Well, I'm not the only guy trying his Halo out. Another guy on OLM is. And the fella isn't a newbie. I can just report my results. I'm considering pics of my physique change.
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Well, I'm not the only guy trying his Halo out. Another guy on OLM is. And the fella isn't a newbie. I can just report my results. I'm considering pics of my physique change.
thanks spectre
What other compounds will you be using with the halo? Thanks
What other compounds will you be using with the halo? Thanks
Nothing. Just straight Halotestin.
BR1217
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Yes. I cant remember the brand of Halo I used. It came in blister packs though. I picked some up with some Syntex Anadrol and Metanabol. All three of those compounds were top shelf. One of my very first experiments with AAS.
I used this as well -
BR1217
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Nice! How nice was it to have pharmaceutical orals available, relatively cheap too!I used this as well -
From Thailand in 2000, lol.
theexperiment
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I would get those from Juarez all day long back years and years ago.
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theexperiment
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Mexi used to stock them up until here recently. Now they have been discontinued and are hard to find.
BR1217
New Member
That is them. Nice work!Probably was the Stenox brand.
enjoy_tren
New Member
The mass spec on the cialis came back good.
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=3255
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=3255
Yea, ecstasydata pretty much sucks. We know there is cialis in it, but not what %. About the same thing a labmax would have told us. Then again, it's cialis, so not something i even care about. I am still waiting on real data on the tabs that were called into question.
regular
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The “honest review” you're referring to made the claim that you need “gyno surgery” as a result of the products you purchased, which you later retracted because K's products did not cause you to need gyno surgery.
When I PMed, you guys said you wanted a refund. I passed that along because you said you were being ignored. The attachments included in the email was the source of the original communication problem, beyond the refusal to go to an active feedback thread where you guys can get the help you need. If you change your mind again and decide you want a refund, let me know.
It may take a while to hear back. It takes about a week when I PM too. I'm not really sure what you want to discuss since you're now refusing the refund.
Please quote the comment that I made that you feel was snide and unfair. I've tried to treat you fairly and with respect.
I acknowledged that you may be correct about the products being “bunk” but I don't have any other feedback from anyone else suggesting the same thing. You guys are alone, which doesn't make sense because if five products were poor, other guys would be leaving negative feedback too. If you want a recent example of what poor product feedback looks like, see DFL's feedback thread. DFL had a poor batch of test, there were complaints from several people that don't know each other, he dumped it, and sent reships.
I don't see why you couldn't get a refund and use the refund to finance the tests you want to do, as we discussed. K encouraged you guys to test the products, as he said in his feedback thread at AB, if there is a problem, it's not intentional. Brutus came over to AB and said that he would be banned if he left poor feedback AB, essentially calling my teammates and I scammer protectors. He also mentioned something about Mugzy calling K a scammer, which I'm looking into. K told me he would have refunded you guys and would have also paid for the products to be tested if you guys had been polite. I believe K also told you guys he was looking into the way the orals were blended to see if there may be an issue there, which is why he's sending in two finished products for mass specs. As I've said several times, IM and Gman don't represent K, neither do I, so if you want a refund and he's offering it, take it, do your tests, and post honest results.
Agreed, we do not share the same perspective on this issue.
It seems that you feel my goal is maximize feedback suppression when a product is in question, which is not my intent. When a product is in question, the general policy in the community is to contact the vendor and give them an opportunity to address the problem because only the vendor can issue a refund, the goal in my view being efficiency. If there is a problem that can't get worked out, management will intervene. Brutus and JB were encouraged to leave feedback at AB by Myo and myself. Nothing has been suppressed by anyone.
The point I was making is that if their goal was to have their complaint addressed, instead of making a stink, they are going about accomplishing that goal in an ineffective manner because no one who can address their complaint and the refund they were originally seeking is active here. If they want to leave poor feedback here or at AB, so be it, but then go on and get the problem resolved. Brutus was being responded to in the feedback thread at AB, he left AB, came over here, where he complained that his order was being “swept under the rug.”
Brutus came out guns blazing on Meso claiming that essentially their whole order was bunk (a complaint which is suspicious because no one else has reported problems with the products in question) and that K's products caused JB to need “gyno surgery,” which was later retracted by JB because it's apparently not true that K's products caused JB to need gyno surgery.
As to Brutus being subjected to “abuse, hostility and personal attacks” because he is attempting to “protect the community” below is Brutus' first post in the ALP feedback thread at AB. This is the way Brutus treats people “in this thread and various other forums around the internet”:
brutus79;269798 said:
Brutus stated that my fellow staff members and I would ban him for leaving negative feedback and is essentially calling my teammates and I scammer protectors, which is not true. Brutus also claims that Mugzy told him that K is a scammer. I will certainly accept Brutus' challenge to verify that statement with Mugzy. The “feedback” Brutus posted has little to do with discussing the quality of the products he purchased and more to do with dishing out “abuse, hostility and personal attacks” directed at my myself, fellow staff members, and K. Despite Brutus being rude right out of the gate, he was handled professionally by AB's staff and K.
