Laboratory testing of AASs, GH, peptides...

[wedorecover]

fuck you doctor wannabe

insulting is easy
at least try to explain why do you think the thread is stupid (it isn't)
you're no real MD, by the way

Not trying to answer for him but he doent clam to be a DR

 

[Docd187123]

fuck you doctor wannabe

insulting is easy
at least try to explain why do you think the thread is stupid (it isn't)
you're no real MD, by the way

 

[ProfessorX]

So anyone gonna jump

I was.....but decided not to

Too many "potential issues"

 

[Weston]

So anyone gonna jump

I'm about 50/50 going to give it a shot. It may not hold weight to be an sanctioned method for AL, but it would bring peace of mind before I inject an unknown substance into my muscle. I ordered 1 extra vial of each item from a lab for this purpose. According to @Analyzer, I can pull the labels off and send them to him and he can identify them. Sounds pretty convincing to me at least.

 

[ProfessorX]

I'm about 50/50 going to give it a shot. It may not hold weight to be an sanctioned method for AL, but it would bring peace of mind before I inject an unknown substance into my muscle. I ordered 1 extra vial of each item from a lab for this purpose. According to @Analyzer, I can pull the labels off and send them to him and he can identify them. Sounds pretty convincing to me at least.

That would be great....if you could send it that way (10mL Vial or 2mL Glass Vial)

But....because of potential "sending" and "receiving" issues......he would prefer you send "stealth"

With some of the Mega Dosed Ukrainian Super Juice on the Market....Containing:

Possible solvent/cosolvent, and preservative:

benzyl alcohol
benzyl benzoate
guaiacol
phenyl salicylate
ethyl oleate

I just don't think a "sandwich bag plastic" is going to cut it

Contamination of the sample is the first thing that comes to mind

Ethyl Oleate will eat up a rubber stopper

I dunno....maybe I'm totally wrong here......but

None of the labs (accredited and non-accredited) I've used in the past would accept finished oils this way and expect to give an accurate result

Not to mention shipping by air

(Expansion, temp changes, etc)

 

[wedorecover]

I'm about 50/50 going to give it a shot. It may not hold weight to be an sanctioned method for AL, but it would bring peace of mind before I inject an unknown substance into my muscle. I ordered 1 extra vial of each item from a lab for this purpose. According to @Analyzer, I can pull the labels off and send them to him and he can identify them. Sounds pretty convincing to me at least.

If you send more then one I'd take off labels and with a marker use sample x , y, Z and so on for your own record so you know sample x is allegedly test e 300 and so on

 

[Weston]

If you send more then one I'd take off labels and with a marker use sample x , y, Z and so on for your own record so you know sample x is allegedly test e 300 and so on

Exactly what I was planning on. Thanks for confirming that.

 

[Weston]

That would be great....if you could send it that way (10mL Vial or 2mL Glass Vial)

But....because of potential "sending" and "receiving" issues......he would prefer you send "stealth"

With some of the Mega Dosed Ukrainian Super Juice on the Market....Containing:

Possible solvent/cosolvent, and preservative:

benzyl alcohol
benzyl benzoate
guaiacol
phenyl salicylate
ethyl oleate

I just don't think a "sandwich bag plastic" is going to cut it

Contamination of the sample is the first thing that comes to mind

Ethyl Oleate will eat up a rubber stopper

I dunno....maybe I'm totally wrong here......but

None of the labs (accredited and non-accredited) I've used in the past would accept finished oils this way and expect to give an accurate result

Not to mention shipping by air

(Expansion, temp changes, etc)

Well, it would be 10ml glass vials. As we get closer to the time, I'll get the details worked out. I think @franchise24 is sending some stuff and I'll see if @mands has any suggestions.

 

[ProfessorX]

Thanks

I would really like to use this Guy

If Mands was happy with the results, then that's a plus

But, Analyzer communicated with me through email stating how to ship finished oils

It wasn't using an unopened 10mL Vial or a 2mL sample glass vial that I usually use unfortunately

I personally think it's a waste of my samples, time and money to send it any other way than glass container

Powders would be fine though

 

[Analyzer]

That would be great....if you could send it that way (10mL Vial or 2mL Glass Vial)

But....because of potential "sending" and "receiving" issues......he would prefer you send "stealth"

With some of the Mega Dosed Ukrainian Super Juice on the Market....Containing:

Possible solvent/cosolvent, and preservative:

benzyl alcohol
benzyl benzoate
guaiacol
phenyl salicylate
ethyl oleate

I just don't think a "sandwich bag plastic" is going to cut it

Contamination of the sample is the first thing that comes to mind

Ethyl Oleate will eat up a rubber stopper

I dunno....maybe I'm totally wrong here......but

None of the labs (accredited and non-accredited) I've used in the past would accept finished oils this way and expect to give an accurate result

Not to mention shipping by air

(Expansion, temp changes, etc)

I understand your concerns.
I do this to avoid people to send unopened glass ampoules or crimp vials with HUGE quantities of oils. These containers are easily identifiable under x-ray scanners at post offices or airports and you risk the samples won´t be delivered.
If you have small screw top vials and you trust them more, use them. Just send the quantity I asked.

