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[regular]

So regular did you explain to italianhustler that that the whole pedofile thing is out of line too throw a jacket

Like that on some one with out proof? Cause I am all most positive he wouldn't have said that person.

Regards Mr.Bravo

I get along well with IM. I think he gets a kick out of winding people up when he has conflicts with them.

I'm really careful about calling someone a rat or a chomo. I've seen unpleasant things happen to people when those words are spoken.

Well, it's been one of those days regular and I can't fully respond to your post at the moment..

I talked to you once a long time ago but I mostly got to know you through Ben.. I know you're one of the good guys, and in my book, you're right up there with Millard and Mugzy..

What I'll say for now is this was not a reverse scam, I think brutus and I have both made it pretty clear we don't want anything.. Though I agree scams work both ways..

I sent var, anadrol, nolva, and dbol to a third party to labmax after we had questions.. Brutus ran the anadrol, nothing.. Brutus has now been running the var for close to 2 weeks at 80mg/day, nothing.. I was taking up to "150mg" of the Cialis, nothing(yes I've responded to Cialis before).. I ran the nolva and it was not keeping my gyno at bay.

The var and anadrol failed labmax.. The dbol is questionable as it didn't respond under UV.. The nolva tested similar to dbol and was not a nolva pass..

I emailed K 12 days ago, no response to me or brutus..

I also have adex and clomid, obviously haven't tested them but as I hope you can see, I don't have much faith..

We're sending a few samples in for MS on our own dime..

These are the facts as of now..

I really appreciate the warm comments and your confidence in me. I've only had good contact with you too. Ben was one of the earliest friends I made on the boards.

I don't think you guys are running a scam or “reverse scam.” The point I was trying to illustrate is that I don't automatically believe every claim that every client has because I've seen clients make blatantly false claims. I try to look out for everyone and try to find the truth. That's not to say that the problem you're having isn't legitimate. You guys could have received four poor products.

I am very skeptical of using UV light and color changes in a labmax to determine a product's authenticity. Additionally, you're saying a third party conducted the labmax. I have no idea who even conducted the Labmax test or if they are reliable. Estacydata can at least tell you what something is reliably and everyone can see the results. I'd send the products to them instead of an unlicensed lab. If you claim the product was sold as ecstasy, you should be able to get it tested for $40. http://www.ecstasydata.org/send_sample.php

K's var was tested by them and confirmed to be var once before. http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?start=0&search_field=all&s=anavar

This is the first complaint like this I've received since joining the staff at AB. You and Brutus know me, you guys could have contacted me at any time and I would have helped you out. I would have responded to this sooner but don't check in here much because I'm really busy. I'll talk to K.

I didn't read all of the posts in this thread but it seemed as if everyone winding each other up was carrying over into K's feedback.

This could have played out diferently. It is completely out of hand.

The only thing we can do it test the product inn question to everyone s satisfaction.

Not much else to say here.

If their products were poor that should be addressed by the vendor. If they test well, no harm no foul, hopefully JB and Brutus will be straight with everyone and say so.

Again regular- you are a person I have quite a bit of respect for- and my respect I have for people I don't really know well is very limited to say the least. I appreciate you taking the time to address me not once, but twice- and botg times with eloquence and respect... Much unlike some of the aforementioned parties I have had less than cordial interactions with. As far as "the boards" my home is here... and I will keep a respectful distance from those who rub me the wrong way.

Wanting someone dead... shit- I wish five people dead on my way to work every day. I didn't actually say it although he served up the mother of all insults to me- had we been in person there would be people in the hospital over it. Just how I grew up. Thanks for not hacking my home network and posting those pics of me raping a unicorn boss! I appreciate it.

My closing argument is that I wouldn't even complain about a steak- just eat the sides and make do... they would probably wipe their ass with it anyway. If I got a bad drink, steak, salad and dessert I would walk out and tell everyone I know to never go there again.

I get the fallibility of my "personal reactions" to compounds. It is what it is- maybe some Ethiopian would have made a swell meal out of that steak. I am sorry that my reaction was unpalatable (to stay with the food puns) to some; for the most part my personality tends to be incompatible with the majority. Again- thanks for coming at me like a man instead of immediately attacking my integrity. I don't want my meal refunded and I will provide mass spec results that will be immediately discredited by those that disagree with my tactics and dispositions. I sleep well at night as long as I don't think you are tracking me down- then it's one eye open time. Until then- I am in no more need of karius or his services... at the very least I know my body chemistry is immune to many of his compounds.