As I've said numerous times throughout this thread, I've never seen anything to suggest IM and gman work for K. They are active on the boards and post their opinions just like anyone else. They don't represent K's interests, their comments are their own. The constant portrayal of both of them covertly working for K is nothing but reaching. In the feedback thread at AB, K responded by saying that if there was a problem with the order Brutus complained about, it wasn't intentional and asked Brutus and IM to stop antagonizing each other. IM and Brutus' personal conflict has nothing to do with K and as far as I know, began before Brutus had a complaint about K's products.
As to K's reputation being harmed, according to K, he addressed their product complaints by testing the raws themselves with a labmax and sent two finished products off for mass specs. K also offered Brutus and JB a refund. If Brutus and JB had been polite he would have not only refunded them but paid for the testing they wanted to do himself. K treated Brutus and JB with respect despite the misleading and antagonistic “feedback” that was posted by Brutus. K's communication was slower than the clients liked, beyond that I don't see what more anyone can expect of the guy. K never abused anyone that I can see.
Meso's commitment to protecting the consumer voice, even when it is abusive, misleading, blatantly untrue, and antagonistic is apparently steadfast. Due to the open nature of the steroid underground and the parade of unvetted sources that participate here, Meso is generally anti-abuse on the client side and begins with the expectation that all sources are abusive to start with. I am anti-abuse on either side, so my expectations are not in line with the general consumer voice here.
The almost non-existent moderation here has created a place where people can be extremely abusive to each other all the time. There is a Meso vs every other board mentality that is alive among some of the frequent participants here. I pretty much only come over here to run off people that are scamming when my help is requested. Seeing as how I am a scammer protector who deletes feedback and bans people for leaving poor feedback, perhaps I should ignore future requests to donate my time and spend money out of my own pocket tracking down people who scam here-a task and expense which gets me nothing in return. I've seen mikestrong and basskiller get trashed here too. I've seen the iron den get called out. Some of the guys who frequently post here are burning their bridges. If the goal is complete isolation from the rest of the community by way of constant abuse, by all means, the offending parties should proceed.
To be clear, this is not a condemnation of your board or the model you've created. You have simply given people the freedom to be as offensive as they want to, which some are exercising and doing an excellent job sealing their fates on the boards with.
No, you guys don't understand. No one is trying to suppress your negative feedback or hide anything. This the sum of your complaints and evidence:
“I purchased cialias, dbol, drol, nolva, and var. The drol did not give me the sensation I'm use to when taking drol. The nolva I took did not inflate my balls. The var didn't give me any pumps. A guy I know from the boards tested the drol, nolva, and var. The guy I know from the boards says those products failed a lamax test. I feel the cialis was bunk because it did not give me an erection. I feel the dbol is bunk because of the way it looks under a black light.”
Brutus claimed that five of the products you guys purchased were bunk, which is fine. He then went on to say that you need gyno surgery as a result of the products you purchased, which you admitted is not true. Then he said that K is a scammer because Mugzy told him so, which is something I'll be looking into. Then he said that he would be banned by me for leaving negative feedback and basically called me a scammer protector, which is not true. Then he said that K was ignoring you guys when K was in fact running some QC tests in response to your complaint and didn't respond to an email with attachments. You guys should know not to email attachments, that's not ok.
The blatantly false antagonistic comments that benefit no one are the problem, not the product feedback. The complaint in and of itself is suspicious because it involves several products and there are no other complaints about the products in question. The product is either good or it isn't, either way, you were dissatisfied with your order, given the benefit of the doubt, and offered a refund. If you don't want the refund, that is your choice. No one got ripped off or scammed.
You would have been better off getting your complaint handled without Brutus.
This thread will serve as an example of a completely unprofessional feedback thread filled with abuse that several people who do not like each other unnecessarily trashed.
Again, as far as I know, IM and Gman don't work for K. IM and Brutus didn't like each other before Brutus' complaint with K started. The decision you guys made to antagonize each other has nothing to do with K.
K never abused anyone. He specifically asked Brutus and IM to stop antagonizing each other at AB. K addressed the product complaints by performing his own QC tests and offered JB and Brutus a refund despite the fact that there are no other product complaints coming in for the same products. K encouraged JB and Brutus to run the tests they are planning to conduct and would have paid for them himself and also issued a refund if Brutus and JB were polite and handled themselves professionally.
Estacydata is the most credible test the community as access to at this time.
Also, the original claim was that it was bunk and contained no active ingredient.
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tipdog
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Where is the percentage?
johnnyBALLZ
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I NEVER said that and didn't retract anything!! Show me the post.. Brutus said his friend's PCT ended in gyno surgery which is true but the surgery was already planned.. I'm sure he was pissed at the time, I thought that was misleading and I clarified by saying I already had gyno and K's nolva did not help keep it down before surgery and it got a little worse on "40mg/day"..
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johnnyBALLZ
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There isn't a percentage.. All ecstasy data can confirm is a small percentage of the compound is present.. K thinks that him sending in a cialis tab will silent everyone like it did when his var failed labmax while ago..
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johnnyBALLZ
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As for snide comments, there are at least a half dozen in your last post, regular.. To be clear, since you also said this multiple times, K never offered a refund and didn't contact either of us except to tell brutus we need to email him.. You told us K would be in contact and he never did.. Why are you fabricating the story and taking this tone?
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