Package seized

[CraneKraken]

I'm on 3, and 1 seizure no letter. The address doesn't matter, the name does. Good thing I have a middle name as well as a couple of pseudonyms that look very close to local mailman but are absolutely different to a computer scanner. USPS admits that they track names, not addresses simply because people move.

I received 2 of those letters back in 2022 - both packages came from India. I moved to a different city but kept using my name on packages and haven't had a problem since. I guess my point is I'm not so sure it's either name or address. The letters are copy n paste run of the mill shit the feds do. They don't care to dump a penny of their resources into a guy ordering peptides and a bunch of test online. It's not worth the effort to them. If it were, you'd get a letter and a raid. All for personal use? Not very likely. It's the equivalent of busting a guy with a few seeds or an 1/8th worth of weed. I imagine they have much more to do with their time than to bother dudes that go to the gym everyday and use AAS' n Peptides to improve their overall wellbeing. Maybe when the borders are in check, the national Debt is slowed, inflation stops, and a plethora of others issues are resolved they'll get to the oils, peps, and tabs orders for personal consumption.

 

[milkbone]

I received 2 of those letters back in 2022 - both packages came from India. I moved to a different city but kept using my name on packages and haven't had a problem since. I guess my point is I'm not so sure it's either name or address. The letters are copy n paste run of the mill shit the feds do. They don't care to dump a penny of their resources into a guy ordering peptides and a bunch of test online. It's not worth the effort to them. If it were, you'd get a letter and a raid. All for personal use? Not very likely. It's the equivalent of busting a guy with a few seeds or an 1/8th worth of weed. I imagine they have much more to do with their time than to bother dudes that go to the gym everyday and use AAS' n Peptides to improve their overall wellbeing. Maybe when the borders are in check, the national Debt is slowed, inflation stops, and a plethora of others issues are resolved they'll get to the oils, peps, and tabs orders for personal consumption.

The part about the name and address correlation I read in a Postal Inspector's procedure overview, but I'm definitely not authority at all. It's a constant learning experience from both sides of the fence. As defense gains ground it is quickly outpaced by offense. I've also learned about a type of international mail that is segregated from pickup to dropoff and for it to go through inspection, not even opening just inspection, a high ranking USPS employee must be present - no exceptions. Kind of like how Priority is the only US domestic mail that cannot be opened on a whim. Gotta stay on top of the law if you plan on bending it, let alone breaking it.

 

[milkbone]

... The letters are copy n paste run of the mill shit the feds do. They don't care to dump a penny of their resources into a guy ordering peptides and a bunch of test online. It's not worth the effort...

Thinking back, the form letter is dead on, except for my 1st one (naturally). This lady included pics and a weight of test that was way out of wack, I think she claimed 56ish grams of test in 10 bottles, 5 Sust and 5 prop. Must've weighed the packaging too just like the cops do with coke to boost the claim until it gets to court after labs, etc. But this one, weight, pics, the whole shebang. It was my first interwebs source, I'll name them if anyone wants, these sloppy pricks shipped individual priority boxes already packed and addressed in a large UPS box from China to the reshipper here. My box was 1 of what looked to be about 50-100 possibly, it was a good sized box, say 3ft² about. Full of Priority mail small boxes. Sure, each small box has an X-ray proof bag, but not the bigass one. In my view, sloppy, especially coming from China. Live and learn.

 

[Ghoul]

The part about the name and address correlation I read in a Postal Inspector's procedure overview, but I'm definitely not authority at all. It's a constant learning experience from both sides of the fence. As defense gains ground it is quickly outpaced by offense. I've also learned about a type of international mail that is segregated from pickup to dropoff and for it to go through inspection, not even opening just inspection, a high ranking USPS employee must be present - no exceptions. Kind of like how Priority is the only US domestic mail that cannot be opened on a whim. Gotta stay on top of the law if you plan on bending it, let alone breaking it.

CBP long ago solved the problem of "slightly different name/address spelling" via a software system called "Name/address disambiguation" they spent tens of millions on.

