johnnyBALLZ
Well-known Member
Believe it or not fellas, IM is a good guy.
I thought so too at one point..
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Believe it or not fellas, IM is a good guy.
I think he means well. I feel he sticks up for srcs to much, in my estimation. We are all the same as long as you aren't a srcs or rep so why give them the benifit over members in good standing, it just makes you look bad.Believe it or not fellas, IM is a good guy.
Believe it or not fellas, IM is a good guy.
It seems that you feel my goal is maximize feedback suppression when a product is in question, which is not my intent.
Meso's commitment to protecting the consumer voice, even when it is abusive, misleading, blatantly untrue, and antagonistic is apparently steadfast.
The beauty of an uncensored forum is that ALL sides have an opportunity to express their positions. Again, you are completely wrong to suggest that MESO generally supports the expression of one voice - a consumer voice - and gives special treatment to one voice over another voice. That is indeed what you are saying when you say that MESO is generally anti-abuse on the consumer side with the clear implication that MESO is pro-abuse on the vendor side.Meso is generally anti-abuse on the client side and begins with the expectation that all sources are abusive to start with. I am anti-abuse on either side, so my expectations are not in line with the general consumer voice here.
To be clear, this is not a condemnation of your board or the model you've created. You have simply given people the freedom to be as offensive as they want to, which some are exercising and doing an excellent job sealing their fates on the boards with.
Do I think name calling like a bunch of cracked out third graders is productive. Hell no it's not and I'm truly sick of it. I guess we can't have out cake and eat it too! I'm just glad we get cake.
mands
I agree as well. The fact that all sides are represented is a good thing. Those who resort to personal attacks, insults and "act like screaming idiots" only undermine the credibility of their positions. An unfortunate side effect of an uncensored forum is that people are permitted to behave in such fashion.@Millard Baker I do agree @regular that actions here do effect what the community thinks and how it reacts.
Hey can we act like screaming idiots as we do on here in real life. Turnaround and go anywhere we want and be accepted. There's always consequences for our actions whether we like it or not.
mands
@Millard Baker I do agree @regular that actions here do effect what the community thinks and how it reacts.
Hey can we act like screaming idiots as we do on here in real life. Turnaround and go anywhere we want and be accepted. There's always consequences for our actions whether we like it or not.
The problem with this CBS is IM has been around as long as me and GM has been a big contributor to the community before they started this craziness over here. They were already established of sorts if you can say that. I mean look at all the shit BB used to get away with saying. Just the nature of the beast.I don't know but it seems to be working for IM and Granite.
It doesn't really matter what your "intent" is. Encouraging consumers to take complaints directly to vendor as opposed to publicly posting the complaint on a high-traffic forum has the practical effect of suppressing the complaint from the community at large.
I agree. I think it is most effective to alert the vendor AND alert the community. I like to see all sides represented. And keep the community thread updated with new information as it becomes available.Would it not make more sense to first contact the vendor to get his side of the story before making accusations and posting the complaint. In other words, lets get the facts right before posting the accusation. Then once you have contacted the vendor you can post your complaint and his response. I also don't mind posting the facts of the complaint before notifying the vendor, but to draw conclusion and make accusations without doing your due dilligence to make sure they stand up first is a disservice. In other words, sure post the labmax tests and their pictures while at the same time contacting K. But no need to make accusations, call someone a scammer, or start casting judgement until you have all the facts.
Would I ever act like a child and tell another member I would skull fuck his mother or some weird shit... No I wouldn't but if I did I probably wouldn't catch much shit for it from other boards or VETS.
Come on Mands- skull fucking is so 1999... this is the new millennium! We make new holes in exciting places.The problem with this CBS is IM has been around as long as me and GM has been a big contributor to the community before they started this craziness over here. They were already established of sorts if you can say that. I mean look at all the shit BB used to get away with saying. Just the nature of the beast.
Would I ever act like a child and tell another member I would skull fuck his mother or some weird shit... No I wouldn't but if I did I probably wouldn't catch much shit for it from other boards or VETS.
mands
And VIP's... don't forget those damn VIP's.
And therein lies the problem with titles. It creates a two-tiered system where *some* members are *more* equal than others; i.e. they're given a pass when they don't deserve it because they're in "the club." If it's wrong for a new member to be belligerent, then it's JUST as wrong for Vets and VIP's. Maybe worse because they should know better.
Come on Mands- skull fucking is so 1999... this is the new millennium! We make new holes in exciting places.
I just have to interject that the trifecta of insults to me is to rip me off for money, call me a liar and call me a child molester. If someone did those things to me I would beat them with a crowbar until the stress fractures in my hands rendered me unable to grip said crowbar. In the absence of physical confrontation I resort to heinous verbal assaults.
Ben and I used to electronically high five over who could lay verbal waste to dissenters with more authority. I certainly concede that I am nobody and ben is ben- but I am always me and if anyone knew me in real life they would know I cross that line of decorum into degraded filth with authority. Often. Happy or mad. I love to shock- I love to make people uncomfortable. Mostly I just like to make people laugh at things they probably shouldn't laugh at.
The written word is so easily misinterpreted... pity becaise I am real fucking funny. Unless of course you hit me with the aforementioned trifecta.
Mands with all due respect, I believe IM and GM couldnt hold BB jockstrap so in my mind I dont get the comparison. Im and GM stand up for a source were BB would make the src pay the piper. But I am still a newb.The problem with this CBS is IM has been around as long as me and GM has been a big contributor to the community before they started this craziness over here. They were already established of sorts if you can say that. I mean look at all the shit BB used to get away with saying. Just the nature of the beast.
Would I ever act like a child and tell another member I would skull fuck his mother or some weird shit... No I wouldn't but if I did I probably wouldn't catch much shit for it from other boards or VETS.
mands
I was referring to how BB would berate someone to very explicit extent. I think I was just comparing how IM and Brutus try and get there message across. They have similar styles. That's all I was comparing. And why they don't look as bad.Mands with all due respect, I believe IM and GM couldnt hold BB jockstrap so in my mind I dont get the comparison. Im and GM stand up for a source were BB would make the src pay the piper. But I am still a newb.