I appreciate your confidence Brutus, I try do do the best I can with the access I have. You should feel free to participate where you want. You're welcome to come over to AB. You're welcome to leave negative feedback too. I've seen IM and Gman get into it with people and wind up being on good terms in the end.

I understand the gravity of calling someone a child molester and I agree that it's not appropriate to make an accusation like that out of spite.

I'm not saying that you're wrong and the products are good. Every source has issues come up, no matter how good their reputation is. This is the first complaint I've seen where someone is dissatisfied with multiple products.

If you want to test the products and post the results, I feel you should send them to estacydata because they are a legitimate lab and everyone will be able to see a photo of both the sample and results.

I don't track everyone down on a whim, someone has to be in debt or doing something pretty bad to get that level of attention. The last person I worked from here was Biologic. Prior to that was an Uncle Z rep.

Like I told JB, you should have contacted me. I would have helped you. I'll talk to K about this.

This isn't a steak you can send back Regular, especially in the case of pct meds turning out to be dbol. When people send out garbage to customers in this realm someone's health can be at risk.

What evidence is being used to determine the product is garbage? Sending product to an unknown person to run a labmax, the results of which I'm not sure that anyone but the person conducting the test has seen, is weak evidence of a product's authenticity. Is the evidence someone's claim that it is poor? Use a real test from a verifiable analytical lab to construct a stronger argument that the product is something other than it should be.

Brutus had a batch tested and K responded by sending some of his own stuff in to test. Find and dandy right? Can you not see where that is a problem? Who is to say that K didn't send his "good" stuff to be tested? Ever hear of selective scamming? Sounds like the banking industry regulating itself, but i'm sure that works fine.

Yes, I'm aware of selective scamming. If K were a selective scammer, I would have received other complaints making that claim before now. I've been at AB for two years and I've never seen an issue like this with K.

Of course the same could be said of Brutus, but i don't really see what he would get out of that. To the best of my knowledge he isn't selling anything. He just wants what he ordered and in the amount he ordered. The person with the most to lose or gain is K.

Anyone can be scamming anyone on either side. I'm not aware of any evidence to suggest either side intends to scam the other though. The product could be poor due to a supply chain or mislabeling issue. Unscientific unverifiable evidence could be leading the clients to believe they have been ripped off when they haven't. Each side can strongly believe they are correct and be dead wrong, while not intentionnaly deceiving the other. Sources can be deleivering what they think is a consistent product but get screwed by their supplier. Send a pill to estacydata and see what's going on. K's var was already tested once and it was var http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?start=0&search_field=all&s=anavar

If the product is good, I'm not going to conclude JB and Brutus meant to mislead anyone because I've never seen them be deceptive. If the product tests poorly, people should know about it, but I'm not going to conclude it was intentional ( with that evidence alone ) because the supply chain for these raw materials is complicated.

As to moderated boards and their regulation...well if you are saying they are not skewed towards sources(the people that pay the bills) i think you are being naive at best. Those of us who have been around long enough have seen people burned at the stake for calling out a source on a sponsored board. Posts removed, users banned, tests called into question. On sponsored boards it leans heavily in favor of the sources. Things are swept under the rug. That isn't the case here. I lean in favor of the user unless i have reason to believe otherwise.

Each board has its own politics. Stop hanging out on boards that are scammer havens.

So in the end we have Brutus' word and testing versus K's word. Knowing how things go in this business and what we have seen of late i am going to throw the pitchfork at the source more often than not. What sounds more believable...a source jacking shit up or a member burning someone out of hand? I have run out of fingers to count the sources that have misled customers during my stay here, but can't say i remember a source being called out without justification.

It is unfortunate that there have been so many scammers here. I've run a few of them off of this board and helped many people who were on the verge of losing their money here, ask around.

Take your ass back to AB and peddle your nonsense somewhere they will listen. I hear alin is looking for more "doctors" to write excuses for his shit gear and people's poor bloodwork, perhaps you can try to get a position with his staff.

This is the most ignorant post I've read in a long time. I will not forget you saying this to me.

This is a well thought out and very professional response. I think if IM or Gman had responded like this instead of going on the attack this thread may have turned out differently.

