Labmax test results

Have you uncovered any reliable data on aas spectrums?

I haven't looked, but if used in conjunction with the labmax I think one could reasonably ascertain the compound if the carrier agents were known. Might take some work and a fair amount of deductive reasoning.

Or we can try to find reliable spectrums. Hahaha
 
AT A GLANCE!

It's a GAS CHROMATOGRAPH with an optimal spectrum of "Halogenated hydrocarbon, alkanes, aromatics" (none apply to AAS per-say)

The "software is sold separately" and that will at least DOUBLE THE COST!

Who provides the SERVICE when things run amuck AND they ALWAYS do over time.

Remember forms of Chromatography are best used for determining a substances concentration rather than the identification of UNKNOWS, the latter is mass spectroscopy primary function.

Who and how are the solvents acquired such as methyl alcohol, acrylonitrile?

What cleaning methodologies are required?

What is the sensitivity and specificity thresholds of the results?

I'll give it a closer look later mates but on average expect to double the cost for a fully operational system.

Jim
 
I haven't looked, but if used in conjunction with the labmax I think one could reasonably ascertain the compound if the carrier agents were known. Might take some work and a fair amount of deductive reasoning.

Or we can try to find reliable spectrums. Hahaha

Heh, I was just talking to someone else about this. I turned this up a while back but balked at the price ($2295.00):

Code:
http://www.sisweb.com/software/ms/nist.htm

The site has a search engine for different substances and lists the databases they are contained in. NIST 11 came up on all the ones I searched on.

There a specific reference for androgens and estrogens (I forget the name) in the $5K range as well.

Maybe we could just start scavenging the lab reports posted all over the source boards. Even if they were faked they should include the correct spectrums, though maybe not the mass data.
 
AT A GLANCE!

It's a GAS CHROMATOGRAPH with an optimal spectrum of "Halogenated hydrocarbon, alkanes, aromatics" (none apply to AAS per-say)

The "software is sold separately" and that will at least DOUBLE THE COST!

Who provides the SERVICE when things run amuck AND they ALWAYS do over time.

Remember forms of Chromatography are best used for determining a substances concentration rather than the identification of UNKNOWS, the latter is mass spectroscopy primary function.

Who and how are the solvents acquired such as methyl alcohol, acrylonitrile?

What cleaning methodologies are required?

What is the sensitivity and specificity thresholds of the results?

I'll give it a closer look later mates but on average expect to double the cost for a fully operational system.

Jim

http://m.prnewswire.com/news-releases/verniers-gas-chromatograph-provides-affordable-chemical-analysis-for-science-educators-79223512.html

More reading on it. I'll watch the numerous training videos when I get home.

There are hundreds at this price point of different make and type.

The point is, it's not out of reach. As for profiles, I'm sure they're obtainable by hook or by crook.
 
Most of the narrow spectrum Chromatography devices are purchased by university, university affiliates or a bonafied labs where the capabilities of immuno-assay are exceeded.

However in these instances the purchasing facility has the technological, mechanical and financial support required to operate this machinery without awaiting the arrival of outsourced vendors for assistance. Eliminating the latter drastically reduces operational costs an downtime ensuring you get what you paid for.

My point, for the reasons I mentioned (and several others) the startup and/or operational costs are almost always prohibitive for a few interested physicians (been there fine that) let alone a hand full of BB.

Nonetheless I do what I can to assist you mates interested along these lines BUT the results are almost always revealing in and of themselves.

Jim
 
Well, shit. I see your point.

I'm not ready to give up yet. I need some free time, and I'll try and tap a few contacts in academia who might be able to steer me in a forward direction.

This thing hasn't beat me yet dammit :cool:
 
Thanks for digging Jim and CS. I have a certain price point in mind that would make it worth 60-70 years of knowing exactly what is in my compounds.
 
So btw, has anybody been going to town on primo with the lab max yet?

My kits are still in transit. Was planning to test PEP and a few raws that I have.
 
AT A GLANCE!

It's a GAS CHROMATOGRAPH with an optimal spectrum of "Halogenated hydrocarbon, alkanes, aromatics" (none apply to AAS per-say)

The "software is sold separately" and that will at least DOUBLE THE COST!

Who provides the SERVICE when things run amuck AND they ALWAYS do over time.

Remember forms of Chromatography are best used for determining a substances concentration rather than the identification of UNKNOWS, the latter is mass spectroscopy primary function.

Who and how are the solvents acquired such as methyl alcohol, acrylonitrile?

What cleaning methodologies are required?

What is the sensitivity and specificity thresholds of the results?

I'll give it a closer look later mates but on average expect to double the cost for a fully operational system.

Jim

Doc Jimmy - I know you've received some praise and love and welcome backs lately, but I feel the need to pile on anyways.....THANK YOU for the quality posts you make. There are many of us here who learn something from you weekly.

The community here is fortunate to have you and Doc Scally both around. While many of us can't pronounce some of what you type;), we thank you for sharing your years of knowledge.

I for one am definitely a safer and more responsible and more informed member of the community due to your participation. Thanks!
 
all eroids are bad sources?
No, there are some good sources over on eroids. The problem with the site is that you cannot really decipher the good from the bad by the reviews. You really have to figure it out for yourself. I have definitly bought good gear and bad gear from some of the top rated sources. The labmax test kit should really help out someone like me who actually cares that primo is primo and not tesp prop. I swear most of the guys on eroids don't really want to know. You'll get roasted over there for advocating testing the sources with labmax.
 
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Just for you DOW...

(Actually, I already had the links saved, so it was easy to do. Hope I didn't miss any.)

Wow that is Suprising the results for GP..... Sx I'm not suprised, I'm 90% sure my deca is oil.... Great work though I'm going get some of these kits....
 
fit2beking deserve`s a raise for doing all those tests i think the labs that passed should be giving him gear for his work ...And the people who use those sources should be thanking him ..WHAT SAY YOU :D :D
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fit2beking deserve`s a raise for doing all those tests i think the labs that passed should be giving him gear for his work ...And the people who use those sources should be thanking him ..WHAT SAY YOU :D :D
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You are tooting the wrong horn. Gunrunner, Flenser, and others. But yes thanks to King we have a running list.
 
fit2beking deserve`s a raise for doing all those tests i think the labs that passed should be giving him gear for his work ...And the people who use those sources should be thanking him ..WHAT SAY YOU :D :D
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Fit's just running the list along with a couple other guys. He isn't doing all the testing by a long shot. Gunny, Kubrick, and Flenser have done most of it I've seen.

Oh, and world-pharma. He's done testing for our benefit too :D
 
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