mmmiron
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This thread never fails when I need a good laugh.
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I guess k will never address this issue publicly? Business as usual. So all this for nothing.
It was addressed publicly, not here. He made posts at AB & Outlaw, asking anyone who has had issues to please come forward. Not one single person came forward except for brutus/johnnyballz here. Both buddies sticking to their guns. Almost one month, and still no complaints anywhere but here. Dont you guys find that strange/odd??
This isnt brutus' first time complaining about a source. Seems to be an ongoing thing with him. He is ruining is credibility everywhere..
A certain level of stupidity and juvenility is expected in an uncensored forum. But physical threats and invitations of physical violence against members is unacceptable. The inability to adequately or effectively communicate or defend a position via the written word is no excuse. The devolution of the this thread is an embarrassment to MESO and (should also be) to its offending participants.
A certain level of stupidity and juvenility is expected in an uncensored forum. But physical threats and invitations of physical violence against members is unacceptable. The inability to adequately or effectively communicate or defend a position via the written word is no excuse. The devolution of the this thread is an embarrassment to MESO and (should also be) to its offending participants.
I guess k will never address this issue publicly? Business as usual. So all this for nothing.
The free speech model you have here creates interest but as as you have pointed out, the door can swing too far in the wrong direction. It is unfortunate that guys are using the freedom they have to abuse each other.
As I've said several times, K isn't active at Meso because he was unable to update his list here, so he abandoned this thread before Brutus and JB posted their complaint here. If you want to speak to K, go over to AB and post in a thread that is relevant, where K is active. The only reason any progress has been made by posting in this thread, is that I logged in here to check my PMs and randomly clicked on this thread.
I spoke with K on Friday. He responded to JB and Brutus' complaint by asking people to come forward who had issues with the products they ordered. I haven't received a single complaint from anyone else. According to K, he purchased some labmax test kits, tested the raws, and the raws passed. He also submitted some finished products for analytical testing and is waiting for the results to come back. He told me he was going to email JB and Brutus and process a refund for them. He also said JB and Brutus sent him an email with attachments and that email was not opened or responded to for security reasons. K would have paid for the testing Burutus and JB were planning to do if they had handled themselves differently. He encouraged them to test the products themselves.
So both sides are having further tests done. When everything thing is in we may have the truth or round 2 over who's tests are better.
Glad to see Millard post. This is proving nothing.
As I've said several times, K isn't active at Meso because he was unable to update his list here, so he abandoned this thread before Brutus and JB posted their complaint here. If you want to speak to K, go over to AB and post in a thread that is relevant, where K is active. The only reason any progress has been made by posting in this thread, is that I logged in here to check my PMs and randomly clicked on this thread.
I will look into this, but there's no pictures of our tablets in the labmax pics.?
Sold many thousands of these with no issues. My feedback goes back several years.
I will take this up on the forums I source on, look into it and address it, if need be.
Understand that quality to me is very important.
Regards,
K.
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I spoke with K on Friday. He responded to JB and Brutus' complaint by asking people to come forward who had issues with the products they ordered. I haven't received a single complaint from anyone else. According to K, he purchased some labmax test kits, tested the raws, and the raws passed. He also submitted some finished products for analytical testing and is waiting for the results to come back. He told me he was going to email JB and Brutus and process a refund for them. He also said JB and Brutus sent him an email with attachments and that email was not opened or responded to for security reasons. K would have paid for the testing Burutus and JB were planning to do if they had handled themselves differently. He encouraged them to test the products themselves.
I cant wait for these results. If K has already said his raws passed with labmax, why would he even consider reimbursing 2 reverse scammers?
Sending attachments to a source is a big no no. That just shows the stupidity of brutus.. who knows what could have been in there. Maybe a virus?
Brutus did post in K's thread on 8/3 on AB.. K was also aware of this thread here on Meso as HE posted here on 8/3..
