Labmax test results

I like the credit somehow, whats the point of asking a source to send gear to be tested if they know it will be??? I'd prefer to keep this honest and test without personally knowing im being tested. I'll personally replace the bottle or pay for the kit to have every single one of my products tested. But I don't want to know until after the fact, that way you're testing what everyone gets, not what a source knows will be tested.

Im serious

You are the first lab to offer. I hope you are starting a trend!

Anyway, I wouldn't turn down store credit at PEP for the cost of the test plus shipping.
 
Dealer, I appreciate what you're doing. We've pm'd and you are clearly putting in some serious time into this. Thank you.
If I come off like I'm not happy with how you're doing things, I apologize. I'm wanting this fucking rep or whatever he is to see me. He obviously ignored the instructions he was given when he didn't have a pic with his handle and the date in it.
Of course pics are what we're after but not the shit he sent. I guarantee you this is not his set up, He;s a ugl and he is working out of his fucking apartment. The pics are a joke. If I had the means I'd go searching for those fucking pics. He probably used google to pull up pics and went to page 126 to help keep him being caught out. This is not a lab in the traditional sense of the word. Basement brewing is the story. The good ones move the location around.
 
Dealer, I appreciate what you're doing. We've pm'd and you are clearly putting in some serious time into this. Thank you.
If I come off like I'm not happy with how you're doing things, I apologize. I'm wanting this fucking rep or whatever he is to see me. He obviously ignored the instructions he was given when he didn't have a pic with his handle and the date in it.
Of course pics are what we're after but not the shit he sent. I guarantee you this is not his set up, He;s a ugl and he is working out of his fucking apartment. The pics are a joke. If I had the means I'd go searching for those fucking pics. He probably used google to pull up pics and went to page 126 to help keep him being caught out. This is not a lab in the traditional sense of the word. Basement brewing is the story. The good ones move the location around.

Ben I'm curious if this is the case in countries where AAS production is legal or at least not criminalized. Are labs in those places not of a higher quality when they bigger operations, or even state certified?

I honestly don't know, I'm hoping you do.
 
Bigmesc keep us posted my biologic tren e hasn't maid much of a difference at all and I'm going on week 3

So freezer test on Bio test E and test P also Astro test e

Bio Test E and Test P the entire oil was solidified and cloudy just looked like milky water but solid. Melted clear fairly quickly in minutes.

Astro Test E oil was still liquid with white globs, on the bottom and top of oil. Also melted quickly and turned clear in minutes.

I have two other brands I can try. This is a very unscientific test so take it with a grain of salt. I did have a vial of Bold Ace crash on delivery and the crystals in that looked very wicked like fine shards of glass no wonder it is so painful.
 
my biologic tren e hasn't maid much of a difference at all and I'm going on week 3

Tren E takes about 3-4 weeks to kick in and you will know when it does. Please keep us posted on how it works out.
 
I like the credit somehow, whats the point of asking a source to send gear to be tested if they know it will be??? I'd prefer to keep this honest and test without personally knowing im being tested. I'll personally replace the bottle or pay for the kit to have every single one of my products tested. But I don't want to know until after the fact, that way you're testing what everyone gets, not what a source knows will be tested.

Im serious

Hi gotPEP.

I am actually impressed at your post. I figured at some point you or Astro (top 2 sources here) would post but the fact you were first gets a brownie point from me. :)

I'd like your opinion on my Post 559. The entire testing process and the logic behind it. I've spent months thinking about it. I've tweaked it and may continue to tweak it. The perspective / concerns of a source would be enlightening.

Now I know you don't like initially a source to send gear to be tested. Of course they would send only their best... but I presented my logic why I would do that.

When you get a chance, I know your busy, please read it carefully and give me your honest opinion.

Ultimately we can't stop a scammer who is intent on scamming, I know. But we can make it hard and painful for them to do it on a large scale and we can also eliminate the stupid's and amateurs pretty quickly.
 
Dealer, I appreciate what you're doing. We've pm'd and you are clearly putting in some serious time into this. Thank you.
If I come off like I'm not happy with how you're doing things, I apologize. I'm wanting this fucking rep or whatever he is to see me. He obviously ignored the instructions he was given when he didn't have a pic with his handle and the date in it.
Of course pics are what we're after but not the shit he sent. I guarantee you this is not his set up, He;s a ugl and he is working out of his fucking apartment. The pics are a joke. If I had the means I'd go searching for those fucking pics. He probably used google to pull up pics and went to page 126 to help keep him being caught out. This is not a lab in the traditional sense of the word. Basement brewing is the story. The good ones move the location around.

Yes Ben I know your motivations are the safety of the community. Same as mine.
 
I love the thought you guys put into this!

I like the idea of sending a test kit to a respected member to test products without myself ever knowing they'll be tested. In my opinion this is the best option to really filter out who is legit and who is full of sh**. Let me know the cost of each kit please. I'll commit to pay for at least 1 maybe 5 a week to be sent to RESPECTED MEMBERS here that have obtained my product(s). This way my patrons can rest easy knowing what is being tested is tested with no prior knowledge by me and is exactly what you get when you trust me to deliver what you order. I really love this idea and will do whatever I can to help you guys in your quest of weeding out legitimate sources from the part time kitchen brewers ordering 3 compounds and selling 20 different products. Lets discuss in more detail tomorrow if that's ok.


