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Karius - ALP / BAL Lists -

At some points in the past your raw suppliers have hosed you? That is the excuse? Are we as end users supposed to give a shit about an excuse like that? I honestly don't care any more about the excuses. A supplier that sends out shit gear, whether it is underdosed, non-existent, or something it isn't supposed to be needs to be run the fuck off. I am not your fucking beta tester. You aren't paying me to test and i would not be a guinea pig in the roulette game you are playing with raws anyway.

Here is an idea, test your own shit and raise prices accordingly if necessary. Quit being lazy fucks. Police your gear. I can't be the only guy tired of this shit.Suppliers are making a good amount of profit, but can't be bothered to test their own shit? Yea, that is a great business model i suppose as long as you can get away with it....at least until you get a few blood tests back that link to 50% purity gear or worse then a few more tests backing it up.

This shit needs to stop. the guys that have been scamming for more than a month need to disappear. Quit ordering from them when you check the lab section and see bad results from more than one guy. Do the math in your own head gang. We have labmax, Jim''s testing, bloodwork, and actual data from muscleheads on their gains or lack of on said gear. Take it all in, add it up and decide from there if you can trust these guys. Even a pile of circumstantial data should be enough to cause caution. Back it up with a few solid negative test results and that should be all you need to know.
 
devildog93 said:
At some points in the past your raw suppliers have hosed you? That is the excuse? Are we as end users supposed to give a shit about an excuse like that? I honestly don't care any more about the excuses. A supplier that sends out shit gear, whether it is underdosed, non-existent, or something it isn't supposed to be needs to be run the fuck off. I am not your fucking beta tester. You aren't paying me to test and i would not be a guinea pig in the roulette game you are playing with raws anyway.

Here is an idea, test your own shit and raise prices accordingly if necessary. Quit being lazy fucks. Police your gear. I can't be the only guy tired of this shit.Suppliers are making a good amount of profit, but can't be bothered to test their own shit? Yea, that is a great business model i suppose as long as you can get away with it....at least until you get a few blood tests back that link to 50% purity gear or worse then a few more tests backing it up.

This shit needs to stop. the guys that have been scamming for more than a month need to disappear. Quit ordering from them when you check the lab section and see bad results from more than one guy. Do the math in your own head gang. We have labmax, Jim''s testing, bloodwork, and actual data from muscleheads on their gains or lack of on said gear. Take it all in, add it up and decide from there if you can trust these guys. Even a pile of circumstantial data should be enough to cause caution. Back it up with a few solid negative test results and that should be all you need to know.
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couldn't be said better....
 
Just in case people missed karius admitting the anadrol was fake before the test comes out-



KariusM said:
Too many would complain about our VAR if this was the case.

The Drol I did look into when I returned and I actually suspended the sales of said item.
I had it tested but unable to have the data read...
New batch of Drol was bought.

Let me suggest - why not get a individual who both myself and you are happy to work with to accept certain ALP products, get them tested. That way I would be happier about this situation.

Trust me , if there's a problem I look into it. Not about money.
K.

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I thought nobody was complaining about any of the products? Now the anadrol was bunk? If nobody was complaining how did you find out?

Sooooo- you need samples of the var we have even though you test your raws? Even though you are so sure there is no problem you just want to be sure?

I was told the anadrol didn't work because of my diet.

I was told I was a reverse scammer... cost me $500 to be a reverse scammer.

I was called a child molester.

I was told I was lying.

Now you are admitting the product was fake before the tests come out. No wonder everyone wants to "keep it in pm" you shady, shady bunch of fucks.
 
Yeah dudes out of order, @KariusM what do you hope to accomplish by trying to refund the brothers you burned now?
Your credibility is shot.
REMEMBER MESO WE DONT ACCEPT FREE SAMPLES HERE
Sorry for screaming brothers.
 
Child molester? I've no idea what your on about.


These tests are flawed, if you wanted any legitimacy you need to have them tested by a non- biased independent. Which I am up for.

...I mean the same product is tested in May and September at Ecstasydata (http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=3158) - they pass, showing Oxandrolone as the active.
Then these results show negative expected active, but traces of Tren on the same batch??
Theres obviously some issues with legitimacy here by a few.

Yes, Drol was removed from my list only b/cos I couldnt have the MS/GC data read. Until the time I can, I ordered new raw. This is how I care for my customers - if a problem comes up, we rectify.


Regard,
K.

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KariusM said:
Child molester? I've no idea what your on about.


These tests are flawed, if you wanted any legitimacy you need to have them tested by a non- biased independent. Which I am up for.

...I mean the same product is tested in May and September at Ecstasydata (http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=3158) - they pass, showing Oxandrolone as the active.
Then these results show negative expected active, but traces of Tren on the same batch??
Theres obviously some issues with legitimacy here by a few.

Yes, Drol was removed from my list only b/cos I couldnt have the MS/GC data read. Until the time I can, I ordered new raw. This is how I care for my customers - if a problem comes up, we rectify.


Regard,
K.

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K what would be an non-biased independent test lab that you would recommend? Well, if you have one that you would recommend... Guess what? It's not a non-biased test lab.

I don't see what's wrong with a major University testing products. Have you seen the reports or analysis? Most professional tests I've ever seen.

I would like to add your rep over the years has been great. We all fuck up and every UGL gets a bad batch obviously. It's how you handle it that dictates longevity in this game as you fully know and understand.

mands
 
KariusM said:
Child molester? I've no idea what your on about.
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Maybe you should read the thread you started here, if you can be bothered that is..


