Whoremoans
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Scratch that, he started his own @Analyzer bashing thread lol.
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Laboratory testing of AASs, GH, peptides...
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Analyzer
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@Iron Vett , thank you for the question.
Since I am not accredited laboratory, it is quite hard to get certified reference material. Hence I use raws I tested in the past. Because they usually contain some impurities, I need to purify them to get the standard.
The most convenient way to do so is to use flash chromatography. It is a separation technique commonly used to purify organic compounds in research laboratories. It works on similar principle as HPLC. The main difference is quantity of material you can separate. HPLC usually works with micrograms, preparative flash chromatography works with up to gram quantities.
Preparative chromatography uses bigger columns and higher solvent flow rates. After the target compound is separated from the impurities (you see them as signal coming from UV or ELSD detector), it is separately collected, solvents are evaporated, the compound is dried to constant weight and the purity is confirmed by HPLC and/or GC. Then I use it as a standard.
To get an idea how such chromatography looks like: Biotage - Flash Purification
It is not accredited practice, but the results you get are the same. It is broadly used in research where you often work with new compounds which certified reference materials simply does not exist.
Analyzer
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You apparently know nothing about Agilent system.
The ,,location,, stands for position of sample vial in the autosampler system. P1 means plate 1, A means first row of the plate, the last number is the particular position.
Maybe I´m gonna surprise you, but GC/MS is quite common equipment in many laboratories. You have probably never been in any, so please don´t make these conclusions, because you discredit yourself.
I said at least 3 times: I AM NOT ACCREDITED LABORATORY
RThoads
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I am not going to give a bunch of my personal info here online.
But as some know I worked in the field of chemical research and have years beyond an undergrad degree in formal education.
If you do not believe me so be it -- I can not post any deeper personal info for obvious reasons.
While I was NOT an analytic chemist (but they were all around me doing their part in the processes), I am at least somewhat familiar with the basics of HPLC, GC, MS, H and C13 NMR, UV-vis, IR etc...
Chromatography on a raw will purify and isolate the main substance.
One could then follow-up with recrystallization of that material and get nearly 99+% pure crystals (we used these exact methods to obtain crystals perfect enough for x-ray crystallography).
Therefore, the methods @Analyzer just described would indeed work to create a "standard" of his own assuming he knows what the raw was (and that can be determined very easily with NMR and GC/MS etc).
I have ZERO affiliation with him and I am NOT recommending the service NOR am I doubting it -- Instead, I am simply stating that from the point of view of someone that has worked in the industry, Analyzer's methods make sense.
But as some know I worked in the field of chemical research and have years beyond an undergrad degree in formal education.
If you do not believe me so be it -- I can not post any deeper personal info for obvious reasons.
While I was NOT an analytic chemist (but they were all around me doing their part in the processes), I am at least somewhat familiar with the basics of HPLC, GC, MS, H and C13 NMR, UV-vis, IR etc...
Chromatography on a raw will purify and isolate the main substance.
One could then follow-up with recrystallization of that material and get nearly 99+% pure crystals (we used these exact methods to obtain crystals perfect enough for x-ray crystallography).
Therefore, the methods @Analyzer just described would indeed work to create a "standard" of his own assuming he knows what the raw was (and that can be determined very easily with NMR and GC/MS etc).
I have ZERO affiliation with him and I am NOT recommending the service NOR am I doubting it -- Instead, I am simply stating that from the point of view of someone that has worked in the industry, Analyzer's methods make sense.
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Thank you for the reply. I appreciate your explanation of procedures in the open forum. I knew that you were standardizing a known, previously tested sample but was not familiar with the process.
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well... that was quite a read. It seems mercuy and kunh are on that norman bates shit. one flew over the cuckoos nest. fucking schizophrenic.
Answer the fucking question do you get kick backs from lab max
Lmao off go sit in the truck bitch and don't touch the fucking radio hahaha
It is an insult to everyones intelligence to avoid this question. I empathize with Trukks frustration. lol he asked like 9 times in a row.
colossus25
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You should see how many times we collectively asked him in the other thread he started. He dodge the question EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Despite the initial testing @mands had done with @Analyzer (thank you both for everything you do) it is absolutely ridiculous to speculate the services being offered are for the benefit of any source considering ANYONE can submit an anonymous sample.
So yeah I would be butthurt too if someone had a more realiable service to offer than myself. lol
BUT I would be respectful of another mans services if it would benefit the community. Mercury will get over it eventually.
So yeah I would be butthurt too if someone had a more realiable service to offer than myself. lol
BUT I would be respectful of another mans services if it would benefit the community. Mercury will get over it eventually.
@mercury has shown up in every labmax thread I have posted now it all make since mercury I didn't even finish high school and I can see what's going on here your a lame and mad because your gonna lose the tiny bit of hustle you have hahahahahaha your a joke might want to try getting a job lax maxing in moms basement just went out the window
Just a idea but I was thinking maybe Millard has some samples that have already been tested that he can send in and see if it comes back the same
colossus25
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We have a few members myself included ready to send samples of raws we know are legit. We will send them unmarked and see if analyzer can identify them and the purity. Idk about anybody else but me personally im waiting for analyzer to post up pics of the lab and equipment which he said he will do soon. Once he does that i will be among the first to send him samples.
CdnGuy
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Laughing? Seems to be more like backing LM...no?
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@mercury you left out an important fact from this quote ^^^ Results posted by labs are not credible " Unless the lab uses "lab max" ! Oh and if you've run their gear too it's g2g right?...
Missions Labs Canada - GC/MS - Product Testing by Labmax.
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mercury
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Ok since I am done as I promised in the other thread
I will check here but I cannot comment on every dumb post here
First I see CdnGuy but I having hard time to figure what the fuck he is trying to prove or say. I understand that he will trust results posted by sources (or everything posted here)
OK, it is fine with me what he pins.
I will check here but I cannot comment on every dumb post here
First I see CdnGuy but I having hard time to figure what the fuck he is trying to prove or say. I understand that he will trust results posted by sources (or everything posted here)
OK, it is fine with me what he pins.
Take it from a guy that has been around these boards for quite some time, no one wants you to comment or even cares what you have to say.
If your done, then be done with it.
Ya know bud, even if the new proposed testing lab doesn't work out, it doesn't change anything you have done here in the last few days. You have really hurt yourself with the shady tactics, lies and all around bullshit.
You remind me of a jealous girlfriend that is about to lose her man to someone better that will stop at nothing to get him back... but, it's too late.
Good luck bouncing back from this one. You did it to yourself.
If your done, then be done with it.
Ya know bud, even if the new proposed testing lab doesn't work out, it doesn't change anything you have done here in the last few days. You have really hurt yourself with the shady tactics, lies and all around bullshit.
You remind me of a jealous girlfriend that is about to lose her man to someone better that will stop at nothing to get him back... but, it's too late.
Good luck bouncing back from this one. You did it to yourself.
mercury
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HDH honestly nobody gives fuck what you have to say,
he already posted he can test everything
he already posted he can test everything
Sdryx
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Thanks for the reply, however I would like for him to express what he is comfortable with as you don't appear to see where I am going with this.
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