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[johnnyBALLZ]

HAHAHAHA Well shit if you say so CBS it must happen. I mean you're so widely known and respected throughout the boards!! Funny you guys have been run off EVERY board you go on , like a plague
So now Brutus , your FEARLESS Leader decides it's time to PM member here instead of just openly posting his complaints? Check the ''what kinda guy thread''.. Fuckin hypocrites. AND Yes IM is right, it sure as hell sounds and looks like a reverse scam to everybody. NOT ONE OTHER SINGLE COMPLAINT. Just Brutus and Jball..You all don't find that a little odd?

I think it's clear, people here don't find that odd.. Look at this bullshit, going on two weeks now.. What person in their right mind would want to deal with all this? Who else would come forward to be attacked??

Completely different situation in that thread, if you read it you'd know not to make such a statement..

 

[graniteman]

"Why is MESO the only place where members are allowed to call "bullshit" on this practice?"

This question is obviously a rhetorical question. The degree to which this practice thrives is the degree to which the forum in question is source-driven.

Any truly community-driven forum would never tolerate such a practice. That's why MESO members don't play by source rules.

Millard, you have been around forever. Do you really believe this is the way to go or just placating your members? This type of behavior\dealing with problems only swings the doors wide open for reverse scamming and a source being blackmailed. You know this. Which is why steps should be taken not just a ''HEY , YOU SOLD ME BUNK SHIT DOOOD''
Respectfully,
Gman

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Millard, you have been around forever. Do you really believe this is the way to go or just placating your members? This type of behavior\dealing with problems only swings the doors wide open for reverse scamming and a source being blackmailed. You know this. Which is why steps should be taken not just a ''HEY , YOU SOLD ME BUNK SHIT DOOOD''
Respectfully,
Gman

You sound like such an idiot.. Haven't lost a step, old timer..

Protect the source!!

 

[graniteman]

I think it's clear, people here don't find that odd.. Look at this bullshit, going on two weeks now.. What person in their right mind would want to deal with all your bullshit..

Completely different situation in that thread, if you read it you'd know not to make such a statement..

So you're saying ALP cooked up a special bunk batch for you and brutus , knowing you would order and planned to scam you out of $500 ?? Really JB, I expected mor eout of you.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

So you're saying ALP cooked up a special bunk batch for you and brutus , knowing you would order and planned to scam you out of $500 ?? Really JB, I expected mor eout of you.

No, this is what I'm saying and have been saying over and over again for almost 2 weeks..

Well, it's been one of those days regular and I can't fully respond to your post at the moment..

I talked to you once a long time ago but I mostly got to know you through Ben.. I know you're one of the good guys, and in my book, you're right up there with Millard and Mugzy..

What I'll say for now is this was not a reverse scam, I think brutus and I have both made it pretty clear we don't want anything.. Though I agree scams work both ways..

I sent var, anadrol, nolva, and dbol to a third party to labmax after we had questions.. Brutus ran the anadrol, nothing.. Brutus has now been running the var for close to 2 weeks at 80mg/day, nothing.. I was taking up to "150mg" of the Cialis, nothing(yes I've responded to Cialis before).. I ran the nolva and it was not keeping my gyno at bay.

The var and anadrol failed labmax.. The dbol is questionable as it didn't respond under UV.. The nolva tested similar to dbol and was not a nolva pass..

I emailed K 12 days ago, no response to me or brutus..

I also have adex and clomid, obviously haven't tested them but as I hope you can see, I don't have much faith..

We're sending a few samples in for MS on our own dime..

These are the facts as of now..

K must be better than Pfizer to never have legitimate complaints...

 

[tacohuman]

NOT ONE OTHER SINGLE COMPLAINT. Just Brutus and Jball..You all don't find that a little odd?

Didn't you complain in PM to Brutus? I find it odd as fuck actually. K has a better track record than billion dollar corporations with hundreds of QC personnel.

 

[graniteman]

No, this is what I'm saying and have been saying over and over again for almost 2 weeks..

I also have adex and clomid, obviously haven't tested them but as I hope you can see, I don't have much faith..

We're sending a few samples in for MS on our own dime..

These are the facts as of now..



^^^^Didn't you and Brutus say you got gyno from the bad ancillaries at 1st? Or was that only until you realized the timelines were being called into question then changed your stories??...Gettin deeper JB.. might wanna stop diggin

 

[graniteman]

Didn't you complain in PM to Brutus? I find it odd as fuck actually. K has a better track record than billion dollar corporations with hundreds of QC personnel.

I told him to post it up. I also explained ugl tabs consistency vs pharma .

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I also have adex and clomid, obviously haven't tested them but as I hope you can see, I don't have much faith..

We're sending a few samples in for MS on our own dime..

These are the facts as of now..



^^^^Didn't you and Brutus say you got gyno from the bad ancillaries at 1st? Or was that only until you realized the timelines were being called into question then changed your stories??...Gettin deeper JB.. might wanna stop diggin

Show me the post GM or stop talking out of your drunk ass.. I never said that and regular quoted the post where I clarified..

Brutus said I was having surgery and I did.. My gyno did get worse while taking the nolva(dbol) but no it was not the start of the problem..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I also find it quite funny that you haven't had the nuts to post here in a week then you show back up a few hours after regular says you should be a VIP at AB.. You're trying way to hard, everyone knows it..

