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But in all fairness mercury does know what he is talking about, no doubt. But it very much sounds like he has an agenda here. Analyzer did give a very valid reason for choosing GC/MS. Actually i would like to hear @Analyzer further elaborate why gc/ms is more trust worthy than hplc, i was under the impression that hplc was the norm for testing aas.
 
Analyzer said:
1. In terms of finding identity of compounds present in the sample, the GC/MS is much more reliable than comparing of retention times at HPLC. Mass spectra match is a prove, retention time match is not. Moreover, there can be impurities invisible for UV detector of HPLC but visible for mass detector in GC.

2./3. I did not have standard of primobolan for the first test, so I used external standard since I wanted at least preliminary result before holidays. I had impure raw primobolan left from previous testings. I purified it using preparative flash chromatography to get standard which I used for subsequent testing. That´s all...
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So you use mass spec to identify and hplc to test for purity?
 
@mercury why can't you answer the question, do you receive money for lab maxing for members? If you ignore the question again we will take it as a yes. And if it is a yes you have a huge conflict of interests here.

This question is very relevant due to the fact you are acting personally hurt over another way for members to test gear.

Hey, in the end maybe you are right, but right now you still have not provided solid evidence to prove your theory. As a matter of fact your insults and butt hurt behavior is leaning my opinion the other way.

Also another excellent question is "what country are you from?" It is very coincidental this illiterate member @kunh has jumped in to back you up on this thread.

Please answer the questions I have respectfully asked you or move on.

Thank you
 
Interesting facts about Mercury:

1) a year on Mercury is only 88 days long

2) Mercury is the 2nd hottest planet. Seeing temps of 427°c. Due to the planet having no atmosphere to regulate the swings in temp

3) Mercury does a terrible job at impersonating other members. Especially dumb, ignorant urban wiggers
 
colossus25 said:
i was under the impression that hplc was the norm for testing aas.
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you are right.


GC/MS isn’t suitable for steroids. Steroids cannot be reliably detected by GC because the compounds are slightly volatile and can denature when heated.


Note GC (GC/MS) has something called column and oven when sample is heated before being run through detector.


This is why HPLC is preferred method. Also notice companies like Simec will not test HGH because it requires special setup it simply cannot be done on something like GC/MS


If somebody tells you that he tested for example HGH on GC/MS it is scam to get your money for fake testing because it cannot be done.

By looking at many lab test results posted by "sources" when you see the type of setup and chromatographs you see right away that they made it in photoshop.
 
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mercury said:
you are right.


GC/MS isn’t suitable for steroids. Steroids cannot be reliably detected by GC because the compounds are slightly volatile and can denature when heated.


Note GC (GC/MS) has something called column and oven when sample is heated before being run through detector.


This is why HPLC is preferred method. Also notice companies like Simec will not test HGH because it requires special setup it simply cannot be done on something like GC/MS


If somebody tells you that he tested for example HGH on GC/MS it is scam to get your money for fake testing because it cannot be done.

By looking at many lab test results posted by "sources" when you see the type of setup and chromatographs you see right away that they made it in photoshop.
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GC/MS Drug Testers Face Olympian Challenge

You're only partially correct, what you are referring to are corticosteroids which can't be tested for the reasons you stated. According to all the research i can find states that gc/ms is actually optimal for identifying anabolic compounds. And why does it sound like you ripped off this article and twisted it to fit your agenda? Refer to the limitations section of the link i posted and refer to the success section which actually proves @Analyzer correct.

Lmaoo @mands i think you might want to take a look at this.
 
looks like you are total ignorant and you do not understand basic principles and twisting all to prove your agenda. What the fuck you are talking about, where did you get the corticosteroids from. What the fuck they have to do with testing AAS.

All organic is slightly volatile or volatile this includes steroids, this is why HPLC is preferred method.

You have never worked or seen HPLC, GC, GC/MS you have no clue how it works, how it looks like, what it can do. And what the fuck you want to argue about.

do you carry any degree in chemistry ?
 
this guy analyzer already tired to discredit Simec while the report he made is a total mess.

Simec is the only trusted company. I have seen another guy in another forum trying to the same, discrediting Simec while trying to promote he questionable testing.

when confronted with question he did not know what to say

he cannot be taken seriously.

we have those guys coming here all the time offering questionable testing services
 
mercury said:
this guy analyzer already tired to discredit Simec while the report he made is a total mess.

Simec is the only trusted company. I have seen another guy in another forum trying to the same, discrediting Simec while trying to promote he questionable testing.

when confronted with question he did not know what to say

he cannot be taken seriously.

we have those guys coming here all the time offering questionable testing services
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mercury said:
looks like you are total ignorant and you do not understand basic principles and twisting all to prove your agenda. What the fuck you are talking about, where did you get the corticosteroids from. What the fuck they have to do with testing AAS.

All organic is slightly volatile or volatile this includes steroids, this is why HPLC is preferred method.

You have never worked or seen HPLC, GC, GC/MS you have no clue how it works, how it looks like, what it can do. And what the fuck you want to argue about.

do you carry any degree in chemistry ?
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Lol so why does every article and information i can find say otherwise? I have no horse in this race and you actually do. Post up research stating that gc/ms wouldn't work for testing aas i bet you can't find any. Oh wait we just have to just take your word for it right mr. Expert?
 
Ripped said:
Let's see if we can learn anything from your post.

Wait this looks oddly similar let me guess just a coincidence?

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Let's also notice the punctuations.
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Let's also notice the double spacing between sentences and paragraphs. Very similar indeed. It doesn't look like @mands is the poser up to no good to me!

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