I think IM and Brutus didn't like each other before this thread started. They seem to enjoy antagonizing each other. I didn't really read IM and Gman's posts because there were so many and I'm here because Brutus and JB are having an issue that requires assistance.

The two disagreements I have are:

1 - the analogy is nice, but misleading. Customer service in food service doesn't compare to dbol vs. Nolva.

What evidence is being used to determine the nolva is dbol? A test purchased on the internet, conducted by an unknown party who is relaying his findings to the client. Imagine you're in my shoes, how am I supposed to have confidence in that information? It's a claim that someone else made a claim that something was not authentic. I can't pull the trigger on someone for that. Especially when I'm not seeing other complaints. Maybe the products were mislabeled.

The process is essentially the same as a poor order with any product, food or otherwise. They don't like their order. They should seek a replacement or a refund. If they can't get the issue resolved, they should escalate to management.

2 - your comparison to CoAs used in chemical/scientific fields is good. However, those are batch specific and are available if an issue arises. Where are Ks tests? I read somewhere he allegedly tests his raws, though it was secondhand.

I saw him say he was conducting some tests of his own, I never saw the results though. As I've said a few times, his var, which is being questioned in this thead, has already been tested and confirmed to be var: http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?start=0&search_field=all&s=anavar

Some people get certificates of authenticity which they do have on hand. I discourage guys from posting certificates of authenticity. Sometimes the data is in foreign languages and I'm not sure if they contain sensitive information.

To be honest I dont care about any of this beyond the fact that IM and Gman were behaving like shills. I guarantee you Watson and Pfizer and all those other big drug companies have nonconforming product and complaint records about how and when they fucked up. Refusing to admit that K is even capable of a mistake is absurd.

AB doesn't delete or amend feedback. Anyone that wants to see K's track record can look at his feedback thread or ask around. I've been at AB for two years and this is the first strong complaint of multiple products I've run across.

As far as I know, IM and Gman have nothing to do with K's business.

Every vendor has issues come up.

 

[flenser]

I just have one question. Why was this labmax test never videotaped? It would be more credible if we saw the actual tabs and the testing from start to finish

Because I didn't expect the tests to be considered evidence of a crime. They were confirmation for Brutus and JB, and ultimately for K that something was wrong and needed to be investigated. Based on what I've read in this thread, the something wrong has less to do with the drugs than with the attitude of the drug dealer.

At the time of the test I held no cynicism toward K or anyone else involved. Going on K's reputation alone I believed the issues would be handled quickly and fairly. I am completely disillusioned at this point, though. That's partly do to the two assholes that have been squatting in this thread for weeks denying the results (for whatever reason), but more so because K was unable or unwilling to resolve the issue publicly or privately. I would never buy from a company that treated its customers this way, even if they were wrong.

 

[dper726]

Because I didn't expect the tests to be considered evidence of a crime. They were confirmation for Brutus and JB, and ultimately for K that something was wrong and needed to be investigated. Based on what I've read in this thread, the something wrong has less to do with the drugs than with the attitude of the drug dealer.

At the time of the test I held no cynicism toward K or anyone else involved. Going on K's reputation alone I believed the issues would be handled quickly and fairly. I am completely disillusioned at this point, though. That's partly do to the two assholes that have been squatting in this thread for weeks denying the results (for whatever reason), but more so because K was unable or unwilling to resolve the issue publicly or privately. I would never buy from a company that treated its customers this way, even if they were wrong.

I surely wouldn't buy from K anymore if this isn't settled properly, nor would I have a good word to spread if asked. But I do think things will be handled in an orderly fashion.

 

[pmac928]

I surely wouldn't buy from K anymore if this isn't settled properly, nor would I have a good word to spread if asked. But I do think things will be handled in an orderly fashion.

Of course k will now, an admin from ab is here on trying to be diplomatic.

 

[brutus79]

I feel the need to speak up- Regular is far more than an admin from ab. He has helped many people here over the years and has my full trust and respect regardless of his Current affiliations.

Regular- ddog and pmac are good members here and fierce loyalty is part of our creed... please respect it as the loyalty it is rather than the attack it might appear to be.

 

[dper726]

I feel the need to speak up- Regular is far more than an admin from ab. He has helped many people here over the years and has my full trust and respect regardless of his Current affiliations.

Regular- ddog and pmac are good members here and fierce loyalty is part of our creed... please respect it as the loyalty it is rather than the attack it might appear to be.