,,Sandwich bag plastic,, is usually made of low density polyethylene. You can check its relative chemical compatibility here: LDPE Chemical Compatibility Chart
I retested 2 samples after placing into such bags for one week at ~90°F, there were no changes in content outside confidence interval and no new impurities.

 

[Marcus]

No no no. At BEST you make stupid posts and threads. At worst you waste oxygen for the rest of humanity and the animal kingdom.

Hahahaha, I'm all alone and literally laughed out loud at this

 

[showstoppa]

Can you test mk677?

 

[Bradly]

So anyone gonna jump

yeah brah, Im all in. BUT, y'all gotta be patient, my shit is inbound

 

[colossus25]

Im ready to give him a shot ill be sending him a pm this week.

 

[master.on]

I understand your concerns.
I do this to avoid people to send unopened glass ampoules or crimp vials with HUGE quantities of oils. These containers are easily identifiable under x-ray scanners at post offices or airports and you risk the samples won´t be delivered.
If you have small screw top vials and you trust them more, use them. Just send the quantity I asked.

,,Sandwich bag plastic,, is usually made of low density polyethylene. You can check its relative chemical compatibility here: LDPE Chemical Compatibility Chart
I retested 2 samples after placing into such bags for one week at ~90°F, there were no changes in content outside confidence interval and no new impurities.

Can you please describe us the testing process with detailed steps?

To gain further credibility:
Can you please describe us the testing process with detailed steps?
plz describe manual actions (i.e. dissolving in acetonitrile) and machine-related steps (i.e. changing settings, entering data)

Shouldn't be too bothersome of a requirement
If anything, it helps you write down a checklist
if you don't have one already.


I don't come to Meso with any agenda.
At worst, I can only be accused of making some idiot posts
but that was just for entertainment sake, to make guys loosen up and chill with humor.

 

[ProfessorX]

I understand your concerns.
I do this to avoid people to send unopened glass ampoules or crimp vials with HUGE quantities of oils. These containers are easily identifiable under x-ray scanners at post offices or airports and you risk the samples won´t be delivered.
If you have small screw top vials and you trust them more, use them. Just send the quantity I asked.

,,Sandwich bag plastic,, is usually made of low density polyethylene. You can check its relative chemical compatibility here: LDPE Chemical Compatibility Chart
I retested 2 samples after placing into such bags for one week at ~90°F, there were no changes in content outside confidence interval and no new impurities.

Thanks A

I appreciate the response and info

I know that labs will use a "poly" plastic container when using methanol to "separate" a tablet for testing (GC/MS)

Some of the higher dosed milligram "gear" uses solvents/co-solvents that will degrade a rubber stopper

ethyl acetate can dissolve some plastics

That's why I mentioned my concern with using "normal plastic bag"

Also,

In shipping, the sample is going to freeze (the sample may fall out of suspension or crash)

If any of the preservatives, solvents leak out during shipping....which is highly possible if shipped this way......the mg/mL ration will be compromised

I hope you understand these are issues I have had before when shipping samples INT

Identifying the sample wasn't a problem when shipped similar.....it was the quantitative (mg/mL) testing that was an issue

Thanks

 

[mands]

Here is what I suggest for shipping oils:

1. Always try and ship in the warmer months.
2. Use freezer packs to insulate contents. These take a long time to freeze and can insulate the contents.
3. Wrap oils in ziplock bag and put some sort of absorbent material around them in the bag to absorb if contents leak.
4. Use bubble wrap to insulate.
5. Use 48 hour chemical heat pack(24 hour pack will usually do fine)

mands

 

[ProfessorX]

Nice! Thanks Mands

What ANALYZER suggested for shipping I think would be fine for powders, HGH powder, etc

I understand the possible "issue" of sending full 10mL vials,etc

I suggested this for finished oils:



These always weathered well with pressure and temperature changes on a 8-12 hour over the pond trip

 

[Weston]

Nice! Thanks Mands

What ANALYZER suggested for shipping I think would be fine for powders, HGH powder, etc

I understand the possible "issue" of sending full 10mL vials,etc

I suggested this for finished oils:

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These always weathered well with pressure and temperature changes on a 8-12 hour over the pond trip

From where did you pick up those little critters?

 

[ProfessorX]

From where did you pick up those little critters?

Links:

Sample Vials

Fisherbrand Transport Tubes :Test Tubes, Vials, Caps and Closures:Vials

Thermo Scientific Capitol Vial 12 x 75mm Round Bottom Sample Tubes Polypropylene

You can also simply Google:

1 mL / 2mL sample vials


1 ml (0.3 Dram) Clear Glass Perfume Sampler Vials (PE Clip Cap)