KariusM said:
These tests are flawed, if you wanted any legitimacy you need to have them tested by a non- biased independent. Which I am up for.

...I mean the same product is tested in May and September at Ecstasydata (http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=3158) - they pass, showing Oxandrolone as the active.
Then these results show negative expected active, but traces of Tren on the same batch??
Theres obviously some issues with legitimacy here by a few.

Yes, Drol was removed from my list only b/cos I couldnt have the MS/GC data read. Until the time I can, I ordered new raw. This is how I care for my customers - if a problem comes up, we rectify.


Regard,
K.

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Once again, your ecstasy data tests have nothing to do with what I received..

You didn't rectify my problem or even try!!

Stop posting if you're just going to keep making a statement at 10am each morning.. In typical fashion, you haven't responded to any posts members have directed at you.. It's beyond rude..
 
KariusM said:
Child molester? I've no idea what your on about.
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Ask the head of your customer service department, ItalianMuscle. You know ItalianMuscle. He came to do your dirty work and left quite an impression on Meso.

You really should rethink your decision to allow ItalianMuscle to speak on your behalf because he did more harm to your reputation than a few bunk products ever could.

KariusM said:
These tests are flawed, if you wanted any legitimacy you need to have them tested by a non- biased independent. Which I am up for.
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These tests WERE done by a non-biased, independant, credible, licensed analytical lab lab. The only thing flawed was the product Johnny and Brutus received.

KariusM said:
...I mean the same product is tested in May and September at Ecstasydata (http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=3158) - they pass, showing Oxandrolone as the active.
Then these results show negative expected active, but traces of tren on the same batch??
Theres obviously some issues with legitimacy here by a few.
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Indeed. Your Anavar was NOT legitimate. I'm glad we finally agree.

KariusM said:
Yes, Drol was removed from my list only b/cos I couldnt have the MS/GC data read. Until the time I can, I ordered new raw. This is how I care for my customers - if a problem comes up, we rectify.
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We've all seen how you care for your customers. I think the way you define "rectifying problems" is a "little different" than the way most people would define it.

CBS
 
No, I didnt ask anyone to post here for me. I do that myself when I have time. I have not had the time of late to be around.

I do a lot to make sure products quality are the best they can be. And , as I've said at times issues do happen..they are taken care of.
BUT understand its hard for me to accept when someone here says all my orals are bunk. When we sell to hundreds of clients , weekly with no complaints.

I labmax my raws, I labmax the orals and oils. I get random vials tested ms/gc.
My customers send samples into ecstasydata..

We also, for the last 7yrs have a money back guarantee.

Regards,
K.

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KariusM said:
No, I didnt ask anyone to post here for me. I do that myself when I have time. I have not had the time of late to be around.

I do a lot to make sure products quality are the best they can be. And , as I've said at times issues do happen..they are taken care of.
BUT understand its hard for me to accept when someone here says all my orals are bunk. When we sell to hundreds of clients , weekly with no complaints.

I labmax my raws, I labmax the orals and oils. I get random vials tested ms/gc.
My customers send samples into ecstasydata..

We also, for the last 7yrs have a money back guarantee.

Regards,
K.

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10am, right on cue... ^^

You're lying:

AlphaLabs;269820 said:
I dont know what I'm looking at with a labmax, never use it.
I get only the raws tested (not labmax)

As I said I will look into this, I need some customer feedback on the
Dbol, Cialis, Nolva and drol
Only those post, please


Thanks
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http://anabolicboard.com/forums/showthread.php/16857-ALPHA-BAL-Labs-2014?p=269820&viewfull=1#post269820

Here we go with the "no complaints" shit again.. :rolleyes: There are several complaints on OLM, @Mimmik said his shit was garbage in my other thread, you pulled the drol because it was bunk, etc..
 
KariusM said:
No, I didnt ask anyone to post here for me. I do that myself when I have time. I have not had the time of late to be around.

I do a lot to make sure products quality are the best they can be. And , as I've said at times issues do happen..they are taken care of.
BUT understand its hard for me to accept when someone here says all my orals are bunk. When we sell to hundreds of clients , weekly with no complaints.

I labmax my raws, I labmax the orals and oils. I get random vials tested ms/gc.
My customers send samples into ecstasydata..

We also, for the last 7yrs have a money back guarantee.

Regards,
K.

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Lets stipulate this is all true.

Doesn't the issue then become: If you do ALL this, and have so few complaints, and yet still a Var tab gets pressed with zero Var and trace Tren, then your "system" of QA is broken and needs to change???

I think so.

Random MS is obviously not cutting it.

You could sprinkle Var on a turd and it would "pass" Labmax and xtcdata.

And saying you have few complaints and relying on that, and using that "fact" to discredit when people do have complaints, is cherry picking at best. Subjective opinion vs subjective opinion.

Time to MS every batch. Why wouldn't you? The cost would more than pay for itself in increased sales. Think of it as an investment.

Only reason for a source of your size and rep not to is lack of access. Which begs the question, do any raws get MS?
 
Karius, how can you say you labmax everything, then on AB you say you " dont know what I'm looking at with a labmax, never use it?"
Im no genius, but its pretty obvious whats going on here.
 
For what it's worth, I had a Test E 300 "mass specked(sp?)" and the results came back at 10% purity, yet my bloods showed 10X Total Test in my blood. I'm not completely sold on the MS testing myself. But then again I could be wrong...
 
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