It was never viewed as an attack. But rather @ItalianMuscle27 spinning this in his direction for personal gain. Whether it was for dick, money or gear we don't know (I'll rather think it was for dick). But that guy walked in here with an agenda from the start.

 

[pmac928]

I'm fairly new and know what I see. And from the looks of it the matter is in the process of getting resolved if regular is here. So if Brutus and jb would have went to a admin from another board it would have been handled better. Personally I think they handled it exactly how it should of been. Here where it should be. If I was beat out of x amount of money I'd be quite angry also. My loyalty lies here at meso and only meso. Not one word that those 2 clowns said will ever change that, for myself and I'm sure dr most other loyal members here.

 

[Fckit]

@regular, I can see why you have the respect of many, including JB and Brutus. I appreciate your willingness to see the other side of things and the respect you show to "our" vets here at Meso.

The disconnect is that JB and Brutus are two of the most respected guys here and have done a lot for the Meso community. Therefore, it's not even a question for us that their intentions are good. I can't speak for them, but the intention was never to ruin K or even try to drag him through the mud. At Meso, our philosophy is full disclosure no matter who or what. I'll mirror what others have said and reaffirm that had you come in from the beginning, this situation would have been WAY more low key and resolved by now.

Regardless, it looks like you are going to make the connection with K and get to the bottom of things. THAT we can all appreciate and respect.

 

[Big_paul]

Regular this is how it should have been from the outset. When someone changes your handle to cocksucker there is no chance problems will e resolved.

 

[Big_paul]

You know bp- I must be hitting nerves with these people- they say the damndest things when they get called out.

Everything ok with you my friend?

I'm doing well brother. Living the dream

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Easy to say when you're hiding behind a computer, IM. Of course you don't have the balls to give Brutus your info - he might want to meet face-to-face and that scares the living shit out of you. You're a nobody, IM. A pathetic, gutless nobody who's never done anything in life and never will. You just take. You're a joke.

Tell brutus Ill fly down and meet him anytime..And why dont you meet us too? You guys are nothing but shit talkers behind a computer..I can back my mouth up, can you? I heard you dont even work out, and brutus can stand to lose a few pounds..

It was never viewed as an attack. But rather @ItalianMuscle27 spinning this in his direction for personal gain. Whether it was for dick, money or gear we don't know (I'll rather think it was for dick). But that guy walked in here with an agenda from the start.

Fuck off dude. My personal gain? What did I gain from this? Ive lost hours of my life arguing with the meso clown fuck crew. I have an attitude, so what? You dont like what I say, PUT ME ON IGNORE! END OF STORY!

Everything that regular said, Ive already been saying, and I get jumped on, smacked down, etc. for it, like Im the bad guy. I aint going anywhere, so deal with it.
Send the pills to ecstasydata, prove me wrong, still waiting for results. If those guys would have sent these pills off weeks ago, we would have results back. Id believe a mass spec test over labmax, any day of the week.

 

[pmac928]

Tell brutus Ill fly down and meet him anytime..And why dont you meet us too? You guys are nothing but shit talkers behind a computer..I can back my mouth up, can you? I heard you dont even work out, and brutus can stand to lose a few pounds..


Fuck off dude. My personal gain? What did I gain from this? Ive lost hours of my life arguing with the meso clown fuck crew. I have an attitude, so what? You dont like what I say, PUT ME ON IGNORE! END OF STORY!

Everything that regular said, Ive already been saying, and I get jumped on, smacked down, etc. for it, like Im the bad guy. I aint going anywhere, so deal with it.
Send the pills to ecstasydata, prove me wrong, still waiting for results. If those guys would have sent these pills off weeks ago, we would have results back. Id believe a mass spec test over labmax, any day of the week.

It doesn't matter the outcome of this situation, you will never be respected here by anyone. But wait we are meso clowns. Then why are you here to stay? I guess it doesn't matter. Anything you ever say here no one will care. You can continue to knock people's character, call people child molesters, and act tough but NO ONE GIVES A FUCK!

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

It doesn't matter the outcome of this situation, you will never be respected here by anyone. But wait we are meso clowns. Then why are you here to stay? I guess it doesn't matter. Anything you ever say here no one will care. You can continue to knock people's character, call people child molesters, and act tough but NO ONE GIVES A FUCK!