I'm going to bed soon, you aren't going to keep me up until 1:30am again.. Hurry up with what you're going to say next if you want me to see it, or hold off if you don't..

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

HAHAHAHA Well shit if you say so CBS it must happen. I mean you're so widely known and respected throughout the boards!! Funny you guys have been run off EVERY board you go on , like a plague

Perhaps you should enlighten everyone here and tell us what forums have I been run off. Don't worry, Granite, the question was rhetorical. I know you'll ignore it anyway.

As far as other forums go, I've seen them and they're not for me. I also have no problems admitting that I'm probably not for them either. CBS and censored boards are like oil and water - we don't mix. I don't like being told what I can and can't say by some mod on a power trip who was still in diapers when I started out in this online racket. See, I still remember when "moderated" was a dirty word. Unfortunately, most of us who do remember have moved on from online discussion groups. It's unfortunate because an entire generation have never known what an truly uncensored discussion group is. Thankfully, Millard is one of those who does remember and he's done his part to keep that idea alive with MesoRx - despite the repeated calls from pro-censorship advocates to moderate the forum - and for that reason, I have no desire to go anywhere else. As to whether I'm respected here.. I'll leave that to the members.

Fuckin hypocrites. AND Yes IM is right, it sure as hell sounds and looks like a reverse scam to everybody. NOT ONE OTHER SINGLE COMPLAINT. Just Brutus and Jball..You all don't find that a little odd?

Only to simpleminded yes-men like you who cannot comprehend the fact that both have openly stated that not only do they not want anything from K, but they will not accept anything either.

YOU, on the other hand, sure as hell sound like a shill to everybody here.

 

[graniteman]

Labmax was done after 200 mg a day anadrol no effect, 4 cialis chewed no effect and a friends pct is ending in gyno surgery.

Show me the post GM or stop talking out of your drunk ass.. I never said that and regular quoted the post where I clarified..

Here ya go.
Brutus said I was having surgery and I did.. My gyno did get worse while taking the nolva(dbol) but no it was not the start of the problem..

brutus79 Well-Known Member
enjoy_tren said: ↑
I assume the test done was a labmax?
Labmax was done after 200 mg a day anadrol no effect, 4 cialis chewed no effect and a friends pct is ending in gyno surgery.
brutus79, Aug 3, 2014

 

[graniteman]

That work for ya JB? Splain that one

I got a screen shot so deleting it wont help

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

brutus79 Well-Known Member
enjoy_tren said: ↑
I assume the test done was a labmax?
Labmax was done after 200 mg a day anadrol no effect, 4 cialis chewed no effect and a friends pct is ending in gyno surgery.
brutus79, Aug 3, 2014 Report
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My pct did end with gyno surgery.. It was planned but the "nolva" made the gyno worse..

What the fuck is you're point?

Where's the mystery post where someone said it was the cause of my gyno??

Damn, you know how to twist shit..

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

So you're saying ALP cooked up a special bunk batch for you and brutus , knowing you would order and planned to scam you out of $500 ?? Really JB, I expected mor eout of you.

Man, K must pay well!

 

[graniteman]

My pct did end with gyno surgery.. It was planned but the "nolva" made the gyno worse..

What the fuck is you're point?

Where's the mystery post where some said it was the cause of my gyno??

Damn, you know how to twist shit..

My hope here is other memebers wil lsee what you 2-3 are ABOUT. you asked me to show you the post about claiming gyno. I did, Good nite.
I hope you other memebers look at all this critically, it's pretty simple

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

My hope here is other memebers wil lsee what you 2-3 are ABOUT. you asked me to show you the post about claiming gyno. I did, Good nite.
I hope you other memebers look at all this critically, it's pretty simple

Yea, and you didn't find a post claiming it was the cause of gyno.. Just the facts as explained below.. Of course you ignored most of this post:

My pct did end with gyno surgery.. It was planned but the "nolva" made the gyno worse..

What the fuck is you're point?

Where's the mystery post where someone said it was the cause of my gyno??

Damn, you know how to twist shit..

Goodnight, I hope.

 

[tacohuman]

I was going to go through IM and Gmans arguments and tear them apart piece by piece, but it got way too long. Just google logical fallacy list. In particular

argument ad hominem
argument from silence
argument from repitition
moving the goalposts
onus probandi
cherry picking
false analogy
wishful thinking

The cherry picking and repetition in particular are getting absurd. They can't come close to beating the arguments against them so they're constantly picking the same fights. The gyno issue just brought up appears to be a matter of Gman having poor reading comprehension.

Regular had some good points that pretty much everyone at least acknowledged as being legitimate to a point. It gets into source vs consumer at a point which is a matter of perspective and one that entire books are written about for econ classes.

 

[enjoy_tren]

I just have one question. Why was this labmax test never videotaped? It would be more credible if we saw the actual tabs and the testing from start to finish

 

[tacohuman]

I just have one question. Why was this labmax test never videotaped? It would be more credible if we saw the actual tabs and the testing from start to finish

If I had to guess, id say because that would be a ridiculous requirement for a test to be considered valid. Do we need to video tape the mass spec too?

The evidence has been presented, its now on K to establish evidence to the contrary. I think both parties have sent samples for mass spec which will probably be polar opposite.