LIPIDS- HDL/LDL

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Please help, Statin advice, Lipids are off

@Scruf Are you on a keto diet? In your first post you said you were in ketosis every day. If so, what do your macros look like? The reason I ask is because keto diets are usually very high in fats, and the most fucked up my lipids have ever been was when I tried a keto diet for a short time...

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Please help, Statin advice, Lipids are off

10mg per day? Man that's a lot, i see some guys taking 2,5 per day or 5 every other day. How long you're on rosuvostatin? Noticed any side effects? Max dose is 40.... I currently take 10mg of Rovustatin and my Cholesterol is down from 221 to 124 and my LDL is down from 164 to 90. HDL is...

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[Jin23]

I have had joint pain my whole life. It did not seem to change with the Statin

You were using 10 mg ed or 10mg / week?

 

[Eddie.]

You were using 10 mg ed or 10mg / week?

He said ed in his thread.

Please help, Statin advice, Lipids are off

@Scruf Are you on a keto diet? In your first post you said you were in ketosis every day. If so, what do your macros look like? The reason I ask is because keto diets are usually very high in fats, and the most fucked up my lipids have ever been was when I tried a keto diet for a short time...

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[Jin23]

He said ed in his thread.

Please help, Statin advice, Lipids are off

@Scruf Are you on a keto diet? In your first post you said you were in ketosis every day. If so, what do your macros look like? The reason I ask is because keto diets are usually very high in fats, and the most fucked up my lipids have ever been was when I tried a keto diet for a short time...

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If ed then those numbers he posted are nothing of serious note. My numbers get literally halved by 5mg x 2 week.

 

[Eddie.]

If ed then those numbers he posted are nothing of serious note. My numbers get literally halved by 5mg x 2 week.

Yeah, you have almost similar results with 10mg per week while he's on 70mg per week. Have you tried ezetimibe before went on statin?

 

[egruberman]

If ed then those numbers he posted are nothing of serious note. My numbers get literally halved by 5mg x 2 week.

Like many other things, there's a variation in individual response. Here's an excellent paper on the dose/response curve:

Randomized Dose-Response Study of Rosuvastatin in Japanese Patients With Hypercholesterolemia

Access full-text academic articles: J-STAGE is an online platform for Japanese academic journals.

www.jstage.jst.go.jp

Click on the PDF on the top right to read. Unfortunately, it's a fairly small trial.

Here's a meta-analysis on the frequency of side effects with various statins:

Associations between statins and adverse events in primary prevention of cardiovascular disease: systematic review with pairwise, network, and dose-response meta-analyses

To assess the associations between statins and adverse events in primary prevention of cardiovascular disease and to examine how the associations vary by type and dosage of statins.Systematic review and meta-analysis.Studies were identified from previous ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It can be skipped as it doesn't reveal much. There's very little offered in the way of data on the dose response curve on adverse effects, asserting there is none. It also downplays the prevalence of type 2 diabetes, which I know is false. It saddens me that after over a couple decades of use, this is the best data we have on side effects.

 

[justanoob]

Try krill oil instead of fish oil. I also like EITHER citrus bergamot OR red yeast rice (only one or the other), NAC and TUDCA for liver, turmeric for all around inflammation, and yes I would add olive oil into your daily meals. lots of cardio as well

Can I ask why its recommended to take one or the other, and not both (Citrus B & Red yeast rice)?

 

[jdubzzz44]

Can I ask why its recommended to take one or the other, and not both (Citrus B & Red yeast rice)?

Red yeast rice sold in the us does not contain the active ingredient anymore, basically worthless

Red yeast rice products that have considerable amounts of monacolin K may effectively lower blood cholesterol levels, blood glucose levels, and blood pressure. But, because of the levels of monacolin K, these products are considered by the FDA to be unapproved new drugs and are not sold legally in the United States.

Other red yeast rice products may contain very little monacolin K, and it’s unknown if these products are effective in reducing cholesterol levels or improving other areas of health. Some products have levels of monacolin K that are below the level known to lower cholesterol in clinical trials.

Red Yeast Rice

This fact sheet provides information about the safety and effectiveness red yeast rice supplements.

www.nccih.nih.gov