You think I give a fuck about someone named cbs or pmac, and they dont respect me here? LMFAO! Get real dude..
As for knocking someones character, what about mine? Fucking cbs, dr jim, and a few others calling me a scammer, etc. Wheres your proof? Post it! If not, get the fuck off my back, bitch!

 

[Mr.Bravo]

Hey Italian muscle I don't appreciate you shooting your fuckin mouth off about saying Brut is a child's molester now ether show us the evidence or say you were just being stupid.

So are you full of shit IM.

 

[regular]

I just want to quickly address a couple of the points you raised and it should be noted that none of my comments are directed at AB per se, as I have no experience with that forum.

Ok, thanks for straightening that out.

The "climate of fear" that I mentioned can be seen by looking at how Johnny and Brutus' complaints have been received. The personal attacks have been vicious and will certainly result in others being reluctant to come forward - both now and in the future. Especially among newer members.

IM and Brutus don't like each other and seem to call each other out about everything. I don't think K has anything to do with their conflict.

You say neither IM or GM represent K. That might be true in an official sense, however their responses to this issue have gone way beyond what any reasonable person would expect from concerned members of the community who are just trying to help. Both IM and GM reacted as though these complaints were a attack on them personally and responded by going after Brutus and Johnny's credibility. They've also devoted an extraordinary amount of time to this, going far beyond what is reasonable for a supposedly detached third-party. So while IM and GM might not be reps in an official capacity, their posts on several forums should leave no doubt that they have a vested interest in this source. I fully understand you are friends with these two but if you ignore your emotional involvement and view their behavior objectively, I'm confident you'll come to the same conclusion as practically everyone on Meso.

As far as I know they don't work for K in any capacity or have any vested interest in his operation. Like I said above, IM and Brutus don't like each other and have been antagonizing each other for a long time.

I have a lot of friends in this community because know how to get along with people and I've helped many people. My opinion isn't clouded by my relationship with them.

You stated that VIP's are "the most experienced, knowledgeable, and cut throat source critics."

Experienced? Perhaps with board history and knowing the online source business.

Knowledgeable? I think it's probably fair to say that VIP's are knowledgeable about forums and with the online source business but that's it. Other than that, it's a mistake to believe a VIP is knowledgeable about anything just because they are a VIP. For proof, one need look no further than the rampant bro science that permeates "top heavy" forums like TID.

It's also a mistake to believe VIP's are automatically trustworthy because they are VIP's. Again, for proof one need look no further that the fact that several ProMuscle mods hold VIP status on boards that don't protect scammers.

Cut throat source critics? Certainly not in this case with IM and GK. Instead, they have been cut throat customer critics.

Yes, as it pertains to sources, VIPs are the most experienced, knowledgeable, and cut throat. At least that is the case in the places where I have been a VIP. I didn't claim that all VIPs from all boards are trustworthy. K has a good reputation, so the VIPs who know him may be skeptical of four different products being poor. I've never seen someone make a complaint like that before.

Finally, a few words about your comment that "evidence" should be treated as a claim." I disagree with that statement. Evidence is used to support or refute the claim but it is never the claim itself. Evidence is evidence. Nothing more, nothing less. It can be strong or it can be weak but it is still evidence that can be weighed to help determine the truth.

Testing evidence is so easily manipulated it has the same weight as a claim and gets often gets treated as a claim. If a source posts testing data it's treated as a claim and assumed to be fraudulent. The same will likely happen if a client posts testing data, especially from an unverifiable source.

I feel the need to speak up- Regular is far more than an admin from ab. He has helped many people here over the years and has my full trust and respect regardless of his Current affiliations.

Regular- ddog and pmac are good members here and fierce loyalty is part of our creed... please respect it as the loyalty it is rather than the attack it might appear to be.

I'll keep that in mind. I don't make the rounds as often as I'd like to. This is the most I've posted in a long time.

I'm fairly new and know what I see. And from the looks of it the matter is in the process of getting resolved if regular is here. So if Brutus and jb would have went to a admin from another board it would have been handled better. Personally I think they handled it exactly how it should of been. Here where it should be. If I was beat out of x amount of money I'd be quite angry also. My loyalty lies here at meso and only meso. Not one word that those 2 clowns said will ever change that, for myself and I'm sure dr most other loyal members here.

The process on a non-scammer board is to get with the vendor and if you can't work it out with them, contact the staff. I don't think anyone is getting beat out of anything. I don't think K even knows about what's going on in this thread.

