Ryu82
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Huge difference in your chest man.
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Slowww
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Yeah definitely, can finally do some of the poses haha
Slowww
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Cut is ending— so at 101kg, we’ve tacked on 8.11kg/17.9lbs of muscle since last September.
This exceeded my expectations. I was looking for 5-7kg. We used LESS PEDs currently on the cut, so I know it isn’t fluff and water.
Next 3 weeks we will maintain, so slowly coming out of caloric deficit.
Just adding enough food to improve recovery, training quality, hopefully get some strength back, but keep the same condition.
One difference from last time though, we will keep the same stack (test mast tren) through maintenance and a bit of the reverse diet period. Last time we simply dropped everything and went to TRT.
Thursday I will start sessions with psycho and continue to dial in training aspects before I go into the off season.
Once I am back in china & my normal routine we will start the off season.
This exceeded my expectations. I was looking for 5-7kg. We used LESS PEDs currently on the cut, so I know it isn’t fluff and water.
Next 3 weeks we will maintain, so slowly coming out of caloric deficit.
Just adding enough food to improve recovery, training quality, hopefully get some strength back, but keep the same condition.
One difference from last time though, we will keep the same stack (test mast tren) through maintenance and a bit of the reverse diet period. Last time we simply dropped everything and went to TRT.
Thursday I will start sessions with psycho and continue to dial in training aspects before I go into the off season.
Once I am back in china & my normal routine we will start the off season.
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Ryu82
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This is a mistake I see a lot people making. Reversing out and milking the rebound a bit is a much better way to go if you can manage it.
Huge progress in less than a year man. At this point I would kill to be able to put on an lean 8kg in 12 months.
Slowww
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So down to 100kg today
About 7kg more or less right where I expected, still fine!
Starting to train vacuums, here is where Im starting
About 7kg more or less right where I expected, still fine!
Starting to train vacuums, here is where Im starting
Slowww
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forgot to post one— finally got glute striations on rear double bicep
Slowww
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back drier today after carbs going in 
Slowww
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100kg holding steady adding food very slowly.
Finally got some posing trunks coming in the mail, now that Im not in china I can get the right size.
Waist still at 32 inches
Finally got some posing trunks coming in the mail, now that Im not in china I can get the right size.
Waist still at 32 inches
Slowww
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Posing practice 
Slowww
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Fasted check ins 100kg/221lbs
Excited for next week, will have a new plan for when the off season starts. Really looking forwards to being able to correct flaws and improve weak points— which lets be honest, I have many that need work.
Got my first set of posing trunks. One of my goals will be to add 15lbs muscle and still fit into this medium at 232 lbs for competition.
I have also asked my coach to delineate what I need to impeove in order of importance so that I can keep clear goals and have a mindset where I am paying attention to the process in a way where I will get the desired outcomes (improving where I need to improve, in different degrees)
In terms of bodybuilding as a feasible financial opportunity, this week i started doing some work in fitness industry in America, doing some exhibitions with a machine manufacturer and will start planning on working at expos when I visit the states and will be able to go to the biggest one in my hometown in January, among others. so— I am excited to be more active in this way. Will really help to pave a way to focus more on bodybuilding or at least have more means to provide for my family rather than having to sacrifice financially for body building.
Excited for next week, will have a new plan for when the off season starts. Really looking forwards to being able to correct flaws and improve weak points— which lets be honest, I have many that need work.
Got my first set of posing trunks. One of my goals will be to add 15lbs muscle and still fit into this medium at 232 lbs for competition.
I have also asked my coach to delineate what I need to impeove in order of importance so that I can keep clear goals and have a mindset where I am paying attention to the process in a way where I will get the desired outcomes (improving where I need to improve, in different degrees)
In terms of bodybuilding as a feasible financial opportunity, this week i started doing some work in fitness industry in America, doing some exhibitions with a machine manufacturer and will start planning on working at expos when I visit the states and will be able to go to the biggest one in my hometown in January, among others. so— I am excited to be more active in this way. Will really help to pave a way to focus more on bodybuilding or at least have more means to provide for my family rather than having to sacrifice financially for body building.
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Slowww
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Will be on L (quad focus) pull push, L (hamstring focus), U+ abs and calves EOD, for split.
Physique is reasonably balanced so we will just keep same balance and continue to add size.