And that's not true^^ he had issues with labmax in the past.. All of which went away by him sending in a var tab himself to ecstasy data..
I still fail to see what we did wrong, all we did was post our labmax results and personal experience with the tabs on our home board.. The email I sent K had an attachment with the labmax pics.. He could've simply emailed me back or PMed me saying he didn't feel comfortable opening an email with an attachment instead of disregarding it for over 3 weeks now..
I will not take anything from K at this point on principle alone.. That shoots down your reverse scam theory for probably the 12th time in the past 3 weeks..
The bottom line is this thread has grown over 100 pages in 23 days because italian muscle and graniteman have been coming over here late at night stirring things up.. All we did was give a review in the underground section which by my understanding is what this sub forum is for.. Had no clue so many people would get this butt hurt about it.. It's a total shame..
We did exactly what the members of this forum would expect us to do and I will not apologize for that.. I will apologize to Millard, bickel, and all the other members that are as sick of all this bullshit as I am.. I apologize for egging on the 2 numbskulls with some of my replies in this thread over the past several weeks.. Thanks to everyone here that knows me and stuck up for me in this thread, I appreciate it..
At this point I have nothing else to say and I promise to try and stay out of this thread until we have mass spec done.. At which point this bullshit will unfortunately start all over again..
Why not send in a tab to ecstasydata.org? Might as well get another opinion, correct? You guys are putting to much faith in the labmax test. You guys are too scared to send one in, because you fear the results will come out in ALP favor. So that would mean, the person doing the labmax doesnt know what the fuck he is doing, he is colorblind, or there was something wrong with the testing vials. Could be possible, correct?
As for how you and brutus handled it, you guys never even went to ALP, you immediately came here and bashed him and his products. Why not goto his home board or Outlaw and voice your opinion? No one is going to delete your posts, thats not how AB board is run. They have great guys running that place. You should have went to him first, and asked what can be done, or can we test this stuff, or whatever, then come here and post. Thats just proper forum procedure. Its been over a month, and you guys are the only 2 calling 5 of his orals bunk. You dont find that odd? If there was a legitimate concern, there would be more members coming forward. There isnt..
You guys were accusing a source that has been around for over a decade, with just about a flawless record, of putting out bad stuff. SO yeah, people take offense. And Ive used his orals, Im using his anavar now, along with a female friend of mind. They are legit, trust me. And Ill give him two thumbs up for his viagra too. Big boners everytime..
All I wanted was there to be more proof posted. Not just a labmax test. Makes no sense to put your faith in one thing, and not have something else to back up your claim. I have a labmax kit. Had it before anyone else here had one. To be honest, the colors are very hard to distinguish in some products, thats one reason I didnt want to rely solely on this as a 100% fail proof test. Is it useful? Yes. Is it accurate? I think with some products it is, but not all of them. Thats why I suggested ecstasydata.org. Even though we dont know the mg, we still would know the compound thats suppose to be in it.So where has THIS Italian Muscle been for the last 3 or 4 weeks? Your message, and your opposition to Brut's and Johnny's findings, would have been accepted by the members here had you just been this mature about it from the beginning.
Not to say that everyone or anyone would have agreed with you, but they would have respected your point of view.
As for how you and brutus handled it, you guys never even went to ALP, you immediately came here and bashed him and his products. Why not goto his home board or Outlaw and voice your opinion?
I just got $600 worth of bunk orals from him. Cialis, anadrol, var all bunk and the nolva was dbol. Test everythong... so much for good to go. Tests all just came back and I will be notifying him shortly- we shall see how the service is following a disservice
You should have went to him first, and asked what can be done, or can we test this stuff, or whatever, then come here and post.
You guys were accusing a source that has been around for over a decade, with just about a flawless record, of putting out bad stuff. SO yeah, people take offense.
And Ive used his orals, Im using his anavar now, along with a female friend of mind. They are legit, trust me. And Ill give him two thumbs up for his viagra too. Big boners everytime..