@regular, I can see why you have the respect of many, including JB and Brutus. I appreciate your willingness to see the other side of things and the respect you show to "our" vets here at Meso.

I try to treat everyone with respect and do what's right. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt unless I have a reason not to. Ben and I are friends. I get a kick out of speaking with Millard because he's a sharp guy. I'm getting to know Brutus, JB, and CBS. I've helped some of the established guys here.

The disconnect is that JB and Brutus are two of the most respected guys here and have done a lot for the Meso community. Therefore, it's not even a question for us that their intentions are good. I can't speak for them, but the intention was never to ruin K or even try to drag him through the mud. At Meso, our philosophy is full disclosure no matter who or what. I'll mirror what others have said and reaffirm that had you come in from the beginning, this situation would have been WAY more low key and resolved by now.

I had no idea any of this was going on. Brutus and JB could have contacted me at any time. They know who I am. I have no idea if K knows what's going on in this thread. I'm not K's rep or advocate. I mod the board he is on and I stop by from time to time to check my inbox. Usually Ben will come get me for help if it's needed here.

Their claims could be accurate. I don't have any evidence to suggest they are lying, but this is the first complaint like this I've seen where four products are said to be poor from K. No one else has filed a complaint like that.

Gman and IM feel K has a good reputation and I don't think they have seen a complaint like this until now either. I read very little of what was said back a forth between everyone. I went back to the source of what they were arguing about in this thread.

Regardless, it looks like you are going to make the connection with K and get to the bottom of things. THAT we can all appreciate and respect.

Sure, anyone could have came and got me about this at any time. Myo is a member of the mod team at AB too. I saw him ask Brutus to come over to AB. I'm not sure if that happened or not.

Regular this is how it should have been from the outset. When someone changes your handle to cocksucker there is no chance problems will e resolved.

I had no idea any of this was going on. You mean they were calling each other names? That's been going on for a while across a few boards.

IM doesn't speak for K as far as I know. I don't speak for him either. I mod a board he's on.

You think I give a fuck about someone named cbs or pmac, and they dont respect me here? LMFAO! Get real dude..

As for knocking someones character, what about mine? Fucking cbs, dr jim, and a few others calling me a scammer, etc. Wheres your proof? Post it! If not, get the fuck off my back, bitch!

Who do they feel you scammed?

Seems like everyone is just saying whatever is going to piss the other off the most and this is devolving into a board war.

 

[Mr.Bravo]

Brutus and IM were getting along fine in the granbolic thread. I don't know about other boards as this is my home and I need a reference to join ab. But I will never ask anybody to vouch for me as I believe my character will eventually speak for it self.
Regards Mr.Bravo

 

[regular]

Brutus and IM were getting along fine in the granbolic thread. I don't know about other boards as this is my home and I need a reference to join ab. But I will never ask anybody to vouch for me as I believe my character will eventually speak for it self.
Regards Mr.Bravo

As far as I know we do not require a referrer. I checked the profile of the most recent person to join and he does not have a referrer.

 

[Mr.Bravo]

So I don't need to put anybody and its an uncensored board like me so?

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Brutus and IM were getting along fine in the granbolic thread. I don't know about other boards as this is my home and I need a reference to join ab. But I will never ask anybody to vouch for me as I believe my character will eventually speak for it self.
Regards Mr.Bravo

Yeah, we were getting along fine, and when I exposed the counterfeit normas granabolic was selling, I was getting padded on the back for it. Then since I dont post in the thread for almost a month, all of a sudden, I am a sellout or now I am working or being a rep for granabolic. How many hours, days, weeks etc. do you want me to keep beating a dead horse? My job was done. If you want to continue using granabolic, thats on you, but dont be crying wolf when you get burned, after you been warned.
This uncensored forum is filled with hyprocrites. I deal with the same bullshit and backstabbers at work all the time. They make you believe they are your friends, and talk shit about you behind your back.
When all said and done, this thread will be forgotten about and life will go on, and guess what? Ill still be here like a herpe that wont go away..

 

[regular]

So I don't need to put anybody and its an uncensored board like me so?

The last guy who joined, joined about two hours ago and he didn't need a referrer.

Someone sent me a PM and said he needed a referrer though.

As to being uncensored, if someone scams someone they will get removed from the board at minimum. The staff is pretty tolerant otherwise though. It's really difficult to get banned from AB. Supplier feedback isn't removed or tampered with.