Again, thank you for doing what you do!!!




UOTE=dealer;961595]Ok let me be more thorough here...



Ok say John Dingle wants to sell gear in Meso. He posts today. First Post:

Hi I am John Dingle.

I sell the best:

Tren Q
Tren F
Test Z
Primo 8
.
.
.
.
.

This guy may be selling EQ as Mast E.

The initial test is really only meant to ensure a) he is willing to send out something to be tested and b) the powder the source thinks he has matches whats in the vial.

Because if he does not cooperate... and he stalls.. or stutters.. its probably because he is broke or knows his gear on hand won't pass labmax.

Ok so lets say Flenser recives 14 different compounds. We test them out and they are all legit. It does not end there. Its just step 1 to catch them in a lie or stalling..

So as people buy.. due to the credit we have with Labmax thanks to the source, we can send a random member a labmax test.. continuing testing.. Never ending.. Lab max account being refilled by the source.



Maybe I am not being clear here. If a source sends his powder to be tested, by an INTERNATIONAL LAB, and the LAB cc's a member (via email)the results.. at least we know the source HAS access to the right powder sources somehow. Also its not the Source providing labs, its the LAB sending US the results.

Of course.. the source can still turn around go to another powder supplier or just to fill everything with Olive oil..

The thing is.. right now.. there are NO protections. These protections are not fool proof.

Also I've seen scams unfold on Pro Muscle. The difference is that here if someone complains, it won't get deleted, and it can trigger deeper tests / scrutiny.

Why ask for Pics ? A) To ensure they are not selling us their first brew. To ensure they have decent equipment. B) If a source fails and tries to come back the pics of the setup will be enough to identify them so in reality to come back and scam they will have to buy new equipment making the process expensive and annoying.

If anyone has other ideas for standardizing questioning / holding sources accountable please feel free to chime in. This is just my brainstorm and I am just 1 simple regular person with no ego trying to create a systematic way of holding sources accountable.[/QUOTE]
 
Ascendant Labs Tren A:

A friend of mine and long time member of this board sent me a vial to test using the Labmax kit. The source had no idea that this was going on and we feel it is an impartial test.

I only used the "B" test but did it with and without UV light. I apologize that the pictures didn't come out very good but it is clearly a pass.

Assendant TrenA UV Pass.jpg

Assendant TrenA Pass.jpg
 
Ascendant Labs Tren A:

A friend of mine and long time member of this board sent me a vial to test using the Labmax kit. The source had no idea that this was going on and we feel it is an impartial test.

I only used the "B" test but did it with and without UV light. I apologize that the pictures didn't come out very good but it is clearly a pass.

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Thanks gunrunner ;)
 
Ascendant Labs Tren A:

A friend of mine and long time member of this board sent me a vial to test using the Labmax kit. The source had no idea that this was going on and we feel it is an impartial test.

I only used the "B" test but did it with and without UV light. I apologize that the pictures didn't come out very good but it is clearly a pass.

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Well that's a nice feather that AL can put in his cap. Hopefully the rest of his products are similarly legit.
 
Ascendant Labs Tren A:

A friend of mine and long time member of this board sent me a vial to test using the Labmax kit. The source had no idea that this was going on and we feel it is an impartial test.

I only used the "B" test but did it with and without UV light. I apologize that the pictures didn't come out very good but it is clearly a pass.

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the color under UV looks green which is pass, I have checked the chart
 
So freezer test on Bio test E and test P also Astro test e

Bio Test E and Test P the entire oil was solidified and cloudy just looked like milky water but solid. Melted clear fairly quickly in minutes.

Astro Test E oil was still liquid with white globs, on the bottom and top of oil. Also melted quickly and turned clear in minutes.

I have two other brands I can try. This is a very unscientific test so take it with a grain of salt. I did have a vial of Bold Ace crash on delivery and the crystals in that looked very wicked like fine shards of glass no wonder it is so painful.

Never seen someone do this before so I'm not quite sure what a good or bad result from a freezer test is. Does returning back to clear mean that the gear is suspended well and didn't crash (assuming there's even gear in it)?
 
Ascendant Labs Tren A:

A friend of mine and long time member of this board sent me a vial to test using the Labmax kit. The source had no idea that this was going on and we feel it is an impartial test.

I only used the "B" test but did it with and without UV light. I apologize that the pictures didn't come out very good but it is clearly a pass.

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Thanks, I appreciate you guys taking the time to test my products,Helix.
 
Just want to give you guys a heads up. I have been running Ascendant Labs TestP/NPP for the last month with great results. I had bloodwork done last week, running TestP/NPP at 50mg/day. I will have bloods back Monday or Tuesday and it will be the real number. I also have all of AL's line, TrenE, TestE, TestP, NPP, ND, TrenA, and am ordering a Labmax kit today. I will be testing the entire AL line and posting results by the end of next week. I ordered the products without letting AL know I will be testing them so the test will be legit. I look forward to seeing the results as I believe the products I have been running are legit. Anyway, i will post with hard facts next week. Thanks to all you guys who started the project! A great tool to help keep us a little safer.
 
damn it how many fukin bravos are there.. O and, any word on the legitimacy of MAST e from astro?! i wana order.. i have some mast e i know is real but its expensive and its only 100mg/ml
 

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