Exactly! And WU isn't investigating illegal activity. They leave that to LE. My guess is WU executives are well aware that a fairly large percentage of their transactions and their profits are for illegal activity.
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Letter from Western Union
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Exactly! And WU isn't investigating illegal activity. They leave that to LE. My guess is WU executives are well aware that a fairly large percentage of their transactions and their profits are for illegal activity.
Gorillaglue
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I think you just answered your own question...However about a month. ago I sent money's via WU..When I never received and email confirming it's pickup,I called them and had the pin traced. Turns out ,I have no reason why they refused to send it.The source was ok,I'd dealt with them several times before..They simply had me go to any WU ,which I did...Show my I.d. and gave me my money,only difference was I had to change the location to Colorado as sender,and resend to myself....Never had them ask to fax or mail my i.d. I'd call and ask about policies for unclaimed cash...anonymously see if it's around 3 yrs...and go get that shit if it is..Never heard of a supplier sending w/o the cash....unless it was trash..
chewiebaca
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Totally didn't think about it from that point of view, they definitely would have a video. Thanks everyone for the input thus far, lots of good information. Helps having other points of view and anecdotal stories.
No it was the next day. But this wasn't unclaimed funds either. The receiver was on a list from LE as participating in illegal activity through WU so he couldn't pick up the funds.
I wouldn't have signed anything under those circumstances but as I said my friend did and got his money back and that was the end of it. I believe he still uses WU too which would scare me.
Tdflorida
New Member
So why do they need his photo id and information then.? Dont we all use WN to remain anonymous in the first place? Who knows maybe this whole thing messes up imashortee chances of using WN in the future? Im not saying LE has a huge operation going on but it just is what it is. Paid, Received, Done.
WN should be trying to get the seller to come pick up their money, not the buyer, buyer got his shit. Karma guys, Karma!
They need your Id when you get any refund from a western union transaction. If you want to remain more anonymous then you don't use your real information. When you use fake information though that negates your ability to receive your money back in a case like this.
You have to produce an ID and sign to get your money back on a failed WU transaction, regardless of why it failed, at a physical WU location.
That is why some recommend always using your real name when sending funds.
You beat me to the last post @GigaloRob!
Tdflorida
New Member
Question does the amount sent have any bearing on weather a buyer could be busted? Lets say someone buys 20,000 worth of gear. Yeah the source is already understood as a risk but would LE be more interested at where 20Grand worth of gear was ending up?
Sending $20,000 through WU for illegal activity is asking to get yourself arrested in my opinion.
AIRBORNE DADDY
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I get id'd for WU and MG....
Tdflorida
New Member
Right so what i was saying is, there is an amount that crosses that line to where LE goes after the buyer right?
1000 bucks no big deal, 20g big deal. The amount of money shouldnt be an issue. 1000 bucks of heroin, crack, gear is no better than 20 grand of heroin crack or gear is it? Just curious if there is a line that LE starts to become interested at.
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I'm not sure is the answer but I can tell you anything over $10,000 in a cash transaction requires the receiver to fill out forms and report to the government if they are in the US. This isn't specific to WU transfers but all transactions. So if someone pays $15,000 in cash for a used car from a dealership the dealership is required to fill out forms which include copies of the sender's ID. So anything $10,000 over is potentially getting scrutinized.
ironwill1951
New Member
western union discontinued my account after I sent an order they told me to take a picture id to any western union to get my refund, I also did this and received my refund. their was no sending anything thru the mail.
Tdflorida
New Member
Wow did not know that. On a side note i just read a couple stories where people had this letter sent to them as well and it was ok to get the refund. So looks like you may be right. Apparently each state is different for the amount of time WN can hold unclaimed funds but some can be held up to 5 years be fore its escheated to the state. I guess theres a big lawsuit going on abiut this WN practice of holding funds so long too.
It's all about risk vs benefit risk here. You did get the products so nothing lost here. A 3 year old transaction would make me very suspicious. I'd leave it alone
If someone were trying to build a case against a larger player in the game they could use your refund as evidence you sent money to purchase gear. Paper forms aren't evidence if the store has no video anymore. Now, you returning for the refund is. There is something called conspiracy, it's when they see numerous transactions to foreign countries from Western union. It's like saying we know u did it but u don't have it now, but we still know u did it . Conspiracy carries a 5 year sentence
Weston
Member
I'd go pick it up. Statute of limitations has to be up on a purchase like this. ...and that's only IF this was anything other than a legitimate return.
Canadiankid1978
New Member
If they wanted to give your info out to authorities, they would have already. (after all, it isn't very difficult for them to contact the isp of your email and track you down if they were that persistent. ) That is my take on it anyway lol. On the other hand........I would write them back and ask why you can't just drop by a WU branch and show them ID to recover the funds. Tell them you don't give that kinda info out online due to security rights.
Super Charge
Member
If you do get it and something happens just remember to not say anything. "Talk to my attorney" is all you need to say. I think you'll be fine though. I'd pick it up.