Will be able to have a couple of moderate cheat meals since Im in America and won’t be back for a while. Gonna have a bit of Mexican food, maybe some Japanese food and a burger
Physique is reasonably balanced so we will just keep same balance and continue to add size.
Will be able to have a couple of moderate cheat meals since Im in America and won’t be back for a while. Gonna have a bit of Mexican food, maybe some Japanese food and a burger
Slowww
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Back tightened up
Fasted, no pump
100.3kg/221lbs
Fasted, no pump
100.3kg/221lbs
HeatherSwanson
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Its good for them, whenever I get hit on or groped (old ladies are the worst) she throws a fucking on me lol
Matty_G
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Just caught up on this thread. Good shit man, following!
Slowww
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Thanks man I appreciate it! Do you have a log here as well?
Matty_G
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Not yet, looking to start one during winter blast!
Slowww
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Off season starting now, little bump to carbs, and completely new number of meals (5 + intra as opposed to 6 + intra).
fasted 101kg/223lbs
Could not flex hamstring after my new lower body day the night before LOL
I was given 3 free meals to wrap up my trip to America, and so I had one with my grandmother & father, one with my mom and sister, and one with my wife and daughter. 2 of the meals were just Latin American food with my family so basically just protein rice and beans this was one cheat meal for example. I haven’t been able to eat good Latin food in a while which is hard for me as this is basically what I grew up eating. Like comfort food for me.
One of my cheat meals was just Peruvian chicken and rice, with 2 cookies (these cookies are small but have approximately 30g carbs in each one)
Lastly I had a double burger with chili fries, a hotdog (on kings Hawaiian rolls, so very high carbs) and a rice pudding my lovely 98 year old grandma made. Absolutely the best way to end a cut was with some of grandmas rice pudding.
my weight went up 2lbs, so nothing crazy. Just some water. Condition is just the same.
Cardio lowered to 30m 6 days per week. Steps also lowered. I was getting close to 12k recently but we are taking them down to 8 minimum.
Will not be doing protein powder until we get a bit further down the line since Im very hungry, but I am reincorporating pasta, which I basically had totally removed in the cut, but it becomes a staple during my off season. My carb sources at breakfast, preworkout/post are now several carbs and I really prefer this from a palatability point of view. I do very well with breads so this is good to start at the beginning of the growing phase so I can get my gut biome really dialed in and adjusted before we start to push the food hard.
Fats are still a changing variable. We know digestively I do poorly on rest days with too much fat during carb cycles so fats are very low on rest days, and low on training days. But we have slightly more fat on training days and I think this will be good for my energy during training sessions.
I also learned that I really do well with carbs even on rest days in terms of performance, so I’m expecting my strength will return much quicker than before. This is important because man it really fell while getting lean enough to get striated glutes hahaha.
This off season though Im really going to pay much much more attention to tempo. Im not getting any younger and while I still care about strength I care less and less about the weight on the bar itself. The more I hear about guys cutting careers short, injuries over time and wear and tear from lifting really heavy it makes me want to curb this. What do I get out of overhead pressing 4 plates? Nothing, who cares? And how about hack squat over 340kg/750lbs really it doesn’t matter at all, my legs still aren’t where they need to be so what is the point of that kind of stress on my knees. I just listened to a podcast with Jean Pierre Fux discussing his injury and regrets in body building and you know I’ve had so many warnings about this kind of thing including from my coach that I really feel like I finally have taken it as a necessity wholeheartedly.
So Im going to start logging weights again this week, but on a lot of movements I think I’m going to turn the load way down and be consistent so I can see how it goes this year.
fasted 101kg/223lbs
Could not flex hamstring after my new lower body day the night before LOL
I was given 3 free meals to wrap up my trip to America, and so I had one with my grandmother & father, one with my mom and sister, and one with my wife and daughter. 2 of the meals were just Latin American food with my family so basically just protein rice and beans this was one cheat meal for example. I haven’t been able to eat good Latin food in a while which is hard for me as this is basically what I grew up eating. Like comfort food for me.
One of my cheat meals was just Peruvian chicken and rice, with 2 cookies (these cookies are small but have approximately 30g carbs in each one)
Lastly I had a double burger with chili fries, a hotdog (on kings Hawaiian rolls, so very high carbs) and a rice pudding my lovely 98 year old grandma made. Absolutely the best way to end a cut was with some of grandmas rice pudding.
my weight went up 2lbs, so nothing crazy. Just some water. Condition is just the same.
