Lowest effective trenbolone dose.

[anabolicperro]

been on 200 mg for a few weeks
strated at 100 mg only got a bit moody when upped the dose.
currently feeling well no mood swings. However, sleep reduced to 6 hours and night sweets are crazy, definitely BP raised . haven't noticed any impact in my cardio. seeing results on a calorie deficit.

 

[Nidus]

been on 200 mg for a few weeks
strated at 100 mg only got a bit moody when upped the dose.
currently feeling well no mood swings. However, sleep reduced to 6 hours and night sweets are crazy, definitely BP raised . haven't noticed any impact in my cardio. seeing results on a calorie deficit.

Its been 5 days for me so far on 70mg weekly: Bloodpressure slightly elevated, sleep is down to 6-7 hours maximum too

Will up the Telmisartarn from 20 to 40 and introduce time released melatonin
Weight also went up a little, will reduce HGH from 3 to 2 ius and see if that helps (feel like its mostly if not entirely just water retention)

I do daily 30 minutes of Cardio, its a bit more difficult than usual but i could imagine this is because of the bad sleep of the first 3-4 days

No other negative effects

Muscles, especially legs feel fuller, compared to 25mg Anavar taken 3x daily to me

 

[initialize]

2 weeks in on Tren E, 150mg/week and I don't feel much yet. I'm probably impatient lol but should I increase the dose to 200?

 

[Nidus]

2 weeks in on Tren E, 150mg/week and I don't feel much yet. I'm probably impatient lol but should I increase the dose to 200?

No, dont. Wait, once it kicks in you will feel it, especially when this is your first time

 

[Psychokoak]

Très bonne philosophie. Je pense que la plupart des gars pourraient obtenir le physique qu'ils souhaitent avec 1 g de Test + une IA si nécessaire.

I fucking agree with that. Add some primo for the richest and it is more than sufficient (I have a lot of success in my personal case)

And certainly healthier in the long term

 

[jJjburton]

You are not going to feel anything from 140 mg a week. Its all mental. It will help a small amount. I ran 700 mg a week and it is managable, for 8 weeks. Especially if pinning ED. You will get some effects in gym but running 70 mg a week?? Its not a nuclear bomb

 

[initialize]

You are not going to feel anything from 140 mg a week. Its all mental. It will help a small amount. I ran 700 mg a week and it is managable, for 8 weeks. Especially if pinning ED. You will get some effects in gym but running 70 mg a week?? Its not a nuclear bomb

... so you're saying I should bump it to 200?

 

[bighunanballs]

A lot a folks feel like the sides are the positive effects, They're not. Running it low is just fine. We ran this shit at 150/week 20 years ago and it was always plenty. Some ppl can handle heavy tren doses. Tren e is tough to dose since it takes weeks to feel it's full affects. Just run it at 150 for your first cycle and see how it goes.

 

[DECLAN]

Everyone is really different. I could tolerate the nightsweats and insomnia but the bump in heartrate is what scares me. Mine gets up to 100bpm on the first 3 weeks even at low dose of 75mg per week. It settles down to 80-85 even with metropolol.

That’s why I don’t use it nowadays.

 

[lukiss96]

For me tren is not some crazy steroid that makes me a lunatic or something, but it's once I'm done with it and drop it for a week (depending on the ester), I then realize it was somehow still fucking my shit up no matter how much I tried to control it. I stay away from such compounds now. Better to feel good while doing it.

 

[russb]

2 weeks in on Tren E, 150mg/week and I don't feel much yet. I'm probably impatient lol but should I increase the dose to 200?

No leave as is I ran Tren E 100mg once per week. Taking the ester weight into consideration and the slight underdosage from test report I was getting around 69mg per week. I gained nicely.

As always results are determined by diet.

You won't feel much till around wk4. I believe the general consensus is half life x4 is rough time of which you feel a noticeable difference.

If anyone else has any input I'll stand corrected.

 

[ksm2]

I then realize it was somehow still fucking my shit up no matter how much I tried to control it.

In what sense? Does it make you more impulsive? Do you say mean things to people you usually wouldn't say?

I want to get a better idea what to expect.

 

[lukiss96]

In what sense? Does it make you more impulsive? Do you say mean things to people you usually wouldn't say?

I want to get a better idea what to expect.

Yes, but that can be attributed to many androgens at high enough dose.

What I don't like on tren is the way I feel. Like on a mission, zero emotions, just my goals and kinda like an animal just train, eat and sleep and well battle sides too. For me now to feel good is much more important than it used to be. I want to enjoy life while using steroids, not for them to consume me more than necessary.

 

[nightprowler7]

If i could find a way to control the tren rage, I could tolerate the other sides like.... sweating, insomnia, gay thoughts, heart burn, paranoia.

I'm experimenting with higher mast lower tren. So 700wk mast p, and 175 tren a

God I love tren though.

 

[Nidus]

Honestly, the first few days were awful for me with insomnia and sweating, now i dont feel anything and its been the first night with really good sleep for me, again only at 70mgs a week but muscle feels much fuller

 

[HughJass]

Gonna give it a shot again here in about 10 days with Tren A running it at 30mg everyday. ( i know I am lying to myself and will prob up it back up to 50mg everyday. )

 

[OmL]

The dosage for catttle is 0.07mg per KG.

So 7mg a week if you’re 100kg.

 

[lukiss96]

The dosage for catttle is 0.07mg per KG.

So 7mg a week if you’re 100kg.

I think more appliable for humans would be this:

Pharmacological and endocrinological studies on anabolic agents - PubMed

When used in connection with animal production the term "anabolic agents" covers a wide range. Ther steroidal male and female sex hormones are included in this list, as are the nonsteroidal estrogens. For the clinician and for the endocrinologist, anabolics are only steroids chemically related...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And also there is some old study I believe where they tested 76mg every 7 or 10 days on humans, it was hex.

So more like 5-7mg daily =35 or 50mg weekly for humans.

Anyway, if I were to do tren for the first time again I'd would still probably use 100mg/week of acetate and probably end up at 200mg/week if I tolerate it well.

Having said that, I know that for me the effective dose was 100-300mg weekly, I say was because it was 2 years ago since I last touched tren.

 

[OmL]

I think more appliable for humans would be this:

Pharmacological and endocrinological studies on anabolic agents - PubMed

When used in connection with animal production the term "anabolic agents" covers a wide range. Ther steroidal male and female sex hormones are included in this list, as are the nonsteroidal estrogens. For the clinician and for the endocrinologist, anabolics are only steroids chemically related...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And also there is some old study I believe where they tested 76mg every 7 or 10 days on humans, it was hex.

So more like 5-7mg daily =35 or 50mg weekly for humans.

Anyway, if I were to do tren for the first time again I'd would still probably use 100mg/week of acetate and probably end up at 200mg/week if I tolerate it well.

Having said that, I know that for me the effective dose was 100-300mg weekly, I say was because it was 2 years ago since I last touched tren.

Yeah parabolan was dosed at 76.6mg per week. But they dropped it for a reason I’m sure.

 

[lukiss96]

Yeah parabolan was dosed at 76.6mg per week. But they dropped it for a reason I’m sure.

I guess so, it wasn't sustainable for long term human use.