They're not that stupid, it's just that most cases don't rise to a level that warrants pursuing. If someone does come to their attention, by selling for instance, they'll retroactively bring up all that past activity.

They'll even extend this analysis to P.o. boxes in a big radius around the recipients home address.

Reading court docs of those who went too far and got prosecuted demonstrates that they know much, much more than most realize.

I've come to the conclusion you can't avoid their surveillance. The only thing you can do is stay under the radar by not engaging in high risk, highly illegal activities. End users are not a priority.

 

[milkbone]

CBP long ago solved the problem of "slightly different name/address spelling" via a software system called "Name/address disambiguation" they spent tens of millions on.

They're not that stupid, it's just that most cases don't rise to a level that warrants pursuing. If someone does come to their attention, by selling for instance, they'll retroactively bring up all that past activity.

They'll even extend this analysis to P.o. boxes in a big radius around the recipients home address.

Reading court docs of those who went too far and got prosecuted demonstrates that they know much, much more than most realize.

I've come to the conclusion you can't avoid their surveillance. The only thing you can do is stay under the radar by not engaging in high risk, highly illegal activities. End users are not a priority.

Agree 100%, no such thing as privacy anymore, hasn't been in decades. The things that I've known about since the mid 90s are finally coming out now. I only knew because of my former career, and was told that I'm paranoid. Paranoid? Perhaps. But with proof.

 

[dinfar1337]

In DK we have several entrance points, and if my 'name' and 'adress' shows up they will open everything at this route/entrance point, (will not go into specific details on a open forum ) but you can it in via another name /adress, if it's not again, randomly pulled out for a check.

If I order some, lets's say obvious AAS, test and deca, cutoms will send a note to the police. I will get a note that I'm a 'suspect' but that they will drop the charges and destroy the items, or we can go to court, if I want to claim my products...

Have also looked inte some court charges, and it was A LOT of items/vials/ampules - so I figured I would be alright , If I only ordered small amounts

So I have tested Dk customs just for the fun of it, and to get some insight how they work.

What I know so far, if this can help anyone in DK:

Every common AAS + pills i cant get + Anastrozole, Exemestane, HCG they take.

Things customs opened but not seized:

Cabergoline, Isotretinon, Insulin (lantus), Insulin (lilly), Insulin (Kwk), Modafinil,Original Viagra ( think they take Kamagra because it is not an accepted replica).....

But like I said In DK we have several entrance points

i tried to claim package because i was testing a ugl and ordered without labels so i thought they wouldn't test it. they send me a letter im charged with 300ml test 200ml tren when it was the mg for 2 vials 20ml total xd. i didnt believe they tested 2 vials so idk how they came to know but ig they have destroyed my package even tho i want to take it to the court. denmark is a funny country

 

[Psy-chonaut]

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i tried to claim package because i was testing a ugl and ordered without labels so i thought they wouldn't test it. they send me a letter im charged with 300ml test 200ml tren when it was the mg for 2 vials 20ml total xd. i didnt believe they tested 2 vials so idk how they came to know but ig they have destroyed my package even tho i want to take it to the court. denmark is a funny country

That Sounds a bit funky, cause if they tested it- it would never be 300 mg/ ml, on the dot - it would be +- something. And if It were tested by customs/police, I would be quite sure You got a fine or should pay for their testing. It Sounds like something indicated what it was. But if the seizure is small, they often just send it to destruction, without further notice…. Tried that many times.

 

[dinfar1337]

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That Sounds a bit funky, cause if they tested it- it would never be 300 mg/ ml, on the dot - it would be +- something. And if It were tested by customs/police, I would be quite sure You got a fine or should pay for their testing. It Sounds like something indicated what it was. But if the seizure is small, they often just send it to destruction, without further notice…. Tried that many times.

yes, idk how they were even supposed to find out. ive ordered many times more from that ugl. always on point with labeling/not labeling. did half more years of orders without labels always no indication of what it was. now i just order with labels cuz i trust him so much. and the package got seized because i put a fake address first time so it was me who messed up first time. im still kinda confused but im fine with it since free reship and no fine