

[ivandragovich]

One of the personal use cases I posted some time back (out of Louisiana) also died. I can't find it now, but the guy who was really young at the time ordered international and customs alerted the locals, who got all fired up and did a controlled delivery. And it made the news for some reason. I posted links to that and his obituary, too.

The stress fucking killed them. I’ll void a little extra oil out of the syringe in their name.

 

[iris]

Here is the link, there are few other links around Google with case transcripts providing the details about conspiracy he claimed and lovers quarrel claims:

Nebraska Man Claims Conspiracy When It Comes to PED Conviction - Steroid Abuse

All may be fair in love and war, but Brent McCormick (age 50) is claiming foul play and has been trying to implicate his Read More

www.steroidabuse.org

So, in the end, we are back to acknowledging that there must be other, serious underlying reasons that would lead one to be arrested for "Steroid possession", after finding a vial in the trash can.
That's just incidental and something to add to the police report, in all cases highlighted.

@malfeasance idk if you want to reveal that, but have you had packages seized by postal inspectors that resulted in a criminal record/caution/Court appearance?
Where I am personal possession is legal, so it's always interesting to see how it works in other countries.
You know many instances where people were arrested for personal use, because their package was intercepted.
But I was wondering whether this has happened to you.
You don't have to say.

I think nobody doubts your knowledge but they want to put it in context, with regards to how many shipments of illegal drugs happen every day in the States and how many packages are seized and lead to arrest (the sole focus being a package containing steroids for personal possession being targeted).

And what I have in mind is not big quantities of stuff one may resell, obviously.
You can object to seeing this simply as a numbers game, of course.

 

[ivandragovich]

Also, not to muddy up this thread even more, might be good practice to discard of your labels (if the vials have them). Maybe go as far as crush up the vials and throw them out this way. I mean that is extra paranoid meth-head type stuff but never hurts to be extra safe I guess lol.

 

[malfeasance]

Here is the link, there are few other links around Google with case transcripts providing the details about conspiracy he claimed and lovers quarrel claims:

Nebraska Man Claims Conspiracy When It Comes to PED Conviction - Steroid Abuse

All may be fair in love and war, but Brent McCormick (age 50) is claiming foul play and has been trying to implicate his Read More

www.steroidabuse.org

Wow, disturbing. Thanks for posting that.

So, if you live in Washington County, all it takes for somebody who wants to harm you and knows you use steroids is an anonymous call to the Sheriff's Office telling them you are a dealer.

They find evidence of use, not dealing, and it is a pre-sunrise raid on your house with a swat team.

And then they get to tell the jury about this anonymous out of court claim that he was a dealer? Did he not have an attorney to object to this crap?


And he thinks it was his ex-girlfriend with whom he had just broken up.

And folks on here still think it is ok to tell their girlfriends about this stuff? Just be all open about it? LOL. You are putting yourself at risk.

To be clear, there is zero evidence, nothing at all, that Mr. McCormick was ever a dealer. No evidence at all.

The domestic violence charge that you mentioned occurred after his arrest, while he was waiting for trial, so that had nothing to do with the Sheriff's Office raiding his home and arresting him on a felony drug charge based on nothing more than two empty vials and some syringes in his trash and an anonymous phone call probably from his pissed off ex-girlfriend (you go, girl, make that man pay, you beautiful and he an asshole - I can hear all her friends).

And then jury tampering, damn, this dude is not very smart.

BOTTOM LINE - Two empty vials and used syringes in the trash and an anonymous phone call to the Sheriff's Office is all it takes for a raid and felony arrest. Into jail you go.

This is not a dealer case. There is not a hint of dealing. The ex-girlfriend may have claimed that on the telephone call, but the search of the trash did not back that up. The search of the trash revealed he was using, not dealing. They went forward with the raid, anyway.

But some of you want us to believe that when evidence of a felony level drug crime comes to the attention of your local police, that they do not care and will not do anything about it. That is simply not true. They will. Not dealing? So what. They did not take the cuffs off of him, apologize, and promise to fix his broken door. No, they tossed him in jail. They took him to trial.

The former chief deputy urged the court at sentencing to put him on probation, but that is pretty normal for first time drug offenses, anyway.

Think the jury will save you?

Ha! Thirty minutes from the time they were released to deliberate they were back in that courtroom announcing a unanimous guilty verdict.

 

[malfeasance]

Anybody know what his sentence was?

 

[malfeasance]

So, in the end, we are back to acknowledging that there must be other, serious underlying reasons that would lead one to be arrested for "Steroid possession", after finding a vial in the trash can.

What were the "other, serious underlying reasons" in this case?

An anonymous phone call with no corroboration claiming that he dealt in steroids. A search of his trash the indicates he uses steroids and that steroids are likely to be found there because they found used syringes and two empty vials.

What are these "other, serious underlying reasons?"

After they searched his house, they booked him for possession of one vial. From Millard's post (quote is from the news story), "They found McCormack at home and they also found a vial of Dragon Pharma Deca 300 (nandrolone decanoate) and a box containing several unused syringes."