Cardio lowered to 30m 6 days per week. Steps also lowered. I was getting close to 12k recently but we are taking them down to 8 minimum.
Will not be doing protein powder until we get a bit further down the line since Im very hungry, but I am reincorporating pasta, which I basically had totally removed in the cut, but it becomes a staple during my off season. My carb sources at breakfast, preworkout/post are now several carbs and I really prefer this from a palatability point of view. I do very well with breads so this is good to start at the beginning of the growing phase so I can get my gut biome really dialed in and adjusted before we start to push the food hard.
Fats are still a changing variable. We know digestively I do poorly on rest days with too much fat during carb cycles so fats are very low on rest days, and low on training days. But we have slightly more fat on training days and I think this will be good for my energy during training sessions.
I also learned that I really do well with carbs even on rest days in terms of performance, so I’m expecting my strength will return much quicker than before. This is important because man it really fell while getting lean enough to get striated glutes hahaha.
This off season though Im really going to pay much much more attention to tempo. Im not getting any younger and while I still care about strength I care less and less about the weight on the bar itself. The more I hear about guys cutting careers short, injuries over time and wear and tear from lifting really heavy it makes me want to curb this. What do I get out of overhead pressing 4 plates? Nothing, who cares? And how about hack squat over 340kg/750lbs really it doesn’t matter at all, my legs still aren’t where they need to be so what is the point of that kind of stress on my knees. I just listened to a podcast with Jean Pierre Fux discussing his injury and regrets in body building and you know I’ve had so many warnings about this kind of thing including from my coach that I really feel like I finally have taken it as a necessity wholeheartedly.
So Im going to start logging weights again this week, but on a lot of movements I think I’m going to turn the load way down and be consistent so I can see how it goes this year.
Slowww
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After flight and first day on new diet I am now at 105kg/231lbs
After 14 hour on plane— total of 18-20 hours traveling then food and first gym session at usual place
PUSH— starting loads are conservative and tempo is high.
Seated Machine laterals RAMP 12
From 5 to 15 + partials
Incline smith (tempo)
1x7 120kg
1x12 80kg + dropset 8 60kg
Slight incline DB press
1x10 40kg per hand
1x8 40kg per hand
1x15 27.5kg
Superset
Star trac seated Cable
flies + stretch press
4plates
3x15. + 3x8
Seated DB lateral raises
3x12 12.5kg
1x22 7.5kg
4 series giant set
Cable
push down 2x25 17.5kg
Overhead extension 2x16 17.5kg
Flat bar
Underhand 2x21 17.5kg
Overhand 2x15 17.5kg
- will work with these loads until I reach 100 reps in the giant set
Seated barbell French press (mi40)
RAMP 12 to 30kg
After 14 hour on plane— total of 18-20 hours traveling then food and first gym session at usual place
PUSH— starting loads are conservative and tempo is high.
Seated Machine laterals RAMP 12
From 5 to 15 + partials
Incline smith (tempo)
1x7 120kg
1x12 80kg + dropset 8 60kg
Slight incline DB press
1x10 40kg per hand
1x8 40kg per hand
1x15 27.5kg
Superset
Star trac seated Cable
flies + stretch press
4plates
3x15. + 3x8
Seated DB lateral raises
3x12 12.5kg
1x22 7.5kg
4 series giant set
Cable
push down 2x25 17.5kg
Overhead extension 2x16 17.5kg
Flat bar
Underhand 2x21 17.5kg
Overhand 2x15 17.5kg
- will work with these loads until I reach 100 reps in the giant set
Seated barbell French press (mi40)
RAMP 12 to 30kg
Slowww
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Alright so got some big news, found a sponsor for my competitions next year. The first show will be in the town that I live but this means I will have tickets and so on paid for this country’s nationals or any future pro qualifiers should I place well enough in regionals. Placement and medals will also change financial reimbursement, and there is a higher vested interest in going for the pro card in classic now
Slowww
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So after two flights (1 home and 1 to another city for some shoots with a sponsor) I had a pretty serious Edema again. I was sitting for a very long time, and so I tried to address the edema. I was able to basically flush all the water with some lasix and 80 minutes massage. The massage had an insane effect on the edema. I went from bloated watery ever, no veins or anything to hard grainy and veiny all over within an hour. Need to remember this for when I am traveling. Lasix in the am and afternoon followed by somewhat aggressive massage! Crazy
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