"A vial."

Unused syringes.

That's it.

And that is enough.

Off to jail, felony charges, indictment, and a jury trial.

Everything else mentioned happened after his arrest. There were no serious underlying reasons, unless you include that he was stupid enough to think cops don't care about steroids, so he stupidly let his girlfriend know that he had steroids.

If you think cops don't care about steroid possession, you are wrong. If you think it is safe to let a girlfriend know about your steroid use, you are wrong. There are no serious underlying reasons in this case. Use. Possession, One vial of Deca. That's it.

 

[iris]

What were the "other, serious underlying reasons" in this case?

An anonymous phone call with no corroboration claiming that he dealt in steroids. A search of his trash the indicates he uses steroids and that steroids are likely to be found there because they found used syringes and two empty vials.

What are these "other, serious underlying reasons?"

After they searched his house, they booked him for possession of one vial. From Millard's post (quote is from the news story), "They found McCormack at home and they also found a vial of Dragon Pharma Deca 300 (nandrolone decanoate) and a box containing several unused syringes."

"A vial."

Unused syringes.

That's it.

And that is enough.

Off to jail, felony charges, indictment, and a jury trial.

Everything else mentioned happened after his arrest. There were no serious underlying reasons, unless you include that he was stupid enough to think cops don't care about steroids, so he stupidly let his girlfriend know that he had steroids.

If you think cops don't care about steroid possession, you are wrong. If you think it is safe to let a girlfriend know about your steroid use, you are wrong. There are no serious underlying reasons in this case. Use. Possession, One vial of Deca. That's it.

Just a quick correction/addition to #1. Quick search on this case reveals that McCormick was actually suspected as a dealer as well during the little tip off there. Cops aren’t wasting resources and time to dig through trash for personal use tips. The dealer part got them salivating, and willing to spend resources. Just FYI.

The gentleman says this guy was already suspended as a drug dealer, as they went to look through the trash can thanks to his girlfriend.
So, they already had info on him and was on the radar.
Did I read this post wrong?

 

[ivandragovich]

The gentleman says this guy was already suspended as a drug dealer, as they went to look through the trash can thanks to his girlfriend.
So, they already had info on him and was on the radar.
Did I read this post wrong?

It’s all based on the anonymous phone call, I guess the phone call alone was enough for them to do all this. There are no details on the full investigation, so I was a bit too general with my statement. Unfortunately as it stands, the phone call was enough for this to trigger a full on investigation. Sad really.

 

[ivandragovich]

Well this thread has done nothing but increase my paranoia even more, fuck me for starting it even. Back in my corner I go looking at my stash contemplating just TRT moving forward.

 

[Ghoul]

It’s all based on the anonymous phone call, I guess the phone call alone was enough for them to do all this. There are no details on the full investigation, so I was a bit too general with my statement. Unfortunately as it stands, the phone call was enough for this to trigger a full on investigation. Sad really.

The man was under indictment for jury tampering and assault. 7 years ago. He's dead now btw.

Never seems to be a "clean" case of someone prosecuted for possession of personal use amount, but oddball, rare cases, likely the one and only ever seen in the prosecutors and judge's career.

4 million steroid users in the US. thousands of shipments seized every year.....

Think your shipment of hash or xanax caught at the border would go unprosecuted?

But yes, if you're on the radar for violent crime, intimidating jurors, and they can go after you for ripping the "do not remove under penalty of law" tag on your mattress, you can bet they will.

Be afraid tag rippers, be very afraid.

 

[malfeasance]

The man was under indictment for jury tampering and assault. 7 years ago. He's dead now btw.

Never seems to be a "clean" case of someone prosecuted for possession of personal use amount, but oddball, rare cases, likely the one and only ever seen in the prosecutors and judge's career.

4 million steroid users in the US. thousands of shipments seized every year.....

Think your shipment of hash or xanax caught at the border would go unprosecuted?

But yes, if you're on the radar for violent crime, intimidating jurors, and they can go after you for ripping the "do not remove under penalty of law" tag on your mattress, you can bet they will.

Be afraid tag rippers, be very afraid.

Jury tampering and assault came after, not before, the arrest for just one vial of Deca.

Nobody here is arguing that it is not rare, although I am 100% certain it is not anywhere near as rare as you would like us to believe, but that is because I see these things happen, while you want to find news stories. For the most part, nobody writes news stories about arrests for small amounts of drugs, including steroids. That does not mean it does not happen.

You are not tied into postal inspectors or law enforcement drug task forces, or you would be more aware of what is going on out there.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Maybe go as far as crush up the vials and throw them out this way. I mean that is extra paranoid meth-head type stuff but never hurts to be extra safe I guess lol.

I would weigh the risk (likelihood x impact) that you injure yourself breaking the glass vials as far greater than the risk associated with throwing them out intact.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Back in my corner I go looking at my stash contemplating just TRT moving forward.

They just discontinued test prop at compounding pharmacies across the nation, so if that's your ester of choice, legitimate TRT is now off the table.